I just saw an ad for a new Hoover high performance vac. Who makes this, please? Is it made in China?
Thanks.
Thanks.
New Hoover ad on TV
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cfz2882
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I was looking at vacumes a couple weeks ago(for my mom,local stores)and they were all made in china except the dyson which was made in Malaysia...about 4 yrs ago,she bought a hoover and as I recall it was marked"assembled in mexico" At that time...BTW,she ended up buying a dyson 41-a pretty nice vacume I will admit,but way overpriced in my opinion at nearly $550 on sale...
I was looking at vacumes a couple weeks ago(for my mom,local stores)and they were all made in china except the dyson which was made in Malaysia...about 4 yrs ago,she bought a hoover and as I recall it was marked"assembled in mexico" At that time...BTW,she ended up buying a dyson 41-a pretty nice vacume I will admit,but way overpriced in my opinion at nearly $550 on sale...
lancethecook
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Dyson
I really thought they were made in Britain, so much so that I bought one.
I must admit , it really is a great vacuum but I didn't realise it wasn't British made.
How very dissapointing.
I really thought they were made in Britain, so much so that I bought one.
I must admit , it really is a great vacuum but I didn't realise it wasn't British made.
How very dissapointing.
Thank you.
Just two cities, my friends, North Canton, OH and Newton, IA. Jobs gone. This is how we are "cared for" by corporations.
Just two cities, my friends, North Canton, OH and Newton, IA. Jobs gone. This is how we are "cared for" by corporations.
cfz2882
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dyson origin
possibly only the dyson vacs meant for the US market are from Malaysia and those sold in England are UK made-surly for the price they sell at,i recon dyson could still make a nice profit if they were properly made in UK...
possibly only the dyson vacs meant for the US market are from Malaysia and those sold in England are UK made-surly for the price they sell at,i recon dyson could still make a nice profit if they were properly made in UK...
This is how we are "cared for" by corporations.
I work for one of those large corporations that still builds things in the USA, provides thousands of good local jobs, pays millions in local taxes, etc. Not only do they build things here, they also design them, test them and procure their parts locally, If you don't like their products, you have a choice of two other companies where the above statements also apply. Many people speak a good game about "buying locally" (food, beer, rain barrels and other items that employ a handful of people).
Guess what? Fewer and fewer people care. The receptionist at my dentist office commented that my emergency appointment would be covered because "Chrysler provides such good benefits" (her exact words). When I arrived at the office, there were two cars in the lot... The older Mercury driven by the dentist and the newer Toyota driven by the receptionist. I wonder how many patients she books with insurance from Toyota? I'd guess zero. (But probably also does quite a few from GM/Ford)
So do you blame the companies? How long does Hoover take a loss while consumers; even in the local areas affected, show they could care less if a product comes from Ohio, Great Britian or a protectionist nation that tacks huge tariff on imported manufactured goods... Like China, Korea, etc.?
I work for one of those large corporations that still builds things in the USA, provides thousands of good local jobs, pays millions in local taxes, etc. Not only do they build things here, they also design them, test them and procure their parts locally, If you don't like their products, you have a choice of two other companies where the above statements also apply. Many people speak a good game about "buying locally" (food, beer, rain barrels and other items that employ a handful of people).
Guess what? Fewer and fewer people care. The receptionist at my dentist office commented that my emergency appointment would be covered because "Chrysler provides such good benefits" (her exact words). When I arrived at the office, there were two cars in the lot... The older Mercury driven by the dentist and the newer Toyota driven by the receptionist. I wonder how many patients she books with insurance from Toyota? I'd guess zero. (But probably also does quite a few from GM/Ford)
So do you blame the companies? How long does Hoover take a loss while consumers; even in the local areas affected, show they could care less if a product comes from Ohio, Great Britian or a protectionist nation that tacks huge tariff on imported manufactured goods... Like China, Korea, etc.?
Calm youself, please, Carmine. I was not talking about cars and no autos were made in Newton, IA or North Canton. Were it not for Congress making it possible for corporations to move manufacturing overseas, after being bribed by corporate lobbyists to do so and then giving them tax breaks for moving, we would not be in this fix. None of the Big 3 auto makers' employee benefits were be worth shit if not for the unions fighting for the workers. It was unions fighting for wages that raised the standard of living in this country, especially in the post-war years. I grew up in the 50s, when "made in Japan" meant junk, even in children's toys. I remember when Japan had a place named "USA" so that something could be stamped "Made in USA" and fool buyers who were trying to avoid foreign-made junk. It was disappointing to learn that the major American brands of transistor radios were made in Japan, but it still felt & looked better to have a GE, RCA Victor or Westinghouse than an AIWA. We are in a sad state now with most of our manufacturing base moved overseas.
arbilab
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There came a time when Japanese was the best you could get in manufactured goods. Then came another time when it too was 'assembled in Mexico from components made in China' and only NAMED Japanese, whilst their economy did much the same as ours (US).
THEN there came a time when a great many people bought the cheapest thing they could find at Walmart that claimed to perform a function, largely without regard to whether it actually did or not. (Can't blame everything on corporations.)
GE has pulled some select manufacturing back to Louisville KY. With fuel increases, shipping has escalated. The corporation has to float the value of inventory sitting on the proverbial 'slow boat from China' and that ain't free. There can be hundreds of thousands of defective product shipped before the defect is discovered and the remote vendor disciplined.
All the above was foreseeable. Question might be, why didn't the $M Harvard MBAs running these corporations see ANY of it coming when they set it in motion? Well I can answer that, having known some MBAs before they laid me off at Dell.
MBAs know NOTHING of the real world. When it's painstakingly explained to them, their eyes roll back in their heads. They only know spreadsheets. From this month or at most this quarter. Even when we (engineers) put the data INTO spreadsheets, they couldn't comprehend that shipping junk was a lose-lose scenario in anything but the briefest term. Thus Dell went from a $50-$75 stock to a $7-$14 stock where they are today.
MBAs are like drivers who never look beyond their Mercedes hood ornament. Thus it can be concluded that everything wrong with the world consumer economy and its products has as its root cause the American business schools and their graduates. The enemy is not only us, it is among the most highly rewarded of us.
THEN there came a time when a great many people bought the cheapest thing they could find at Walmart that claimed to perform a function, largely without regard to whether it actually did or not. (Can't blame everything on corporations.)
GE has pulled some select manufacturing back to Louisville KY. With fuel increases, shipping has escalated. The corporation has to float the value of inventory sitting on the proverbial 'slow boat from China' and that ain't free. There can be hundreds of thousands of defective product shipped before the defect is discovered and the remote vendor disciplined.
All the above was foreseeable. Question might be, why didn't the $M Harvard MBAs running these corporations see ANY of it coming when they set it in motion? Well I can answer that, having known some MBAs before they laid me off at Dell.
MBAs know NOTHING of the real world. When it's painstakingly explained to them, their eyes roll back in their heads. They only know spreadsheets. From this month or at most this quarter. Even when we (engineers) put the data INTO spreadsheets, they couldn't comprehend that shipping junk was a lose-lose scenario in anything but the briefest term. Thus Dell went from a $50-$75 stock to a $7-$14 stock where they are today.
MBAs are like drivers who never look beyond their Mercedes hood ornament. Thus it can be concluded that everything wrong with the world consumer economy and its products has as its root cause the American business schools and their graduates. The enemy is not only us, it is among the most highly rewarded of us.
beekeyknee
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And now the Government is working on the Trans Pacific Partnership! A disaster waiting to happen.
philr
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Automobile and other manufacturing plants...
GM and Hyundai used to have manufacturing plants around where I live and they both closed after taking a lot money from our government (I think GM took even more money to built a brand new paint shop just before they were about to leave and tear the plant down!). Over the years, I bought quite a few (used!) GM and Chrysler products but the newer ones I got (and new ones that other friends and family members got) weren't so reliable or durable so I did like my friends, co-workers and relatives and started to buy imports! I still keep my pre-1980 GM cars but I don't think I'll buy newer ones soon! I never bought a new or even near-new vehicle and probably never will but at least, the old imports I drive daily are still reliable and inexpensive to keep going!
GE Camco also had a manufacturing plant here that was sold to the Mexican Mabe (who still produces GE appliances there) and it's about to close.
Electrolux still makes Frigidaire appliances in a bigger plant near my hometown in L'Assomption and it's also set to close. (Since this thread is about vacuums, the Electrolux vacuum plant closed a long time ago in Pointe-Claire!). Since they announced the closure at the Electrolux plant in L'Assomption, employees lost their insurance benefits, wages went down and the closure keeps being delayed but the employee's conditions keep deteriorating which is probably what the corporation wanted. And as soon as they don't need this plant anymore, they'll close it anyway...
Of course, we can't be competitive with places down south as it costs a lot more to live here, maintain our roads, heat our plants and our houses than it does almost everywhere else! But the problem is that we have free trade agreements that allow manufacturers to produce goods in places where the weather makes production cheaper and where employees with lower wages are richer because they have to spend less to survive in nicer weather...
GM and Hyundai used to have manufacturing plants around where I live and they both closed after taking a lot money from our government (I think GM took even more money to built a brand new paint shop just before they were about to leave and tear the plant down!). Over the years, I bought quite a few (used!) GM and Chrysler products but the newer ones I got (and new ones that other friends and family members got) weren't so reliable or durable so I did like my friends, co-workers and relatives and started to buy imports! I still keep my pre-1980 GM cars but I don't think I'll buy newer ones soon! I never bought a new or even near-new vehicle and probably never will but at least, the old imports I drive daily are still reliable and inexpensive to keep going!
GE Camco also had a manufacturing plant here that was sold to the Mexican Mabe (who still produces GE appliances there) and it's about to close.
Electrolux still makes Frigidaire appliances in a bigger plant near my hometown in L'Assomption and it's also set to close. (Since this thread is about vacuums, the Electrolux vacuum plant closed a long time ago in Pointe-Claire!). Since they announced the closure at the Electrolux plant in L'Assomption, employees lost their insurance benefits, wages went down and the closure keeps being delayed but the employee's conditions keep deteriorating which is probably what the corporation wanted. And as soon as they don't need this plant anymore, they'll close it anyway...
Of course, we can't be competitive with places down south as it costs a lot more to live here, maintain our roads, heat our plants and our houses than it does almost everywhere else! But the problem is that we have free trade agreements that allow manufacturers to produce goods in places where the weather makes production cheaper and where employees with lower wages are richer because they have to spend less to survive in nicer weather...
Corporations and their wealthy owners will conspire with corrupt, anti-tax politicians to drive our tax base down to nothing. Then they complain that we cannot have any programs that educate or take care of our citizens because we have no money in the budget while the people and the corporations raking in the bucks are paying historically low taxes and banking the rest because they are called "job-creators" and therefore are to be protected from paying taxes. They are job-creators of sorts, but mostly in other countries, not in the United States. Their main beneficiaries in the US are the parasitic political class: the PACS and the politicians they own. The greatest danger to our democracy is the growing wealth of the upper class which makes them believe that they can run the country as a fiefdom for their own benefit. We read about the Age of the Robber Barons and think it is history, but the laws engendered by their excess are largely being repealed and dismantled, giving their heirs carte blanche to do it again.
