New Fisher & Paykel washer and Dryer
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Burpalator
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I'm surprised no one has responded to you. If you look a little further in this forum, you will find a significant amount of recent discussion about F&P. I'm considering them myself but can't yet give you any first-hand information.
I had hoped DaDoES would have responded by now. He's had both the GW08 and the IW12 and has had very good luck with them. I have a Kenmore version of the Whirlpool the F&P is replacing. I used DaDoES' extensively at a December 05 Texas get-together. It puts the Whirlpool int he dust. If I were to buy a new top loader, this would be it. It uses less water and is gentler on clothes and has an awesome capacity when needed. I really like all the features and some of the LifeCycles. And the dryer, terrific. I love the auto-reversing. I"m only 5'8", almost couldn't reach the bottom of the dryer drum to get the last article.
I did respond, off-board via e-mail. Hopefully the listed address is valid. I figure everybody is tired by now of my constant yapping about F&P. 
irishwashguy
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About my friends F and P
I have a friend with five kids that I buy all of my soap from, they have a Fisher and Paykel. Granted at their house, it does get alot of use.I know that reciently they replaced the agitator because the fins broke off after three loads a day for about four years. She was not thrilled about that.It does have the 1000 Rpm spin which is nice.One of the salesment did an exparament to see which one would get more water out with the 1000 rpm spin--the Bosch axess or the F and P. it was amazing to me, but the Bosch was the winner hands down, from what they told me. When I was looking at remodeling my kitchen, I looked at the gas cooktops about three years ago.My wonderful salesmenin all of his blunt and depenable honestly, showed me the little cast iron disks which on the F and P, are aluminum; that are on the cooktop.He bent them with his fingers. The fridges are a little tinnie, but have had no complaints about them.I was just told that they are not very well made and that my money was better spent on a Bosch Next Series,or the other alterative, a Miele that I love dearly, F and P just don't hold up as well and your old Whirpool. I have also made this observation about F and P. I went to back of Standard TV and appliance, in my hometown, where they have broken appliances, ones they are not going to fix, they have had a # of Fand P washers, the Eco drive , I think that it is a 9 model, or an 8 model theat have been sittng there with the control boards shot, and the motors'burned up. I think that in buying a new one, most would look at them and believe what the sales emt tell them.Depending how much you intend to use it, that is what I would have to evalualte it from that. I have family members that just went front loader instead of the alterative. I think that they use less water, my Milele heats its own water. The clothes are going to have less soap in them, then they wear the clothes less.that is just my 2cents.
I have a friend with five kids that I buy all of my soap from, they have a Fisher and Paykel. Granted at their house, it does get alot of use.I know that reciently they replaced the agitator because the fins broke off after three loads a day for about four years. She was not thrilled about that.It does have the 1000 Rpm spin which is nice.One of the salesment did an exparament to see which one would get more water out with the 1000 rpm spin--the Bosch axess or the F and P. it was amazing to me, but the Bosch was the winner hands down, from what they told me. When I was looking at remodeling my kitchen, I looked at the gas cooktops about three years ago.My wonderful salesmenin all of his blunt and depenable honestly, showed me the little cast iron disks which on the F and P, are aluminum; that are on the cooktop.He bent them with his fingers. The fridges are a little tinnie, but have had no complaints about them.I was just told that they are not very well made and that my money was better spent on a Bosch Next Series,or the other alterative, a Miele that I love dearly, F and P just don't hold up as well and your old Whirpool. I have also made this observation about F and P. I went to back of Standard TV and appliance, in my hometown, where they have broken appliances, ones they are not going to fix, they have had a # of Fand P washers, the Eco drive , I think that it is a 9 model, or an 8 model theat have been sittng there with the control boards shot, and the motors'burned up. I think that in buying a new one, most would look at them and believe what the sales emt tell them.Depending how much you intend to use it, that is what I would have to evalualte it from that. I have family members that just went front loader instead of the alterative. I think that they use less water, my Milele heats its own water. The clothes are going to have less soap in them, then they wear the clothes less.that is just my 2cents.
My GWL08 was purchased in August/September 1999. Haven't had any repairs or parts replaced. Weekend before Thanksgiving 2004 it was submerged in 12" to 14" of water during a freak flood for close to 8 hours, power cord connected for part of that time. Left it for several days to dry thoroughly, it has continued running none the worse for wear.
I washed two queen-size pillows in my IWL12 a couple days ago. Didn't seem to have any trouble agitating or spinning them.
Perhaps my experience is unusual ... but neither do I wash 3 loads per day. I suppose a breakdown could happen at any time!
I washed two queen-size pillows in my IWL12 a couple days ago. Didn't seem to have any trouble agitating or spinning them.
Perhaps my experience is unusual ... but neither do I wash 3 loads per day. I suppose a breakdown could happen at any time!
They are reliable machines
But in AU anyway, they are very very susceptible to power surges.
There are two computers in the F&P and both can be damaged by a power surge. If one of them fails, its ecconomical to repair, if the other fails it's time to buy a new machine. They would be the machine under 5 years old most commonly out for curbside collection after the Korean and Chinese stuff. However this may change, as in the last 12 months almost all of the domestic machines in AU now have Electronic Controls and as such these stats may change and the numbers will turn. IE Comparing Domestic Electronic Controls to Mechanical controls is probably unfair. Now they're both electronic their true colours should appear.
Most people over here tend to have them hooked up to a surge protector on the outlet.
This mightnt be an issue in the US due to the different design required for 110V. The Original Neptunes never had the same
issues they had in the US due to the 240V conversion.
Other than their sensitive electronics they are very reliable robust machines and generally they're great at what they do and do it with a minimum of fuss and hassle.
But in AU anyway, they are very very susceptible to power surges.
There are two computers in the F&P and both can be damaged by a power surge. If one of them fails, its ecconomical to repair, if the other fails it's time to buy a new machine. They would be the machine under 5 years old most commonly out for curbside collection after the Korean and Chinese stuff. However this may change, as in the last 12 months almost all of the domestic machines in AU now have Electronic Controls and as such these stats may change and the numbers will turn. IE Comparing Domestic Electronic Controls to Mechanical controls is probably unfair. Now they're both electronic their true colours should appear.
Most people over here tend to have them hooked up to a surge protector on the outlet.
This mightnt be an issue in the US due to the different design required for 110V. The Original Neptunes never had the same
issues they had in the US due to the 240V conversion.
Other than their sensitive electronics they are very reliable robust machines and generally they're great at what they do and do it with a minimum of fuss and hassle.
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Re: Speaking about Power Surges and Protectors:
I've been meaning to let everyone know, that sometime within the last couple of years, our Local Electric Company has offered a "FREE" Power Surge Protector installed right at our Circuit Breaker Boxes, right after the Meter and before our Circuit Breaker areas. Our local Electric Company is called "SMUD" which stands for Sacramento Municiple Utilities District. We've had a separate local Electric Company, for around something like at least 70 to 80 years and maybe even longer than that. I will have to research that "FYI" to find out for sure.
They have a couple of small Pilot Lights, with 1-Green and 1-Red to let you know the basic Statis of the Surge Protector. If the Light turns to the Red one, we contact our Electric Company and they even come out and replace the Surge Protector Unit at no Charge to the Customers.
This Surge Protector "BTW" also obviously protects the 220/240 Volts as well as the 110/115 Volts Power Outlets, for a whole house coverage.
I've still got some individual Power Surge Protector Power Strips like at my Computer and other Electronic Equipment. I feel that you can't really be overly covered, against Power Surges.
Peace and Happy proper operating Appliances, without Electrical damages, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...
I've been meaning to let everyone know, that sometime within the last couple of years, our Local Electric Company has offered a "FREE" Power Surge Protector installed right at our Circuit Breaker Boxes, right after the Meter and before our Circuit Breaker areas. Our local Electric Company is called "SMUD" which stands for Sacramento Municiple Utilities District. We've had a separate local Electric Company, for around something like at least 70 to 80 years and maybe even longer than that. I will have to research that "FYI" to find out for sure.
They have a couple of small Pilot Lights, with 1-Green and 1-Red to let you know the basic Statis of the Surge Protector. If the Light turns to the Red one, we contact our Electric Company and they even come out and replace the Surge Protector Unit at no Charge to the Customers.
This Surge Protector "BTW" also obviously protects the 220/240 Volts as well as the 110/115 Volts Power Outlets, for a whole house coverage.
I've still got some individual Power Surge Protector Power Strips like at my Computer and other Electronic Equipment. I feel that you can't really be overly covered, against Power Surges.
Peace and Happy proper operating Appliances, without Electrical damages, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...
Power Protection
I've always had a surge protector on my GWL08 (and IWL12). I don't remember now if I put one on the GWL08 when I moved it to my grandmother's house ... but I'm thinking (and hoping!) that I did. I don't have one on my DEGX1 (are 220-volt surge protectors available to consumers?). My electric provider offers a whole-house protector but I don't think there's a written guarantee on anything.
I also have a protector on my DishDrawer, computer (a BackUPS Pro 1000), and A/V equipment (a Panamax MAX-5100 power conditioner).
I've always had a surge protector on my GWL08 (and IWL12). I don't remember now if I put one on the GWL08 when I moved it to my grandmother's house ... but I'm thinking (and hoping!) that I did. I don't have one on my DEGX1 (are 220-volt surge protectors available to consumers?). My electric provider offers a whole-house protector but I don't think there's a written guarantee on anything.
I also have a protector on my DishDrawer, computer (a BackUPS Pro 1000), and A/V equipment (a Panamax MAX-5100 power conditioner).
WELCOME JEFF!
I absolutely LOVE my F&P set
I have the GWL11 washer and DE08 dryer and I love them both. I've had them since October, 2004. I had a first generation Maytag Neptune prior but I like this set so much more. I don't tell just anyone this, but I figure you guys are safe, but I love to watch the washer do it's thing. From the load sensing to the different agitation strokes it uses with different loads, it is so much fun to watch. Sometimes, it's more interesting than what's on TV.
I have the GWL11 washer and DE08 dryer and I love them both. I've had them since October, 2004. I had a first generation Maytag Neptune prior but I like this set so much more. I don't tell just anyone this, but I figure you guys are safe, but I love to watch the washer do it's thing. From the load sensing to the different agitation strokes it uses with different loads, it is so much fun to watch. Sometimes, it's more interesting than what's on TV.
Very safe!
And yes, we agree that a washer is far mor interesting than most (most!) of what is on tee vee.
Lawrence/Maytagbear
And yes, we agree that a washer is far mor interesting than most (most!) of what is on tee vee.
Lawrence/Maytagbear
Grant, fully understand after doing about 6 or more loads in DaDoEs IWL12. And welcome to the Laundry Channel.
Even after having an F&P for many months, it may come up with an action or response to a load condition that one hadn't before seen. After 5 years of GWL08 and now ~2 years of IWL12, I still watch it more often than not, for fear of missing something new happen. heheheee
Grant, try this: Set your machine to the final spin and let it get going to full speed. Then pull the power plug. The control panel and lid-lock will (should) stay energized until the motor coasts to a stop.
Grant, try this: Set your machine to the final spin and let it get going to full speed. Then pull the power plug. The control panel and lid-lock will (should) stay energized until the motor coasts to a stop.
irishwashguy
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How do you get around the locking lid on the Spin?
i have played with these at Standard TV and Appliance where they have many live machines on display and cookies for costomers ( I love that place!!!) I have looked at the F and P, I think that it is the GL -11 and are glad that it wil wash with the lid up on the new ones, but has as locking lid on the spin. what would you do?
i have played with these at Standard TV and Appliance where they have many live machines on display and cookies for costomers ( I love that place!!!) I have looked at the F and P, I think that it is the GL -11 and are glad that it wil wash with the lid up on the new ones, but has as locking lid on the spin. what would you do?
Carefully place a slim object into the slot to press the latch down. The latch rotates forward like a claw-hook into the tab on the lid, so the object generally must be inserted at an angle to work around the hook as it rotates forward. I cut a hole in an old credit card to roughly match the tab, but it's a touch tricky to use because a ccard is more flexible than the lid tab.
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Re. SMUD and the surge protectors: That is a fantastic idea. PG&E ought to pick up on it and do the same thing.
Latch 1
Latch tab on lid.
Latch tab on lid.
Latch 2
Credit card.
Credit card.
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