New: Bosch 4D Vortex wash System, 10 KG, 1600 Spin Washing Machine

[glenfieldmathk1]

Hi all,
I thought the time is right to reveal my Brand New washing machine!
After 7 years of my old Hotpoint, I have finally got round to upgrading, and I have chosen a Top of the Range 10KG, 1600 Spin Bosch washing Machine.
Here in the UK its called Serie | 8 (but its actually the Home professional range in other markets).
So far I've used a few cycles, and it seems really great! There's the rather cool 4D jet with Vortex style wash, and distributions throughout.
The 10 KG drum is massive. I haven't even been able to fill it to even half yet!!!
The machine holds the Final spin at 1600 for 5 Minutes too, washing is so much drier than inside the old Hotpoint. And despite this one having the faster 1600 spin speed. The noise is significantly reduced compared to the old Hotpoint (which was a supposed "Super silent" wash).

I have attached some pictures below of the new machine and also some videos of it! I'd appreciate you all taking a little look, and of course subscribing to my youtube channel! There are videos of the 4D which spends different times on in different cycles! (The 4D doesn't seem to come on if washing of 70C or above).
I've also made a video showing the ASR menu. There currently wasn't a video on youtube of this, set to each programme. So now, Finally you can all see the duration of each stain selection accross each selected programme!

The Hotpoint has been sold, so there is also some pictures of it being cleaned and removed!

Thanks all for reading, and I look forward to reading your comments!

Vids (details in the descriptions of the videos on youtube!):
Unboxing, Installation and Drum Cleaning:
Programme overview & Main menu:
Stains Overview:
4D Wash Rhythm (mini clip):

(more videos further down forum)

Pictures:

 

[glenfieldmathk1]

Extra Videos

Mixed Load 60C Cycle:
New cycle. Previously they only allowed upto 40C on the Mixed load!
Includes a little vortex phase, and short 1600 Final Spin!

Part 1:


Part 2:


Part 3:


Mini clip: Mixed Load Speed Perfect: 45 Minute quick wash, with a short 1600 Final Spin, and jet washing throughout!

 

[glenfieldmathk1]

Videos:

Cottons cycles:

Cottons 60 Cycle with Chocolate stain selected.
This includes the main part of the 1600 spin cycle (which holds at 1600 for 5 minutes! Achieving brilliant spin dry results!).


Towels cycle set to 70C:
(at 70C and above it doesn't do the Vortex) The Towels programme has a special extended fluffing spin, which helps draw up the water from the towels, bringing it to the surface! very clever!


Super 15':
Very short express programme, for washing mini loads of cottons quickly (still does a vortex! Taking only 15 minutes). New: now allows Extra rinse of upto 3 extra!


More videos on Youtube!
Mat,
Glenfieldmathk1

 

[logixx]

For months I have been searching for these... and this week three of them have suddenly popped up on YouTube channels. Thanks for sharing (though I'll have to watch them later).

 

[henene4]

If they would give me a reversing dryer I would be finally really considering these.

Wouldn't go iDos though, ActiveOxygen and Siemens would be more my style.

Nice to see them adding a weight based load sensing system ontop of their absorbency based system plus a recirculation (and verry Well amed and verry quiet one at that) all at once.

Do you know by any chance how much the time Drops when the Cotton cycle senses down?

 

[chachp]

Reversing Dryer

 

<span style="font-family: helvetica;">In 2002 I bought a Bosch Axxis set.  It had a reversing dryer which I really liked but the damn thing was noisy.  It was in a utility room off the kitchen and you could hear it in the family room.</span>

 

[glenfieldmathk1]

Hi Guys, Thanks for your comments.
The lack of reversing dryer is sort of making me hold off buying the matching dryer (for now at least!.. The matching dryer having the new Complete self clean).
As mentioned above, the old Bosch did reverse, so i really cant see why these new ones can't.

The washer itself is great, and no this isn't an iDos one! The UK is due to get a TOL with iDos soon, but its been delayed by the Pandemic. Its a shame we don't get the Active oxygen here or I would of chosen it! TBH.. I prefer the one without iDos, as I use powder more anyway, and I don't really see the point in the Auto cycles (which apparently aren't great). Mines got Towels instead which would get more use by us than an Auto / Soft for example!

Thanks Logixx, Its nice to see you're still here, I haven't really been on here in ages! Yes i too noticed quite a few of these have all started to appear on youtube! Before there was none, only the previous ranges. I guess now people are uploading them, we might see more collectors go for them, as the jet itself is pretty impressive for a Bosch! Still got the classic door fill jet too!

Thanks Henene as well, Some good points you raise. The load sensor as you add the laundry does adjust the estimated time! During the wash the timer regularly updates, not just after 10 minutes.. The Load of whites I washed in the video above on cottons was a whole hour shorter than the original estimate. It dropped off 20 minutes during load adjust. It dropped off some more time mid way through the wash, and then it deleted a rinse cycle, as they still have Aqua Sensor (although no longer appears on the display). The other thing I've noticed on cottons, if the load is only half full the final spin gets upto 1600 quicker and holds there for 5 minutes. With a bigger load, the final spin is longer, and each stage before 1600 is held longer - with 1600 being reached and still held for 5 minutes! Speed perfect now also seems to do the full cottons final spin rather than a short one!

 

[henene4]

That's really great to hear

Now I want one.

The older machines were kind of meh always in my opinion. Load sensing didn't drop time much.
And redults were good, but nothing special.

 

[logixx]

Off topic

I just realized that YouTube automatically puts the chapters /timestamps you put in the description in the video's timeline as well.

 

[rolls_rapide]

It has a sealed tub...!

Bosch lists it as Item: 0308 - 'Oscillating System Complete'.

Scroll through the exploded diagrams to '5/5'.

Service Page | Bosch UK

Discover more information about your Bosch appliance.

www.bosch-home.co.uk

 

[appnut]

Mat, thank you for all the videos.  I've just looked at the first 2 or 3.  I still get so darn jealous of all the flexibility and command of specific temperatures rather than word descriptions with no real idea of what cool, warm, hot and extra hot mean on our front loaders here.  Love the intense recirculating spray.  The Whirlpool/Maytag are quite anemic in comparison and even the LG Turbowash spray during wash & rinse. I look forward to viewing all the videos over the next day or two.    Sad to know in reality, most Americans wouldn't know how to deal with such choices and being able to be ore specific in temperatures and spin speeds.  But I wonder if bosch will present an Americanized version of these some day.  

 

[gelaundry4ever]

cottons

What is the default setting for the cottons cycle? I'd like to see how it would perform with the jets active. I'm sure this washer would give lg a run for their money on the comparable cotton/normal cycle.

 

[glenfieldmathk1]

Thanks Logixx.. Yes New Youtube feature that I tried out! I know most people skip through videos, so this allows people to fast forward, yet still catch the stages they want to see!!

Rolls_Rapide.. I believe pretty much everything on the market these days except for Miele and Ebac have sealed tubs. Its the "norm" now unfortunately! Its got a 2 year warranty. We will extend this with their service plan afterwards, so nothing to worry about there. I'm sure with Siemens versions having 5 year Warranty.. its got to be OK! Of course, its a little annoying.

Thanks Appnut.. Yes so far the Jet is great. I added a new video to Youtube showing the Towels programme set to 60C - which also uses the jet too (my video above its on 70C so doesn't use the jet!). I've seen the LG's too, was considering one tbh.. they have 4 jets. But as far as I am aware they don't do the vortex spin with jet on like this Bosch does!

GELaundry4Ever.. I sent you a reply on Youtube!
The cottons wash takes between 2hr30 and 3hr45 depending on load size, and settings (and upto 5hr45 with some stains!) - A video premieres later today on Youtube of the cottons wash including jet action!

Thanks everyone so far for your great comments

 

[glenfieldmathk1]

Towels Programme with jet

60C jet action on the Towels cycle. (about 3/4 full of towels)
Uses plenty of water! The jet really helps give such splash! Very Deep cooldown level.

 

[rolls_rapide]

Sealed tubs...

That's the whole point... the German ones, i.e. your model, have a sealed tub. Your's will have been one of the most expensive models.

Don't get me wrong, I hope your machine lasts a long time with no hassles, but I just wish manufacturers 'would come clean' and be a bit more forthcoming with information and repairability in the first place.

My mum has one of the recent Polish built ones, at half the price, (I think it is a Series 4, with the all-metal drum... 1400rpm) the metal lifter paddles are an inherent part of the drum, not detachable plastic ones.

The tub in that one is splittable, with front half, rear half (with bearings in situ), drum with attached spider/shaft, tub seal and screws, and shaft seal all available.

Diagram 3/5.

Service Page | Bosch UK

Discover more information about your Bosch appliance.

www.bosch-home.co.uk

 

[gelaundry4ever]

cycle preset

Does this machine have a cycle preset? On my lg and Kenmore elite, I use the normal cycle. it defaults to warm, high speed spin, and normal level of soil with accelawash/turbowash.

 

[glenfieldmathk1]

Cycle preset

When you turn the machine on it sets to Cotton (Normal) at 40C, 1600spin, no options.

Each programme you select automatically chooses a default temperature and spin speed, You can still adjust the programme further (a few examples are shown below):
Cottons 40, 1600 (Max 90, Max 1600)
Eco 40, 1600 (Max 90, Max 1600)
Easy Care 40, 1200 (Max 60, Max 1200)
Mixed 40, 1400 (Max 60, Max 1600)
Delicates, silk 30, 800 (Max 40, Max 800)
Towels 60, 1200 (Max 90, Max 1600)
Duvet 40, 1000 (Max 60, Max 1200)
Allergy + 60, 1600 (Max 60, Max 1600)
Shirts 40, 800 (Max 60, Max 800 - or - Max 400 with Easy Iron option)
etc.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

thanks for the cycle info

Thanks for the cycle info. I'd love to see how the default cottons cycle performs. Do the jets come on automatically, or can you add that option?

 

[glenfieldmathk1]

Default Cottons

I've just uploaded these videos showing the cottons with a bigger load.

Load detection:


Main Wash:


I've also added many other videos, see my Youtube Channel for those:

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