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[toggleswitch]

Give it a gentle whack with the side of a monkey wrench.....

If there is a separate flo-control valve (normally at the top of the boiler) it may be stuck shut from disuse.

 

[perc-o-prince]

So if it's not too personal, tell me about your pipes...

6 zones, 3 circulators.

Circ 1- indirect tank.
Circ 2- downstairs (all one zone)
Circ 3- the other 5 zones in the house (3 on the main floor and two upstairs)

And the valves are LV. They just wanted to be sure it's all nice and pretty for the inspection.

Yes, we do have a register vent that I installed in the wall of that room.

I'll get a pic of the safety thingy for ya!

Chuck

 

[perc-o-prince]

oh Chuck, show us the safety on the ceiling

Here ya go, Steve

 

[sudsmaster]

Re: Panty hose as bug screen

Why not just use window screening? It probably would be much less likely to clog, and still keep out the vast majority of bugs (unless "no-see-ums" are a problem in your area).

 

[toggleswitch]

How can you tell when a woman in panty-hose farts?
Her ankles swell.

~Why not just use window screening?

Because in an all-male household panty-hose lying about makes Mrs. Kravitz (and her type) have something to talk about.

Actually IMHO. it's easier to work with and a finer mesh.

And if the room happens to become mal-odorous, it's easier to blame the panty-hose! (ducks and runs!)

 

[bobbyderegis]

Hey Rich and Chuck!
It looks like a beauty. I bet the bills will be a lot more beautiful, too. We just had a Boderus boiler put in at work, and the bills were more than cut in half.
Bobby in Boston

 

[tomturbomatic]

WOW! Congratulations. Lotsabucks. This is not a condensing boiler, is it? Now, like Sgt. Shultz, I know nothing, but I have a question about summer water heating. Isn't is very expensive to heat the boiler in the summer for the water heater or is the new system with the tank a more efficient method than having the instantaneous coil? In the summer when you are just heating water, can the boiler run at a lower temperature? Would a heat pump water heater with an electric element for back up cost less to run? Will those pipes get foam insulation sleeves after the inspector's approval?

I have a very simple hydronic system in the glass room addition to my house. The closed system is a 30 gallon direct vent gas water heater underneath in the shop/plant room feeding baseboards above. The water heater fires on its own thermostat. The room thermostat will open the valve and start the circulator pump, but it also convects on gravity with the valve manually locked open so it is the one system I have that is not dependent on electricity should the worst happen. The ceiling fan keeps the air well mixed so the floor is not cold. Keeping that room warm allows me to delay using the forced air gas furnace at the start of the heating season and takes a great load off the furnace when both are in operation.

Toggle, have you ever discussed steam heating with Jon of Melrose and Chatham, MA? He converted from hot water to steam in his Melrose residence.

 

[toggleswitch]

Please allow me to interject my $.02 worth...........

~This is not a condensing boiler, is it?
No. Just a regular one. A condensing boiler would have a smaller exhaust stack (pipe) and sometimes it is made of PVC (plastic).

~Isn't is very expensive to heat the boiler in the summer for the water heater or is the new system with the tank a more efficient method than having the instantaneous coil?

It is less expensive than a separate free standing oil-fired hot water heater as buner heads are a major cost.

Based upon the size of their house and a top-loading washer
this water heating method provides vastly greater hot-water supply for their taps.... and now appparently pressure and flow too!

~In the summer when you are just heating water, can the boiler run at a lower temperature?

YES. But it is probably kept at no more than 120*F- 140*F just for hot water. The zone control valves also fire-up the burner when there is a call for space-heating. The limit on the boiler is then 180*F (i.e. 120*F low-limit; 180*F high-limit).

~Would a heat pump water heater with an electric element for back up cost less to run?

Electicity in the suburbs of Boston is probably just as high-priced as electricty in the suburbs of NYC. Fossil fuels are generally less expensive than electricity in most parts for the northeast US.

This (a heat-pump HWH) will only serve to cool the house and then the heat has to be replaced by the boiler anyway. Not so good in a cold climate. Better in Hawaii or Puerto Rico where year round cooling and dehundifiction is ideal.

~Will those pipes get foam insulation sleeves after the inspector's approval?

Perhaps not. The heating season is 7 to 8 months long so any loss that is not during heating season (4 to 5 month) is only a useful gian in winter. The net gain from the heat-loss is acceptable in a cold climate.

~Toggle, have you ever discussed steam heating with Jon of Melrose and Chatham, MA? He converted from hot water to steam in his Melrose residence.

NOPE.
Interesting- I have heard of steam to hot-water conversion for distribution systems/means but not vicey-versey.

 

[tomturbomatic]

Toggle, Thanks. I was talking about using the heap pump water heater in the summer so that the boiler would not have to be kept in operation, but I guess if heat is needed all but 4 months of the year, alternate types of water heating do not make sense. Interesting boiler temps. I saw hot water systems in Minnesota that run above 212F.