New GE Dishwasher Line

[logixx]

<span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span class="patent-title">Spray tines for a <span class="patent-text-highlight">dishwasher</span> rack</span></span>

http://www.google.com/patents/US201...X&ei=GYwCUuzODujb4QSq7oGwAQ&ved=0CEIQ6AEwAjgU
 

<span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span class="patent-title"><span class="patent-text-highlight">Dishwasher</span> spray assembly</span></span>

<span class="patent-title">http://www.google.com/patents/US201...X&ei=GYwCUuzODujb4QSq7oGwAQ&ved=0CFcQ6AEwBTgU</span>

 

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[mrb627]

multi purpose rack for my Miele dishwasher and I rarely use

I hate all the extra crap that gets piled into a product that you somehow have to find somewhere to store it. Awful!

1) Wine decanter attachment on my Miele dishwasher.
2) Stupid wire shelf in my microwave oven, honestly.
3) Egg bin in the refrigerator.

Enough already!

Malcolm

 

[jerrod6]

Reversing direction sounds nice and all but does this actually get anything cleaner faster or better than just one direction? Be interesting to see the wash time on these units. Last week I visited a relative with a new Whirlpool DW. It took 3 to almost 4 hours to complete a cycle and they even ran hot water to it before they started it. I mean.... I dunno.

 

[logixx]

Miele is going in the same direction. According to Google Patents, they have a reversing spray arm in the making.

 

The disadvantage, for me, is that most of these systems only work for the lower basket, which only has to wash large pots and so forth. Small items, where swirling jets would be beneficial, still go in the upper rack that has a regular wash arm.

 

http://www.google.com/patents/EP2601878A2?cl=en&hl=de&dq=DE+103+55+343+B3&ei=B7wCUvPYM8fXPerOgegG

 

[combo52]

Extra Crap on Dishwasher Racks

I wholeheartedly agree Malcolm, most of all those fold down dividers and useless plastic things that allow you to load ONE PIECE OF SILVERWARE at a time to me just waste usable space and my time when loading the DW. I usually end up throwing them out and those stupid metal shelves in OTR microwave ovens, I put those directly in the recycling pile when I am installing a new MW in a rental property.

 

[donprohel]

Swirling extra spray arm

Although surely the advertising is at least confusing and misleading (and it is Electrolux speciality to provide confusing and misleading information) the real goal of the swirling spray arm is not exactly cleaning better or faster, but rather beign less "sensitive" to the way the dishwasher is loaded.

This has also been my personal experience when I replaced an Electrolux ESI682 with an AEG F99009, where one of the (not many) differences between the two is the swirling extra spray arm.

Hence it is not a suprise that some consumers review magazines (for what they are worth: not much in my honest opinion) have found no cleaning ability improvement.

 

[volsboy1]

It looks interesting cause I have that problem with my L.G. dishwasher.
Things will get clean on one side but not the other.I guess that it one reason
the old Maytags were such great dishwasher's.You had torrents of water coming from everywhere plus having a powerful motor was a plus also.My L.G. is odd at times
sometimes it cleans better in normal wash mode than pot's and pans.I now load it like a old Maytag with the big stuff on top and small on bottom.All in all my next washer will be a Miele or a old Kitchenaid.Its a hard choice for me cause I love both machines.I have one of those washarms from a Orbit G.E. new that came in a huge box of G.E. junk I snagged off of Ebay...

 

[mrwash]

Well, in our Neff dishwasher (part of Bosch-Siemens) everthing gets clean and it has one sprayarm and it just rotates in one direction. So I don't see the benefit of a reversing spray arm.

 

[qualin]

The reversing spray arm seems like a gimmick to me and doesn't really add any value in my eyes. I'm still not big on the American style cutlery tray in GE dishwashers, I prefer a top rack myself.

I think the bottle washing thing is a decent idea, but IMO if they just had special bottle "spikes" on the top rack and a very aggressive top spray arm, I don't really see how there would be a difference in cleaning.

 

[spookiness]

I like the bottle wash idea. A bottle with a narrow opening is going to get missed otherwise. This is a good feature that I bet a lot of people will appreciate, what with baby bottles and the popularity of refillable water bottles, etc. Good idea lets hope it works out.

 

[lightedcontrols]

I have two Miele dishwashers and a single drawer F&P dishwasher in my kitchen. I can run all three at the same time and you don't hear a thing. My Sub-Zero freezer is noisier!

 

[mark_wpduet]

I can't understand

why anyone wouldn't think the bottle wash is a good idea. There are some things that are hard to get clean because of the narrow opening. A PERFECT example would be my coffee pot.

 

[foraloysius]

I had a look at the GE website today. GE makes some very noisy dishwashers, sometimes they produce up to 64dB!! That's more than the new European Electrolux vacuum! I can't believe that they still sell these.

Not that my BOL Miele is totally silent with 48dB. My 18 year old AEG did better with 45dB, but I'm not complaining after what I read today.

 

[logixx]

Louis,

I don't think you can really compare US dishwashers to European ones. Have a look at this Maytag MDB7749SBM and compare it to a European Bosch. The longest cycle on a modern Bosch will take 3:15 hrs. and consume 1.8 gallons or 6.5 liters. Maytag's Normal cycle runs a little shorter but the water consumption...

Bosch's current Quick cycle will run for 1:05 hrs. and consume roughly three gallons or 12 liters. Maytag's Light cycle takes longer and needs more water.

I won't even mention Maytag's Heavy Wash.

As much as I would take a wonderful American dryer over my Bosch condenser dryer any day - I don't think there's really anything as quiet and efficient as a Euro dishwasher. Well, maybe Japanese units, but these people are living in the future anyway. ;-)

(c)http://dishwashers.reviewed.com/content/maytag-mdb7749sbm-review/the-science

 

[logixx]

"I can't understand why anyone wouldn't think the bottle wash is a good idea"

Well, maybe the wash action for the upper rack in the video isn't running on full power - but if it is, I don't see these bottles getting a thorough cleaning.

 

[mark_wpduet]

Um...IF that's full power

in the video........I don't see ANYTHING getting a thorough cleaning.

 

[whirlykenmore78]

Maybe if the damn thing washed

The WHOLE LOAD properly you wouldn't need this stupid junk.  An older WP or KA DW would throw tons of water into those bottles with much more force and a lot hotter.  It also wouldn't take 3 hours to wash the dishes.

WK78

 

[tolivac]

What a dopey video!The wash spray arms spray with less force than a cheap lawn sprinkler-yet we have the rushing high pressure water soundtrack!Does the dish washer play this soundtrack as it washes to give you the ILLUSION its cleaning your bottles and dishes?Think you can do a better and faster wash job of your things IN THE SINK over this washer!In the bottle-the spray doesn't even reach the bottom of the bottle!Good Greif!

 

[mark_wpduet]

about the bottles with narrow openings and older more powerf

- The reason I said the bottle wash was a good idea is the fact that I've had some fantastic dishwashers in the past, but even in THOSE fantastic dishwashers that used HOT HOT water and a lot of it, even still some types of items with very narrow openings weren't perfectly clean...........

 

[machinehead]

Huh

Looks like a sales gimmick with potential to be useful. My initial impression is similar to the mini spray arms used on a few old DW's I nerember. Looks cool... But functionality? Dubious. My more important curiosity is, how does it reverse direction? Pump flow change? Direct drive spray arms? Post-pump water flow direction change? Gremlins or hamsters in scuba gear underneath, driving the hub clockwise and back? Hmmm...