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Feeling Nostalgic

Would be nice to have Alliance bring back the aerated fill.
I always loved that when using a solid tub machine...

Malcolm
 
Aerated Fill

It's like on your kitchen sink with that little screen that forces air into the water stream. Rather 'oxygenates' it...SQ used to advertise that in their brochures (found in the ephemera section)
 
More thoughts on the new Speed Queen Toploader

Immediately before leaving for Amsterdam, I watch seven videos of this new machine washing at a training meeting for the sales people.

The lid locks after five minutes.

Even though the motor is rated at 1 hp it’s half the size and weight and cost to manufacture as the previous 1/2 hp motor.

I do believe this machine is a big improvement in durability and serviceability but I do not think it will turn over laundry well at all, in the videos there is almost no clothing turn over, I predict it will have real problems large loads of really dirty clothing.

Good news is it will be much more gentle on clothing.

The new styleling looks really good, the machine looks much more expensive and the knobs don’t look cheap.
 
Interesting, was there alot of water movement? They did say move water through clothes and not clothes through water, definately no pilling on clothes like a front loader does, the frigidaire immersion care looked horrible in the training video i saw on youtube but when it came out it looked like it moved clothes pretty good, alot better than say a cabrio.
 
Other than dumbing down their product to save money, I see absolutely no point in what they are doing. Their current wash system works perfectly and it is not rough on clothes; especially since they've introduced flex vane agitators. As for durability, these machines are already durable. What they have is perfect and exactly what people, who want a traditional automatic agitator washer, are looking for. A moving center post agitator washes and circulates clothes far more effectively than an agitub; especially heavy and bulky items. With this new agitub design I can't see how the rather puny looking agitator creates enough toroidal water currents to move clothes around.

The only improvement for me would have been in allowing users more freedom to pick and combine different cycle options for greater flexibility.

If the new design turns out a dud, how likely would Speed Queen revert back to its current wash system?
 
Rather Than Wild Guessing

why not just wait and see? Obviously no one here was involved in the planning, engineering or design.
 
So John Combo52...are the 2.5 rotations set ? Or can it oscillate more revolutions depending on load size? I would think it would need to to get the rollover.

Once again time will tell.
 
It will be very interesting to see what this new machine is like and watch as it washes a load of clothes. This final year of speed queen washers really does put an end to traditional top loading washing machines as we know them. We shall see what the future holds in store...
 
I thought Speed Queen was in a 'class all by their selves'...I believed they would be the last and only brand to keep traditional washers in the market but, they're jumping on the bandwagon of 'revolution-stroke---agitub' design washers as well. This (2018) agitator look very similar to their 80's high straight vane agitator except the vanes (extend outward more at the base)...they should have kept the base vanes as thin as the straights...an even better idea would be if they stayed with the 'FLEX-VANES' design for this 2018 new agitator...I think the flex-vane 'slits' would help the rolling water currents a little more for this agitub design...this is it...it's over...good bye TRADISH-agita-washers
 
scrubflex

Did you sit down and cry when the last wringer washers were made over here? Did you go into mourning when Bendix and Westinghouse stopped making their front loaders? Get over it--why not have a little trust in the people who make their living from designing and building these machines? My God, so many of you are so damned pessimistic, I'm glad I don't have to live with you...
 
New 2018 Speed Queen TL Washers

Hi guys, I have seen six videos of this washer running there is no rollover, the agitator is there essentially just to make it look like the old machine.

First the good news because I don’t like to be too negative, it will be gentler on the clothing it spins better and it should be incredibly reliable and easier to repair.

This new Washer will actually take Speed Queen upscale in the market quite a bit, most of the complaints we get about the current Toploader have to do with noise and excessive clothing wear. Bad news is it won’t clean really dirty clothing like their current machine so it will lose acceptance with farmers in auto mechanics and such. The other bad news unless you use it on eco-normal this machine uses way too much water for what it’s doing.

Remember for the time being you can still get a 24 or 27”WP TT with real cast iron transmission and agitation to match. I would not have though WP would be the last to build a traditional washer for home use.

John L.
 
So Speed Queen is making a top load machine that can't clean really dirty clothes? This is ridiculous. Unbelievable! What's the point? John if your account is accurate then whatever hope I had for these is pretty much dried up.

No doubt this is the goal of these government regulations is to get us off agitator washers and onto FL washers.
 
A different way of washing.............

why would you expect turnover? The machine is obviously not designed to turn clothing over but to move the clothing back and forth through the water and I am assuming that the fixed agitator assists in this. SQ said they wanted to move more water through the clothes. Essentially that is what is happening with this design, not turnover.
MIKE
 
well in reality, this is the new 'Dependable Care' so the speak....

as JohnL stated, it will be reliable and easy to work on......sounds like a Maytag to me...

people bought Maytags because they were dependable, not because of their washing action...they were designed to 'give in' to the load, and not put any stress on the machine....

why do you think it only operated with the lid closed?...so you could not see what was going on inside...

and just like a Maytag, people will have to adapt to under loading to get the best results....

and as most people today, are just going to load and go....their not going to give any more thought to it....

Alliance, like any company wanting to survive into the future, will have to adapt to the future...

but as so many have said....this is a free enterprise nation, you are welcome to open your own factory and build whatever machine you choose....and see how far you get doing it your own way....
 
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