New GE Top Load Washer
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ronhic
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it could be....
but Fisher and Paykel machines spin at 1000rpm not 700...
but Fisher and Paykel machines spin at 1000rpm not 700...
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*WOW* A full circle-and-a half arc!
HydroWave is not F&P.
I would assume that this is LG Based, in AU and Asia, Centre post long stroke machines are the norm.
Usually there is a belt driven motor connected to a gearbox that provides an agitation speed reduction, and the Motor alternates between forward and reverse to provide agitation. There is no reversing provided mechanically by the gearbox. Short Strokes with long pauses for delicates and long strokes with no pause for normal.
To Spin a brake is released which allows the gearbox and tub to spin. On the Aussie made machines, when you open the lid during spin, it stops with a loud bang as the metal tang on the gearbox is caught by the brake.
Usually there is a belt driven motor connected to a gearbox that provides an agitation speed reduction, and the Motor alternates between forward and reverse to provide agitation. There is no reversing provided mechanically by the gearbox. Short Strokes with long pauses for delicates and long strokes with no pause for normal.
To Spin a brake is released which allows the gearbox and tub to spin. On the Aussie made machines, when you open the lid during spin, it stops with a loud bang as the metal tang on the gearbox is caught by the brake.
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hooverzodiac12
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its more like a metalic snap i guess. hoovers, simpsons, old japanese brands, and ge's do it still. some of the older ones would do it at the start of spinn too
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This particular Hydrowash machine is an "infusor" model, which in GE-speak means it uses a washplate rather than an agitator, like GE's LG-built infusor models which also use the Hydrowave name. These are similar to the "Harmony" machines, without the communication feature between the washer and the dryer, and without the more radical Harmony styling. These new machines look like a GE design, but not having seen one up close, it's hard to tell for sure. GE's own literature for the new machine describes its 4.1 cu. ft "colossal capacity" as "being able to wash an equivalent amount of clothes as a similar cu. ft agitator machine."
ronhic
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Interesting.....
.....GE's own literature for the new machine describes its 4.1 cu. ft "colossal capacity" as "being able to wash an equivalent amount of clothes as a similar cu. ft agitator machine."
I would have hoped that any machine advertised as washing a 4.1 cu.ft. should be able to wash the same amount as a machine of the same capacity....
Do the advertising merchants think we are all stupid???
....or am I being a tad sensitive to the 'stating the bloody obvious' fact that a machine with a stated capacity will hold and wash the same as another brand with the same stated capacity???
.....GE's own literature for the new machine describes its 4.1 cu. ft "colossal capacity" as "being able to wash an equivalent amount of clothes as a similar cu. ft agitator machine."
I would have hoped that any machine advertised as washing a 4.1 cu.ft. should be able to wash the same amount as a machine of the same capacity....
Do the advertising merchants think we are all stupid???
....or am I being a tad sensitive to the 'stating the bloody obvious' fact that a machine with a stated capacity will hold and wash the same as another brand with the same stated capacity???
jamman_98
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I may purchase one
I went to Lowes and the guy who works there told me he'd have to contact GE to see if they are allowed to carry it. I could get it from an independent appliance place but the ones here don't impress me with their customer service. If the price is right, I'm going to purchase it this month but if not i'm going for a 3.5 capacity one I liked before with the Hydrowave action.
Joe
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I went to Lowes and the guy who works there told me he'd have to contact GE to see if they are allowed to carry it. I could get it from an independent appliance place but the ones here don't impress me with their customer service. If the price is right, I'm going to purchase it this month but if not i'm going for a 3.5 capacity one I liked before with the Hydrowave action.
Joe
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"I would have hoped that any machine advertised as washing a 4.1 cu.ft. should be able to wash the same amount as a machine of the same capacity.... "
What this means is that the machine is not actually 4.1 cu ft (thus the I.E.C. designation), and since it does not have an agitator, it will wash as much as a comparable 4.1 cu. ft (D.O.E measure) rated washer. My guess is the machine has the same 3.5 cu. ft tub as the regular hydrowave washer, they have just removed the agitator in favor of the "infusor", which takes up less space, thus leaving room for more clothes. THat's how manufacturers get to the I.E.C. equivalent of the D.O.E. rating. Basically, makes it look bigger than it actually is. So a 3.5 cu. ft D.O.E. rating is equivalent, in this case, to a 4.1 cu. ft. I.E.C. rated capacity. In any case, it will hold more clothes than the 3.5 cu. ft D.O.E. agitator model, but it's not really any bigger than that same model.
Take the new Kenmore 800 washers. They rate them at 4.0 cu. ft. I.E.C., yet it's the same damned washbasket other 3.5 cu. ft. D.O.E. rated Kenmore washers in Sears' lineup use. What's the difference in this case? The rating scale....I.E.C. vs. D.O.E. The machines are basically identical capacities. The way it's presented is quite decieving, as it's not really a bigger machine.
What this means is that the machine is not actually 4.1 cu ft (thus the I.E.C. designation), and since it does not have an agitator, it will wash as much as a comparable 4.1 cu. ft (D.O.E measure) rated washer. My guess is the machine has the same 3.5 cu. ft tub as the regular hydrowave washer, they have just removed the agitator in favor of the "infusor", which takes up less space, thus leaving room for more clothes. THat's how manufacturers get to the I.E.C. equivalent of the D.O.E. rating. Basically, makes it look bigger than it actually is. So a 3.5 cu. ft D.O.E. rating is equivalent, in this case, to a 4.1 cu. ft. I.E.C. rated capacity. In any case, it will hold more clothes than the 3.5 cu. ft D.O.E. agitator model, but it's not really any bigger than that same model.
Take the new Kenmore 800 washers. They rate them at 4.0 cu. ft. I.E.C., yet it's the same damned washbasket other 3.5 cu. ft. D.O.E. rated Kenmore washers in Sears' lineup use. What's the difference in this case? The rating scale....I.E.C. vs. D.O.E. The machines are basically identical capacities. The way it's presented is quite decieving, as it's not really a bigger machine.
ronhic
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Thanks Andrew
For explaining that...
Our machines use the 'European' capacity in Kilograms of dry load...so talkiing 'cu ft' really means little to us regarding capacity since we have been metric since 1972....and even before then we refered to capacity in 'lb'
For explaining that...
Our machines use the 'European' capacity in Kilograms of dry load...so talkiing 'cu ft' really means little to us regarding capacity since we have been metric since 1972....and even before then we refered to capacity in 'lb'
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Some manufacturers rate in pounds, but since various fabric weights, compared to their volume, can be so very different, the volume measurement is a more accurate portrayal of how much you can shove into a washer. 18 pounds of sheer curtains and 18 pounds of towels are two very different loads, and it would be highly unlikely that one would get 18 pounds of sheer curtains into a washer as the volume of the fabric would quickly fill the machine. In either case, the whole concept of volume is easily deceiving to those who don't understand the manufacturer's concept of measure, and the fact that the measurement is somewhat different between the two scales.
ronhic
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Cotton
...which is why the maximum capacity of machines both here and in Europe is for cottons and there are different weights for synthetics, wool etc in the owners manual.
For my 6.5kg machine, the synthetics load is 3kg and for wool 2kg as an example
...which is why the maximum capacity of machines both here and in Europe is for cottons and there are different weights for synthetics, wool etc in the owners manual.
For my 6.5kg machine, the synthetics load is 3kg and for wool 2kg as an example
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Now that's something American manufacturers have never done, but gives a truer representation of a machines rated capacity.
