I assume Lock must be control lock and not an indicator that the door is locked.
What is extended refresh? Strange verbiage for 'we toss the finished clothes about every now and again until you get off the couch and move them to the dryer'
My series 60 Elux has a Sanitize cycle and separate Sanitize temp setting (154 F I believe). Sanitize as a temp setting is available on some of the cycles other than Sanitize: Allergen, for example, allows you to select Hot or Sanitize as the temperature. On the actual Sanitize cycle, one must select the Sanitize temp. I discovered this when playing around with the options before running an Allergen cycle, which I find is the best cycle for pet dander. Sanitize as a temp is also available on the Fast Sanitize cycle, which is a Specialty Cycle (not listed on the dial; push "specialty cycle" and control knob will scroll through these extra cycles).
Scroll to page 19 to see which options are allowed on a given cycle.
I would definitely be interested in these Lux machines, but I bought the 60 series in late 2014 and plan to keep them until they fail mechanically and are too expensive to be fixed. Earlier in this thread, I mentioned a rebate, which was from some national association of independent retailers and not from Electrolux itself (unless Elux was laundering the money). Given that the rebate was being offered 18 months before the Lux rollout, and actually ended Nov 30, 2014, I doubt that it was a ploy to sell off all the 50/55/60/70 inventory, since if they'd cleared out all the old machines, there would be nothing to sell for over a year.
My original Frig 2140 FL/dryer are still going strong over at my neighbor's, and they will be ten years old in March. My neighbor's old TL broke down, he was between jobs, so I gave him my existing pair and bought the new Elux pair. The Frig pair has never had a repair or maintenance issue.
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I have seen the dryer with a white rear bulkhead and others with a stainless rear bulkhead. I wonder if certain big box stores will get the cheapened version with white while independent dealers get the stainless.
I wonder if other options may be missing from the BB versions too.
Why do you say that, Thomas?
Has Elux laid off its engineering staff?
Are they outsourcing design?
What do you know?
AFAIK, WP and GE still have armies of legit engineers and technicians.
Although, I do know that WP will farm out some eng. work to other design houses as well.
When HE front loaders first appeared and the water level did not go up the window, I did not believe they could clean. Through direct experience I have learned that, contrary to what I thought, the lower HE water level actually cleans better, counterintuitive as it might be. If the water is deep and up the window, the clothes only roll around in the water at the base of the tub. In an HE FL, the clothes are sopping wet, much more so than they appear while tumbling, and they fall and slap on the tub, which forces water and suds through the garment much more effectively than when the fall is softened by standing water in the old school FLs. It's the same washing principle as the tried and true centuries old method of repeatedly slapping a sopping wet and sudsy garment on a smooth stone. However, if there are too many suds, the clothes will not get clean because the excess suds break the fall and impede the flow of water through the fabric. Also, the new HE FLs do not tangle and ball clothes up because they alternate clock and counterclockwise rotation. Clothes tangled and twisted up will not get clean because all surfaces are no longer exposed. The new HE FLers are totally superior to the old school ones. Now that I've had an HE FL, I can see that people who complain about poor cleaning in their HE FL are using too much detergent and/or overloading.
I agree with everything you said. The ONLY thing I would change is the water level for rinses would be a wee bit more. I'm not sure why they are not but they seem to the exact same level as the low water wash (at least in my old Duet FLer) Ideally, it would be super lower water wash with concentrated detergent, with a slightly deeper rinse) in my mind at least. But I suppose multiple shallow rinses along with interim spins between rinses are just as good. I don't know.
Meant to say that. JMO, but the standard default 2 or 3 rinses are not enough. Need 2 or 3 more. At that point, the clothes are cleaner and better rinsed than in an old school TL. Never thought I'd say and think that!
I've often thought the FLs could rinse much better and with less water if they'd do a short or pulse spin, tumble (not spin) spray the clothes, pulse spin, etc., about 10 times in a row, and then provide one final rinse bath as an option for fabric softener users. In other words, it would rinse the clothes the same way we rinse out our washcloth in the shower. And it could be faster too, with better balancing technology than current.
I'm very happy with my SQ FL, but still, there's definitely a lot of room in which to design a more efficient and better HE FL washer than we currently have.
I'm preparing to purchase my first front loader and I'm considering either the newest TOL EFLS617S or the earlier model EIFLS60J which...as has been noted...is more expensive than the newer model. I understand that these newer Elux models have not been out long enough for customer reviews, but for those who are familiar with the earlier models and what appear to be changes in this newer model, I'm trying to figure out whether there are differences that might make the older model more appealing in spite of the higher price tag. I would prefer to have some control over water levels and temperatures...or are both models so fully automated that there is little control in either? Some have mentioned that the "Touch to open door" on the older model was a deal breaker. Has that bothered others? I would appreciate your thoughts as to whether the "feature changes" to the newer model make the older model a more attractive choice even though it is more expensive...or am I just beating this subject to death? Thanks.