jasonl
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new kenmore elite drawer dishwasher not cutting it....
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I think the upper spray arm was changed to include the holes on the ends sometime in 2004.
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the drawer dishwasher was looked at by a technician, and he noted it was a manufacturer defective maching.. i knew i wanst nuts... returned it and bought a bosch... again....hey everyone, thanks for your responses. they helped a lot...
the drawer dishwasher was looked at by a technician, and he noted it was a manufacturer defective maching.. i knew i wanst nuts... returned it and bought a bosch... again....hey everyone, thanks for your responses. they helped a lot...
magic clean
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The spray arm was revised in late 2001.
Added two spray holes of approximatley the same size as the others. One near the tip, the other 1/4 of the way in.
Was conscious of the couter-clockwise (anti-clocklwise) rotation of the spray-arm to ensure the 45* angle of the new hole "helps" rather than "fights" the rotation.
What I have most likley accomplished is that there is now not enough pressure/force to wash anything well. LOL
We shall see!
Was conscious of the couter-clockwise (anti-clocklwise) rotation of the spray-arm to ensure the 45* angle of the new hole "helps" rather than "fights" the rotation.
What I have most likley accomplished is that there is now not enough pressure/force to wash anything well. LOL
We shall see!
Seriously?
So, Hobart comes out with the KitchenAid 18 series with the top wash-arm after years of bottom-wash-arm-only configurations, and they put a shorty up in the top rack with no jets at the ends.
Result: Yiblets in the far-corner glasses. Glasses encrusted, even COATED in crumbs, toothpicks, used tissues, and meat gristle. There's rioting in the streets, and hundreds of dishwashers are flipped-over and set ablaze.
Customers complain, Hobart learns a lesson, and releases a revised upper rack with a wash arm that's lengthier and has VERY pronounced jets at the tips. Whirlpool acquires KitchenAid from Hobart, and continues this basic design for a long time, so we know that the idea of the idea was still there.
And yet, they had to learn this all over again?
*chuckle*
So, Hobart comes out with the KitchenAid 18 series with the top wash-arm after years of bottom-wash-arm-only configurations, and they put a shorty up in the top rack with no jets at the ends.
Result: Yiblets in the far-corner glasses. Glasses encrusted, even COATED in crumbs, toothpicks, used tissues, and meat gristle. There's rioting in the streets, and hundreds of dishwashers are flipped-over and set ablaze.
Customers complain, Hobart learns a lesson, and releases a revised upper rack with a wash arm that's lengthier and has VERY pronounced jets at the tips. Whirlpool acquires KitchenAid from Hobart, and continues this basic design for a long time, so we know that the idea of the idea was still there.
And yet, they had to learn this all over again?
*chuckle*
Hold the Yiblets, Please.
~What I have most likely accomplished is that there is now not enough pressure/force to wash anything well. LOL
Nah.........So far, so good.
~What I have most likely accomplished is that there is now not enough pressure/force to wash anything well. LOL
Nah.........So far, so good.
Congratulations Steve!!!
kenmore drawer
Hi Steve,
What do you actually plan on doing with this dishwasher? Believe me I know what it's like to be totatly discusted with a appliance. With all that is out their it's like playing russian roulet when purchasing a appliance.
Peter
Hi Steve,
What do you actually plan on doing with this dishwasher? Believe me I know what it's like to be totatly discusted with a appliance. With all that is out their it's like playing russian roulet when purchasing a appliance.
Peter
Banish it to *flea-pay!*
~What do you actually plan on doing with this dishwasher?
You could always hack it into a hundred pieces with an axe and blame it on PMS.
~What do you actually plan on doing with this dishwasher?
You could always hack it into a hundred pieces with an axe and blame it on PMS.
Hi peter....
which dishwasher. the old one? i got that returned, and repurchsed a bosch.. what do i want my dishwasher to do? simply wash my dishes clean.. the kenmore drawer dishwasher was a nightmare, and luckily i was able to get my money back.
the whole process had me skeptical from th beginning.. the sales people knew nothing about it,, the installer had trouble installing it- i was his first. the tech that came out to deem it defective, really didnt know what he was looking for... all people involved were simply frustrated with this product.. it was bizarre. im glad im out of it, and got my 1,200 bucks back..
which dishwasher. the old one? i got that returned, and repurchsed a bosch.. what do i want my dishwasher to do? simply wash my dishes clean.. the kenmore drawer dishwasher was a nightmare, and luckily i was able to get my money back.
the whole process had me skeptical from th beginning.. the sales people knew nothing about it,, the installer had trouble installing it- i was his first. the tech that came out to deem it defective, really didnt know what he was looking for... all people involved were simply frustrated with this product.. it was bizarre. im glad im out of it, and got my 1,200 bucks back..
We found out in service training on Wednesday that the Kenmore dish drawers being introduced at Sears are made in Jackson, TN, in the Maytag dishwasher factory and Sears will have a 6 month exclusive on them which is why we will not get service training on them until this fall. This is a design Maytag came up with before WP bought them. It is not F&P. After the 6 months, there will be a decision concerning under which names it will be marketed.
Possible changing of brand name *after* product sales have already occurred? Who woulda thunk it!
I should note that my F&P DishDrawer has the same glitch with glasses placed at the corners. I've found that placing *larger* diameter glasses there, instead of smaller ones such as 4- to 6-oz juice glasses, gives better results. The Normal cycle is 112 mins, Normal Eco is 88 mins.
I should note that my F&P DishDrawer has the same glitch with glasses placed at the corners. I've found that placing *larger* diameter glasses there, instead of smaller ones such as 4- to 6-oz juice glasses, gives better results. The Normal cycle is 112 mins, Normal Eco is 88 mins.
passatdoc
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Bosch SHX33A
I have a Bosch SHX33A purchased in October 2001. This is the integrated design: full, plain white panel with parabolic handle and in-the-door-edge buttons. The 33A was the most basic of the integrated line, with only three cycles: Quick Wash, Normal, and Power Scrub Plus. Which is really all that most customers really need (assuming you aren't washing crystal or sanitizing baby bottles every day).
Dead quiet operation. Everything gets clean, no matter where it's placed. Does NOT have a soft food disposer, so you have to scrape large chunks before loading, but no prerinsing is needed. No heated drying, and none is needed: just keep the machine full of rinse agent (e.g. Jet Dry or equivalent) so that the water evaporates off the dishes and on to the metal tub (it is normal to have some moisture on the tub walls at end cycle).
Power Scrub Plus takes about two hours, while Normal cycle runs about 90 minutes. I use Electrasol tablets. In my area, Safeway/VONS markets sell a house brand generic tablet that works well. For extra heavy loads, you can toss an extra tablet into the tub to provide soap during the initial rinse, since the dispenser lacks a second soap compartment. But 99% of the time I use a single tablet and everything comes out clean. Even baked on stuff. No matter where it's placed in the racks.
We converted what was supposed to be a breakfast nook (right off the kitchen) into a home office. So noise is an issue, in terms of being able to use the office without having to deal with excessive dishwasher noise, like the old late 1980s GE Potscrubber used to make. It was awful and often the dishes weren't well cleaned, even on PotScrubber cycle.
I have a Bosch SHX33A purchased in October 2001. This is the integrated design: full, plain white panel with parabolic handle and in-the-door-edge buttons. The 33A was the most basic of the integrated line, with only three cycles: Quick Wash, Normal, and Power Scrub Plus. Which is really all that most customers really need (assuming you aren't washing crystal or sanitizing baby bottles every day).
Dead quiet operation. Everything gets clean, no matter where it's placed. Does NOT have a soft food disposer, so you have to scrape large chunks before loading, but no prerinsing is needed. No heated drying, and none is needed: just keep the machine full of rinse agent (e.g. Jet Dry or equivalent) so that the water evaporates off the dishes and on to the metal tub (it is normal to have some moisture on the tub walls at end cycle).
Power Scrub Plus takes about two hours, while Normal cycle runs about 90 minutes. I use Electrasol tablets. In my area, Safeway/VONS markets sell a house brand generic tablet that works well. For extra heavy loads, you can toss an extra tablet into the tub to provide soap during the initial rinse, since the dispenser lacks a second soap compartment. But 99% of the time I use a single tablet and everything comes out clean. Even baked on stuff. No matter where it's placed in the racks.
We converted what was supposed to be a breakfast nook (right off the kitchen) into a home office. So noise is an issue, in terms of being able to use the office without having to deal with excessive dishwasher noise, like the old late 1980s GE Potscrubber used to make. It was awful and often the dishes weren't well cleaned, even on PotScrubber cycle.
@bleacho, OMG! You had $1200 to spend on a dishwasher and you bought a Kenmore? :\ Mark my word, if you have that much to spend on a dishwasher, the only names that should be in your head are Miele, Thermador, Asko, Gaggenau, Bosch. Don't believe Whirlpool's scams. Whirlpool for the most part, no matter how much you spend, makes budget dishwashers. I ought to know, I had to deal with the horrors of one
And beware, Whirlpool purchased interests in such once reputable names as Maytag, KitchenAid a few years ago. They're all crap now cause they are made by Whirlpool and aren't made well.
And beware, Whirlpool purchased interests in such once reputable names as Maytag, KitchenAid a few years ago. They're all crap now cause they are made by Whirlpool and aren't made well.
mich
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I'm hoping...
In all these 6 Years, he's ventured on to a nicer, dishwasher
In all these 6 Years, he's ventured on to a nicer, dishwasher
whirlpool TT dishwashers
My dad has a whirlpool gold dishwasher with soak and scour and timer display. It does clean well. I use cascade complete and crystal clear rinse aid. I use the citrus breeze variety. When my dad's dishwasher washes, it reminds me of how the GE potscrubber dishwashers sound with the main wash pump.
My dad has a whirlpool gold dishwasher with soak and scour and timer display. It does clean well. I use cascade complete and crystal clear rinse aid. I use the citrus breeze variety. When my dad's dishwasher washes, it reminds me of how the GE potscrubber dishwashers sound with the main wash pump.
