So I had some free time today so I went to my nearby Warner's Stellian Appliances and took a look at the new Commercial MT VMW. Here are the PICS I took. Sorry my finger got in the way of 2.
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New Commercial MT washer pics.
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Thanks for posting those images. Very interesting.
Thanks WK78. I didn't get a chance to see the Maytag matching dryer when I visited the appliance store Friday . Pretty nice.
If I didn't have the Speed Queen and I was looking for a washer this would be on my very short list. I honestly think the wash action is even better than a speed queen...but will it be as reliable?
BTW KM78.. What did you think of the build of the Maytag?
If I didn't have the Speed Queen and I was looking for a washer this would be on my very short list. I honestly think the wash action is even better than a speed queen...but will it be as reliable?
BTW KM78.. What did you think of the build of the Maytag?
RE, Build of the MT
Whirlpool has definitely taken notice of Alliance's success in building a solid TL AW. The new MT is a much more robust, better washing version of the VMW platform and the first VMW I would not pass off as a flimsy piece of shit. Still it is NO SPEED QUEEN! Just as the SQ is no Whirlpool DD.
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Whirlpool has definitely taken notice of Alliance's success in building a solid TL AW. The new MT is a much more robust, better washing version of the VMW platform and the first VMW I would not pass off as a flimsy piece of shit. Still it is NO SPEED QUEEN! Just as the SQ is no Whirlpool DD.
WK78
Good answer. I agree. However I do think that this Maytag's wash action makes speed queen claim to fame with their 210 degree agitation stroke rather redundant now.
Having a speed queen almost 5 years now.. and don't get me wrong I like the nostalgia factor of the machine and it's wash action and belt drive noises, but if I had a choice of this or a DD Kenmore, I would have gotten another Kenmore.
My DD Kenmore was much more flexible with wash and spin speeds and water Temps. I had a choice of warm rinse on my 2003 Kenmore DD washer.It was also a better rinser
than the SQ.
One thing the Speed Queen has that is superior and that is their suspension system----second to none.
Having a speed queen almost 5 years now.. and don't get me wrong I like the nostalgia factor of the machine and it's wash action and belt drive noises, but if I had a choice of this or a DD Kenmore, I would have gotten another Kenmore.
My DD Kenmore was much more flexible with wash and spin speeds and water Temps. I had a choice of warm rinse on my 2003 Kenmore DD washer.It was also a better rinser
than the SQ.
One thing the Speed Queen has that is superior and that is their suspension system----second to none.
Thanks for sharing the photos, Nick. To call the console utilitarian would be an understatement. Too bad there isn't a water level selector. Otherwise, it's a direct-and-to-the-point machine that offers a more traditional washer to a broader consumer base. Speed Queen still doesn't have as many dealers / outlets as Maytag.
This machine doesn't appear to have a way to correct an unbalanced load. It just goes into spin banging off the cabinet a few times and just goes for it.
This is the first washer on the VMW platform I have seen that doesn't stop and fill with water and redistribute the load. That's good. I really want to get one but I can't justify the expense as I already have a Speed Queen.
This is the first washer on the VMW platform I have seen that doesn't stop and fill with water and redistribute the load. That's good. I really want to get one but I can't justify the expense as I already have a Speed Queen.
Keep your Queen, as we all know that suspension system is like no other ever made. Dare I say better than Maytag Orbitals? Seriously, one thing that I have noticed is how much the tub vibrates during spin, but none of it seems to get transferred through the floor. On the previous DD I could feel that machine run through the entire first floor.
Huh. Interesting color combination ;-)
Even then I don't heat the cabinet rock.
My MVWC415EW does load sensing on all the cycles, Bulky cycle included. The difference is that on the Powerwash, Deep Water and Bulky cycles they will fill to a higher level, but not to the top automatically, they fill to the higher level required for the size of the load. I was very skeptical of the auto load sensing too, but my experience in a year of use is that this machine fills to the required level for every size load on every cycle, if this make any sense.
The few times I’ve used the Normal cycle it seemed to fill with an appropriate amount of water too. The best way I can discribe the water levels, is that it uses enough to get the load completly saturated, with about an inch or two water covering the load, unless Bulky is selected, that cycle fills to the highest level, if the machine senses its necessary, like if I’m washing two pillows, or a comforter that fills the basket.
If this new Maytag Commercial machine is using basically the same system as my Maytag I really don’t think that a water level control is necessary., I’ve come to trust that my machine will fill with enough water and I’ve not been dissapointed.
And, yes, there is no doubt that these washers use more water than a new FL, and they don’t conserve water like a new FL, but they aren’t nearly as water hungry as a traditonal TL either. They basically use about the same amount of water that an old time FL, like a Westinghouse would. I really love my Maytag, And if I want the same amount of water that a traditioanal TL would use I can get it on the Bulky cycle. Its really the best of both worlds.
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The few times I’ve used the Normal cycle it seemed to fill with an appropriate amount of water too. The best way I can discribe the water levels, is that it uses enough to get the load completly saturated, with about an inch or two water covering the load, unless Bulky is selected, that cycle fills to the highest level, if the machine senses its necessary, like if I’m washing two pillows, or a comforter that fills the basket.
If this new Maytag Commercial machine is using basically the same system as my Maytag I really don’t think that a water level control is necessary., I’ve come to trust that my machine will fill with enough water and I’ve not been dissapointed.
And, yes, there is no doubt that these washers use more water than a new FL, and they don’t conserve water like a new FL, but they aren’t nearly as water hungry as a traditonal TL either. They basically use about the same amount of water that an old time FL, like a Westinghouse would. I really love my Maytag, And if I want the same amount of water that a traditioanal TL would use I can get it on the Bulky cycle. Its really the best of both worlds.
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Probs fill time sensing
Might do fill time sensing. The more absorbent, the longer the fill takes, the higher it fills. Rough load estimats without "wasted" time sensing seperatly.
Might do fill time sensing. The more absorbent, the longer the fill takes, the higher it fills. Rough load estimats without "wasted" time sensing seperatly.
Patrick, it sounds like my machine, so I have a feeling that mechanically they are similar, with the Commercial machine having a 1/2 hp motor as opposed to the 1/3 hp motor in the home models. Mine doesn’t fill this much on Turbowash or Deep Water, the two cycles I use the most frequently, or on Normal. I would get a fill like this on the Bulky cycle. But the washing and rinsing performance doesn’t suffer from the slightly lower fill level.
The model in the videos probably fills more because it is geared to the commercial market.
I think that Maytag and Whirlpool are moving in the right direction with their TL lineup.
Eddie
The model in the videos probably fills more because it is geared to the commercial market.
I think that Maytag and Whirlpool are moving in the right direction with their TL lineup.
Eddie
I was going to ask, but according to the vids, this is not the case of load sensing, like my Cabrio...once the tub lifts, that is the point of enough water, and agitation begins...
as mentioned, yeah a water level control would be a needed option....if I wanted to wash a 1/2 load of delicates, I have no choice but to fill the tub full of water...even a simple 1/2 or FULL selection would be enough...
another feature needed......Soil Level.....not even a short/quick cycle
but sorry, for that price tag, and for what your getting, should be closer to half...
even the Cabrios had timed dispensers for all 3.....
but I guess we should be thankful they didn't toss in one of those Downy Ball's like they did the first time....
the biggest question is going to Longevity....
plus the matching dryer is 100.00 more than the washer?...WTH?....it is nothing more than this one on sale at HomeDepot for 399.00....I ask you, whats inside that dryer that cost 500.00 more?
as mentioned, yeah a water level control would be a needed option....if I wanted to wash a 1/2 load of delicates, I have no choice but to fill the tub full of water...even a simple 1/2 or FULL selection would be enough...
another feature needed......Soil Level.....not even a short/quick cycle
but sorry, for that price tag, and for what your getting, should be closer to half...
even the Cabrios had timed dispensers for all 3.....
but I guess we should be thankful they didn't toss in one of those Downy Ball's like they did the first time....
the biggest question is going to Longevity....
plus the matching dryer is 100.00 more than the washer?...WTH?....it is nothing more than this one on sale at HomeDepot for 399.00....I ask you, whats inside that dryer that cost 500.00 more?
Since when do dryers cost as much or more than a washer ? Crazy. Been seeing this trend since the introduction of the cabrios.
I have doubts though that this Maytag will influence the rest of the Whirlpool line of washers. It's only one model for the home---they need several models with options others have mentioned. Could you imagine ! A beefed up VMW and agitation that will put the new SQ washers to shame if early reports are accurate..
I have doubts though that this Maytag will influence the rest of the Whirlpool line of washers. It's only one model for the home---they need several models with options others have mentioned. Could you imagine ! A beefed up VMW and agitation that will put the new SQ washers to shame if early reports are accurate..
