was at Walmart....and they have these new Bleach tablets.....their OK, you have to consider making sure they disolve before contact with clothing....can come in handy compared to the big jug....
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in a variety of scents...
now that the show has been cancelled, Mike Rowe has a line of cleaning products from "Dirty Jobs".....
another.....Detergent....
NO cold water washes for this stuff....best in Warm or Hot....interesting!
kenmoreguy89
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The dirty jobs "detergents"... additives have been available from awhile at Walmart, it is about a year they shows on walmart website...
I would not buy it though...it simply does not convince me...a detegent that advertises with a TV program! Camon! LOL
Ok, Mike Rowe gets dirty... the same way do people that do the jobs he does in TV program,and that they kept and will keep doing for years... and with this? I believe any detergent should clean it! It's not you that is special!
BTW I find his program really stupid and non-sense, I almost hate it....so I'd never buy it for that reason also...
The bleach tablets are nice but IMO they have more cons than pros ( dosing convenency? maybe? Concentrated? they only cons I can find...), in Italy you used to find many chlorine bleach tablets for awhile in the 90s and early 2000ish, then not anymore....there're still forms of additives and Color safe bleaches in tablets and now pods (new and old) though like these you posted...
For me is the same speech about detergent it tablets, when one is too less 2 may be too much, the same way if you use 1 in a small load (loosen product)... but is nice the idea of different scents of these ones ,but mixed with detergent the scent may assume different tones...
I'd just go for powders personally....
Thanks for sharing!
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I would not buy it though...it simply does not convince me...a detegent that advertises with a TV program! Camon! LOL
Ok, Mike Rowe gets dirty... the same way do people that do the jobs he does in TV program,and that they kept and will keep doing for years... and with this? I believe any detergent should clean it! It's not you that is special!
BTW I find his program really stupid and non-sense, I almost hate it....so I'd never buy it for that reason also...
The bleach tablets are nice but IMO they have more cons than pros ( dosing convenency? maybe? Concentrated? they only cons I can find...), in Italy you used to find many chlorine bleach tablets for awhile in the 90s and early 2000ish, then not anymore....there're still forms of additives and Color safe bleaches in tablets and now pods (new and old) though like these you posted...
For me is the same speech about detergent it tablets, when one is too less 2 may be too much, the same way if you use 1 in a small load (loosen product)... but is nice the idea of different scents of these ones ,but mixed with detergent the scent may assume different tones...
I'd just go for powders personally....
Thanks for sharing!
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kenmoreguy89
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Also, I use chlorine bleach in laundry only and exclusively to remedy to some wash errors, like a red socks that found it's way in the white load, it never happens...
Bleach ruin fabrics...no good to be used for "cleaning" in laundry to improve a crappy detergent and to do the job that it does not *but should*... I will never understand people using bleach in laundry as cleaner...detergent should do the job...if it does not just switch.
You can still find some bleaches in tablets over here, but not largely as they used to and almost exclusively in institutional supply stores no more in household supplies and supermarkets/stores...
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Bleach ruin fabrics...no good to be used for "cleaning" in laundry to improve a crappy detergent and to do the job that it does not *but should*... I will never understand people using bleach in laundry as cleaner...detergent should do the job...if it does not just switch.
You can still find some bleaches in tablets over here, but not largely as they used to and almost exclusively in institutional supply stores no more in household supplies and supermarkets/stores...
http://www.dualpower.it/prodotti.asp?IDCategoria=4
http://www.ambientepulizia.it/cloro-tavolette-antibatterico-pastiglie-p-2937.html
http://www.rampi.it/cloropill.php
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we all have at one time or another, bought a product just because of celebrity status....then again, a lot of us like Mike Rowe alot, wrong forum to say how far one would go.....
some people are brand specific/loyalty, and you can't change them, just as you or I are set in our ways, would take a lot to convince us otherwise....
Fred, not sure about your side of the pond, and your too young to know of a time when cloth diapers were used, hot water and detergent alone will not get them clean, white, and disinfected.....bleaching and blueing was a part of our laundry process....and there are certain stains, that only bleach will remove....and is safe to use, as directed.....some go overboard with it....no matter what comes out on the market as new stuff to clean with, we always return to the basics with time proven results, bleach just happens to be one of them....but as with anything, some people like it, others don't.....what ever floats your boat....
some people are brand specific/loyalty, and you can't change them, just as you or I are set in our ways, would take a lot to convince us otherwise....
Fred, not sure about your side of the pond, and your too young to know of a time when cloth diapers were used, hot water and detergent alone will not get them clean, white, and disinfected.....bleaching and blueing was a part of our laundry process....and there are certain stains, that only bleach will remove....and is safe to use, as directed.....some go overboard with it....no matter what comes out on the market as new stuff to clean with, we always return to the basics with time proven results, bleach just happens to be one of them....but as with anything, some people like it, others don't.....what ever floats your boat....
Chlorine Bleach in laundry
It's funny how laundry differs the world over.
In the UK we don't do it. We don't have a chlorine bleach on the market sold for use with laundry/in washing machines, don't have bleach dispensers in our machines and chlorine bleach is not with laundry detergents in the store - they are with the cleaning products as we use it for cleaning kitchens/bathrooms.
So as said, we don't do it - sure if you wanted to, you can chuck some thin bleach in your machine, but most don't and most washers advise you not to in the manuals.
I'm not sure about days gone by when we used to use cloth nappies (diapers)
What stains can you not get out without bleach Yogi? (Genuine question as I can't ever remember not getting a stain out just using normal detergent).
It's funny how laundry differs the world over.
In the UK we don't do it. We don't have a chlorine bleach on the market sold for use with laundry/in washing machines, don't have bleach dispensers in our machines and chlorine bleach is not with laundry detergents in the store - they are with the cleaning products as we use it for cleaning kitchens/bathrooms.
So as said, we don't do it - sure if you wanted to, you can chuck some thin bleach in your machine, but most don't and most washers advise you not to in the manuals.
I'm not sure about days gone by when we used to use cloth nappies (diapers)
What stains can you not get out without bleach Yogi? (Genuine question as I can't ever remember not getting a stain out just using normal detergent).
danemodsandy
Well-known member
Bleach in America:
Fred:
You have to understand that chlorine bleach is viewed differently here than in Europe.
It has been the standard for bleaching here for decades; most people are familiar with it and find it easy to use. It also disinfects, although disposable diapers (nappies) make that less necessary than it used to be, when laundering cloth diapers was made much easier by it.
It is entirely possible to get equal results with oxygen bleaches, but for certain stains, like the ones in diapers, an enzyme product is needed to remove the stain completely. Most Americans don't know as much about using oxygen bleaches as they know about chlorine ones, so chlorine remains the standard here.
That having been said, there are people here who do use oxygen bleaches, very effectively. I like them and use them; I seldom use chlorine bleach any more unless disinfecting is needed for some reason, and that is rare in my house.
Fred:
You have to understand that chlorine bleach is viewed differently here than in Europe.
It has been the standard for bleaching here for decades; most people are familiar with it and find it easy to use. It also disinfects, although disposable diapers (nappies) make that less necessary than it used to be, when laundering cloth diapers was made much easier by it.
It is entirely possible to get equal results with oxygen bleaches, but for certain stains, like the ones in diapers, an enzyme product is needed to remove the stain completely. Most Americans don't know as much about using oxygen bleaches as they know about chlorine ones, so chlorine remains the standard here.
That having been said, there are people here who do use oxygen bleaches, very effectively. I like them and use them; I seldom use chlorine bleach any more unless disinfecting is needed for some reason, and that is rare in my house.
danemodsandy
Well-known member
Liam:
The poo stain in diapers is the one that has traditionally made American housewives turn to chlorine bleach; detergents alone usually won't remove it all, and oxygen bleach usually doesn't get it all either.
It has only been since the late '60s that enzyme detergents (like Ariel on your side of the pond - BIZ over here) have made it possible to remove that stain without resort to chlorine bleach.
The poo stain in diapers is the one that has traditionally made American housewives turn to chlorine bleach; detergents alone usually won't remove it all, and oxygen bleach usually doesn't get it all either.
It has only been since the late '60s that enzyme detergents (like Ariel on your side of the pond - BIZ over here) have made it possible to remove that stain without resort to chlorine bleach.
mich
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Martin
I really, am not trying to be mean here, but, from my limited hearings of the tales of Cloth Diapers, I really wouldn't suggest using Chlorine Bleach on them.
I'd soak them in a Hydrogen Peroxide or Oxygen Additive overnight, in Hot Water to disinfect, and whiten.. and rinse thoroughly.
I really, am not trying to be mean here, but, from my limited hearings of the tales of Cloth Diapers, I really wouldn't suggest using Chlorine Bleach on them.
I'd soak them in a Hydrogen Peroxide or Oxygen Additive overnight, in Hot Water to disinfect, and whiten.. and rinse thoroughly.
no offense taken....its just been a standard for most....if you had a "White" load, the formula was detergent, hot water and bleach, and that was the only way many of us were taught to get things clean....it wasn't a concern for fabric damage, it was to just get them clean, white and disinfected....and for many, still the standard for today....
it was the late 60's into the 70's when enzyme soaks and color safe bleaches were introduced.....but they were still not as strong to get whites sparkling as chlorine bleach did.....
with bleach you could watch the stain disappear in seconds in front of your eyes....
and there are times, or stains, on surfaces or clothing, that I feel better knowing they are bleached away....A - for thorough cleaning, and B - disinfection....I won't take chances using anything less
it was the late 60's into the 70's when enzyme soaks and color safe bleaches were introduced.....but they were still not as strong to get whites sparkling as chlorine bleach did.....
with bleach you could watch the stain disappear in seconds in front of your eyes....
and there are times, or stains, on surfaces or clothing, that I feel better knowing they are bleached away....A - for thorough cleaning, and B - disinfection....I won't take chances using anything less
kenmoreguy89
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Points of view.....
I would disagree in what you said regarding diapers...even here lots of people used and still use cloth diapers, my granma used cloth diapers for my father, my friend choosed to use cloth diapers for her twins to save like many others are doing over here, but speaking of the past like many other people, my granma said never had the need to use chlorine that much nor she remember she did for her younger sisters when helping her mother washing their diapers in the 30s (she was the older sister of many ones), like others my Great grandmorher and granma were well aware that chlorine ruined clothes no matter if you follow the directions, in the long run it does, she would rather try different ways, so higher temperatures/boiling, soaking for days etc, and just in a few occasions she said used to use chlorine bleach, even in the times of lye soap and lye in wash tubs they rather preferred using lye than bleach to get stuff "bleached" (even if lye would have had simlar devasant effect in the long run, probably weaker than bleach though), bleach and bluing as a routine were not common, bluing was used occasionally (she said it that in 40s and 50s it was more a fashion rather than an actual need) and that most of the times a good soap made the job of keeping whites white and clean (in some areas they still used ashes and lye even in the 50s)... so even in old days without machines other methods of bleaching than chlorine were preferentally used, they just avoided it and found other ways to do it the most possible, and when possible, because of this well-know fact that bleach ruins clothes...
But bleach has always been a known counterpart of laundry...and in some occasions it was needed as you say...but not always and in modern days (60s to present) someway less but keep being a must for some ...
Bleach has always been considered a laundry counterpart here too...otherwise P&G chlorine bleach Ace would not exist, and the Ace bleach old lady is an "icon" in Italy even from the non-bleach users....
As you say there're people who would use it, others simply don't...this is both here and in the USA of course...some just relies on detergents to get the job of "cleaning" and bleaching that a detergent is supposed to do( meant as stains and yellowed whites) and with even better results in some cases....
Others indeed are: "Gimme bleach gimme bleach" people...
Me I am one of those that gets brilliant results without, and that would never use it as I thnk a detergent does, would and should do it's job,...others says they absolutely need it for about every white load which has some stains..
Of course bleach would get stains out and so bleach dingy/yellowed laundry and it's proven it do so...but like it, and as I say again I think good detergents and a good wash as it should be, would do the same job, and without ruining/damaging "eating" textiles that chlorine does (in the long run), no matter new or older detergents as long as they're good ones, they just do it and always did for me... so here is what I mean when I keep saying that I don't and think never will understand how certain people keep needing bleach and can't get the same results with detergents as I do and many others does ......
I have no explanation for it...probably has something to do with water temperature these people use or cycles used or as I think the fact that they keep using crappy products and just does look to use better ones..who knows?
I would need to bleach too if I'd use crappy products... I just look for products that do the job they're supposed to do...bleach is supposed to remove stains, detergent also...so why you need chlorine bleach to remove them? Let it do to the detergent, if it's good will and should do so as it is supposed to!
Detergents are meant to remove stains, dirt and get stuff clean white, have inside oxy stuff, enzymes and some OBS and whenever there're not these ingredients in it there are additives..so why there're people keep using chlorine and have their stuff eaten so quickly bi it? That's what I dont get!
This does not make sense.. I think it's because they can't launder properly or keep choosing bad products....
Regarding celebrities status, I don't usually like buying something because of celebrity status, but I fully understand your speech...never discussed this of the character..I just said it is weird that a detergents comes with name of a Tv program, I don't get/like it was marketed kinda "I can clean the Mike Rowe's dirty jobs stuff"..others just does the same way ..but I understand the celebrity status thing and that one would buy it because like him and there is his face on the package...marketng is all about it...it's the same reason why they use famous characters for advertising..
Then
I just expressed my opinion about his program, other would agree or disagree, it stops here for me, never thought I'd have started a polemic with my statement, you know points of view, is like if I would say you that I like who knows, Andrew Zimmern's TV program and you'd say that you think he is a filthy "swine" and his is a nasty program.
I personally like it because it shows many diverse cultures through the food, maybe you would not get the fact of the diverse cultures because you're not interested about, so you'd just see the nasty side...
I think probably I don't see whatever there is of nice in "Dirty-jobs" and what I see is just a clumsy man pretending to do what other hard working people do every day for serious, this showing it with a sarcastic note, almost teasing them for what they do for living ...
I'm sure it must have positive sides, unfortunately I just get the "silly" one...
I would disagree in what you said regarding diapers...even here lots of people used and still use cloth diapers, my granma used cloth diapers for my father, my friend choosed to use cloth diapers for her twins to save like many others are doing over here, but speaking of the past like many other people, my granma said never had the need to use chlorine that much nor she remember she did for her younger sisters when helping her mother washing their diapers in the 30s (she was the older sister of many ones), like others my Great grandmorher and granma were well aware that chlorine ruined clothes no matter if you follow the directions, in the long run it does, she would rather try different ways, so higher temperatures/boiling, soaking for days etc, and just in a few occasions she said used to use chlorine bleach, even in the times of lye soap and lye in wash tubs they rather preferred using lye than bleach to get stuff "bleached" (even if lye would have had simlar devasant effect in the long run, probably weaker than bleach though), bleach and bluing as a routine were not common, bluing was used occasionally (she said it that in 40s and 50s it was more a fashion rather than an actual need) and that most of the times a good soap made the job of keeping whites white and clean (in some areas they still used ashes and lye even in the 50s)... so even in old days without machines other methods of bleaching than chlorine were preferentally used, they just avoided it and found other ways to do it the most possible, and when possible, because of this well-know fact that bleach ruins clothes...
But bleach has always been a known counterpart of laundry...and in some occasions it was needed as you say...but not always and in modern days (60s to present) someway less but keep being a must for some ...
Bleach has always been considered a laundry counterpart here too...otherwise P&G chlorine bleach Ace would not exist, and the Ace bleach old lady is an "icon" in Italy even from the non-bleach users....
As you say there're people who would use it, others simply don't...this is both here and in the USA of course...some just relies on detergents to get the job of "cleaning" and bleaching that a detergent is supposed to do( meant as stains and yellowed whites) and with even better results in some cases....
Others indeed are: "Gimme bleach gimme bleach" people...
Me I am one of those that gets brilliant results without, and that would never use it as I thnk a detergent does, would and should do it's job,...others says they absolutely need it for about every white load which has some stains..
Of course bleach would get stains out and so bleach dingy/yellowed laundry and it's proven it do so...but like it, and as I say again I think good detergents and a good wash as it should be, would do the same job, and without ruining/damaging "eating" textiles that chlorine does (in the long run), no matter new or older detergents as long as they're good ones, they just do it and always did for me... so here is what I mean when I keep saying that I don't and think never will understand how certain people keep needing bleach and can't get the same results with detergents as I do and many others does ......
I have no explanation for it...probably has something to do with water temperature these people use or cycles used or as I think the fact that they keep using crappy products and just does look to use better ones..who knows?
I would need to bleach too if I'd use crappy products... I just look for products that do the job they're supposed to do...bleach is supposed to remove stains, detergent also...so why you need chlorine bleach to remove them? Let it do to the detergent, if it's good will and should do so as it is supposed to!
Detergents are meant to remove stains, dirt and get stuff clean white, have inside oxy stuff, enzymes and some OBS and whenever there're not these ingredients in it there are additives..so why there're people keep using chlorine and have their stuff eaten so quickly bi it? That's what I dont get!
This does not make sense.. I think it's because they can't launder properly or keep choosing bad products....
Regarding celebrities status, I don't usually like buying something because of celebrity status, but I fully understand your speech...never discussed this of the character..I just said it is weird that a detergents comes with name of a Tv program, I don't get/like it was marketed kinda "I can clean the Mike Rowe's dirty jobs stuff"..others just does the same way ..but I understand the celebrity status thing and that one would buy it because like him and there is his face on the package...marketng is all about it...it's the same reason why they use famous characters for advertising..
Then
I just expressed my opinion about his program, other would agree or disagree, it stops here for me, never thought I'd have started a polemic with my statement, you know points of view, is like if I would say you that I like who knows, Andrew Zimmern's TV program and you'd say that you think he is a filthy "swine" and his is a nasty program.
I personally like it because it shows many diverse cultures through the food, maybe you would not get the fact of the diverse cultures because you're not interested about, so you'd just see the nasty side...
I think probably I don't see whatever there is of nice in "Dirty-jobs" and what I see is just a clumsy man pretending to do what other hard working people do every day for serious, this showing it with a sarcastic note, almost teasing them for what they do for living ...
I'm sure it must have positive sides, unfortunately I just get the "silly" one...
kenmoreguy89
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Wow! The speech went ahead and didn't even notice of it! Last post I left before starting writing was still first Martin's response! LOL
iheartmaytag
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Oh Goodie
It's the bleach debate again.
Here's where I stand:
Chlorine is your friend. Cholera is not.
Chlorine is a safe disinfectant, It is a powerful oxidizer hence it's bleaching power. It is safe and has been used so for many, many, many years. Yes there are other alternatives in use now that is good. In the olden days of wringer washers lye soap, bleach and blueing was all you needed.
If someone was sick, bleach. If a stain wouldn't come out, bleach. If you wanted the house to have that clean just disinfected smell, bleach.
My mother now in her 80's has accidents now. Wash, after wash of her underthings and towels there was still the lingering smell of urine. 1/4 cup, that's it 1/4 cup of good ole Chlorox in the first rinse of the front loader. Everything comes out clean and smelling fresh and I have yet to have a machine disintegrate because of it's use, and chlorine is not any harder on fabric than oxygen bleaching agents. If used sparingly and correctly.
Though some are now going to salt water systems, most wouldn't even dream of getting into a pool without chlorine. Especially with the rise of the brain eating amoebas. Same goes for municipal water sources, with safe water supplies chlorine is your friend once again.
Good cure, or actually a preventative from getting poison ivy, wash areas that came in contact with a mild solution of bleach. I'm not saying half the bottle, mild like a 5% solution.
Now no more bad mouthing this hard working, non occuring in nature chemical (neither does Triclosan) but bleach won't turn your nuts into jelly, cause you to grow breast and develop a resistant strain of gonorrhea.
I'm so glad when the weekly, why does anyone use bleach topic comes up. Now tomorrow's topic is the Front loader vs Top loader debate. Then Thursday gas vs electric.
Sorry Yogi, didn't mean to hijack. I'm not sure If I would use the tablet form. I have seen the dirty jobs bucket but never paid it much attention. I was buying bleach. It could, however, be used to launch a Hot/Warm/Cold debate.
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It's the bleach debate again.
Here's where I stand:
Chlorine is your friend. Cholera is not.
Chlorine is a safe disinfectant, It is a powerful oxidizer hence it's bleaching power. It is safe and has been used so for many, many, many years. Yes there are other alternatives in use now that is good. In the olden days of wringer washers lye soap, bleach and blueing was all you needed.
If someone was sick, bleach. If a stain wouldn't come out, bleach. If you wanted the house to have that clean just disinfected smell, bleach.
My mother now in her 80's has accidents now. Wash, after wash of her underthings and towels there was still the lingering smell of urine. 1/4 cup, that's it 1/4 cup of good ole Chlorox in the first rinse of the front loader. Everything comes out clean and smelling fresh and I have yet to have a machine disintegrate because of it's use, and chlorine is not any harder on fabric than oxygen bleaching agents. If used sparingly and correctly.
Though some are now going to salt water systems, most wouldn't even dream of getting into a pool without chlorine. Especially with the rise of the brain eating amoebas. Same goes for municipal water sources, with safe water supplies chlorine is your friend once again.
Good cure, or actually a preventative from getting poison ivy, wash areas that came in contact with a mild solution of bleach. I'm not saying half the bottle, mild like a 5% solution.
Now no more bad mouthing this hard working, non occuring in nature chemical (neither does Triclosan) but bleach won't turn your nuts into jelly, cause you to grow breast and develop a resistant strain of gonorrhea.
I'm so glad when the weekly, why does anyone use bleach topic comes up. Now tomorrow's topic is the Front loader vs Top loader debate. Then Thursday gas vs electric.
Sorry Yogi, didn't mean to hijack. I'm not sure If I would use the tablet form. I have seen the dirty jobs bucket but never paid it much attention. I was buying bleach. It could, however, be used to launch a Hot/Warm/Cold debate.
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danemodsandy
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All I Will Say Is:
(And this is indelicate)
1) Have an accident in your pants - Number Two, not Number One.
2) Now, try to get it out with detergent alone.
3) Then try to get it out with an oxygen bleach.
4) Finally, reach for the Clorox and git 'er done.
You can get the same result with BIZ. But - check the price on that stuff out sometime, then check the price of bleach.
(And this is indelicate)
1) Have an accident in your pants - Number Two, not Number One.
2) Now, try to get it out with detergent alone.
3) Then try to get it out with an oxygen bleach.
4) Finally, reach for the Clorox and git 'er done.
You can get the same result with BIZ. But - check the price on that stuff out sometime, then check the price of bleach.
<span style="font-size: medium;">Chlorine bleach, "Lejia" is widely used in Spain for the wash. I always use Neutrex to keep hubbies tighty-whities extra bright. Very cool idea about chlorine tablets, will give those a try. </span>
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Where is Laundress? She needs to be in on this!
Dear are you there ? Well, until she drops by...
I'd have to say that anything cleans best in hot, or warm water, providing the fabric can stand it. (Dirty Jobs Detergent)
So if I had to wash some of Mike Rowe's dirty clothes, ( Wouldn't be the worst thing that I've had to do) I'd be using hot water, unless it was blood or something.
As for the cloth diapers, if memory serves...seems like they got a overnight soak in warm water with a little Borax, then spun, or through the wringer, washed in hot water, and yes Clorox the last 5 min
(or Clorox used in the second rinse) Rinsed twice in warm, then finally in cold. ( rinsing is very important with diapers )
Once in a while they get boiled (stripped) just to make sure there wasn't any detergent, or soap residue.
It wasn't a big deal if they got ruined, they just became burping clothes, window cleaning rags, dust cloths, ect.
Let us know if anyone tries the Dirty Jobs detergent, or the bleach tabs! Or, if Mike Rowe drops by for a visit.
Dear are you there ? Well, until she drops by...
I'd have to say that anything cleans best in hot, or warm water, providing the fabric can stand it. (Dirty Jobs Detergent)
So if I had to wash some of Mike Rowe's dirty clothes, ( Wouldn't be the worst thing that I've had to do) I'd be using hot water, unless it was blood or something.
As for the cloth diapers, if memory serves...seems like they got a overnight soak in warm water with a little Borax, then spun, or through the wringer, washed in hot water, and yes Clorox the last 5 min
(or Clorox used in the second rinse) Rinsed twice in warm, then finally in cold. ( rinsing is very important with diapers )
Once in a while they get boiled (stripped) just to make sure there wasn't any detergent, or soap residue.
It wasn't a big deal if they got ruined, they just became burping clothes, window cleaning rags, dust cloths, ect.
Let us know if anyone tries the Dirty Jobs detergent, or the bleach tabs! Or, if Mike Rowe drops by for a visit.
I'd wash anything from Mike Rowe.
<span style="font-size: medium;"> Hell, I'd wash Mike Rowe.</span>
<span style="font-size: medium;"> Hell, I'd wash Mike Rowe.</span>
oh!...a heated debate!
mention Bleach, and they all start to shake....chill out...lol
but there's a good question, statement, or answer....PRICE!.....you could take the cheapest detergent, let's say Tandil brand from ALDI, and their bleach.....and have the whitest whites in an instant.....for minimal cost compared to some of this other stuff out there....even in COLD water if needed!
every new product compares itself to bleach, but none surpass it!....guaranteed clean versus cost!.......plus a list of ingredients you can't pronounce, not to mention where they came from.....as I recall, Bleach is made from Salt Water....I know what that is, where it comes from, how to spell and pronounce it, and all natural from the earth....and returns back to salt water after its use!....
not to mention it gives me the greenest freakin grass on the whole block!...I bet your Oxiclean can't do that!
you would have to use a heck of a lot of bleach, or pour it directly on the item for major damage to occur.....your clothing is falling apart the second you turn on the washer, even without bleach.....where do you think all the lint in the dryer comes from?....
you do have my interest on one thing.....Mike Rowe, wether its washing his clothes, or anything else of his, you will get NO complaints from me!...he ain't no girly man!....(Don't Mess with my MAN!)
mention Bleach, and they all start to shake....chill out...lol
but there's a good question, statement, or answer....PRICE!.....you could take the cheapest detergent, let's say Tandil brand from ALDI, and their bleach.....and have the whitest whites in an instant.....for minimal cost compared to some of this other stuff out there....even in COLD water if needed!
every new product compares itself to bleach, but none surpass it!....guaranteed clean versus cost!.......plus a list of ingredients you can't pronounce, not to mention where they came from.....as I recall, Bleach is made from Salt Water....I know what that is, where it comes from, how to spell and pronounce it, and all natural from the earth....and returns back to salt water after its use!....
not to mention it gives me the greenest freakin grass on the whole block!...I bet your Oxiclean can't do that!
you would have to use a heck of a lot of bleach, or pour it directly on the item for major damage to occur.....your clothing is falling apart the second you turn on the washer, even without bleach.....where do you think all the lint in the dryer comes from?....
you do have my interest on one thing.....Mike Rowe, wether its washing his clothes, or anything else of his, you will get NO complaints from me!...he ain't no girly man!....(Don't Mess with my MAN!)
I met him once
In Calistoga when he was filming a show here. I didn't offer to do his laundry.
So it all yours Martian LOL
(He's better looking in person)
In Calistoga when he was filming a show here. I didn't offer to do his laundry.
So it all yours Martian LOL
(He's better looking in person)
A few points on chlorine bleach:
1. Bleach for laundry on the American market isn't very strong. The bleach I can buy overhere in the Netherlands is a concentrated bleach. It's much thicker than for instance Chlorox. Use a cup of Dutch bleach on a load of laundry and you can see how it damaged the laundry after one wash.
2. In contrary to the USA boiling laundry was common and for some people still is. Diapers were rinsed and then put in the washing machine. A warm prewash with an enzyme detergent and a boilwash with a detergent with oxygen bleach did the job very well. No need to use bleach to sanatize the diapers.
1. Bleach for laundry on the American market isn't very strong. The bleach I can buy overhere in the Netherlands is a concentrated bleach. It's much thicker than for instance Chlorox. Use a cup of Dutch bleach on a load of laundry and you can see how it damaged the laundry after one wash.
2. In contrary to the USA boiling laundry was common and for some people still is. Diapers were rinsed and then put in the washing machine. A warm prewash with an enzyme detergent and a boilwash with a detergent with oxygen bleach did the job very well. No need to use bleach to sanatize the diapers.
hoovermatic
Well-known member
My mother used terry nappies on all of us and would never have dreamt of using bleach on them. Soaked and then given a boil wash in Persil (which would have been a soap powder in the early/mid 1960's) and they were as white as snow AND soft, without the use of any softener (which I don't think was even available then). I see that the increase in use of low teperature washing now requires (according to the advertisers) the use of additional chemicals. Surely it's cheaper to turn up the temperature!!
http://www.thegrocer.co.uk/fmcg/dettol-launches-antibacterial-laundry-cleanser/348905.article
http://www.thegrocer.co.uk/fmcg/dettol-launches-antibacterial-laundry-cleanser/348905.article
Bleach tablets & Use of Bleach
Over here Lidl supermarket used to sell for a period of time the Bleach tablets.
But they were just part of an temporary offer.
I bought one pack and I've used a couple of tablets to clean the drain of my sink and shower.
Here in Slovenia Bleach is not part of doing laundy. We have only one producer of Bleach and it comes in 1/2 Liter (0,13 gallon) or maximum 1 Liter (0,26 gallon).
It is sold near the drain cleaner and other toilet cleaners or in paint stores. However on the package it is written also how to use it for whitening garments or as a remedy for tough stains. It is also relatively expensive!
I use it to clean the toilet bowl overnight.
My diapers were washed the same way as foraloysius said.
Over here Lidl supermarket used to sell for a period of time the Bleach tablets.
But they were just part of an temporary offer.
I bought one pack and I've used a couple of tablets to clean the drain of my sink and shower.
Here in Slovenia Bleach is not part of doing laundy. We have only one producer of Bleach and it comes in 1/2 Liter (0,13 gallon) or maximum 1 Liter (0,26 gallon).
It is sold near the drain cleaner and other toilet cleaners or in paint stores. However on the package it is written also how to use it for whitening garments or as a remedy for tough stains. It is also relatively expensive!
I use it to clean the toilet bowl overnight.
My diapers were washed the same way as foraloysius said.
kenmoreguy89
Well-known member
"1) Have an accident in your pants - Number Two, not Number One.
2) Now, try to get it out with detergent alone.
3) Then try to get it out with an oxygen bleach.
4) Finally, reach for the Clorox and git 'er done.
You can get the same result with BIZ. But - check the price on that stuff out sometime, then check the price of bleach."
Sandy, really? I mean that's the norm to get it done with detergent alone!
I can easily and do that with detergent and has not to be "TOL" nor expensive or something "out of ordinary", regular powder detergents....already did countless times while laundering pooed undies, bedding, towels and laundry for my senile aunt (that passed away 2 years ago)...I mean it's the norm..I find it odd havng to tell it..
Harley...
Urine odors after wash? If it is laundered correctly with a good detergent and machine it should not remain any odor, this since it would be really clean...but if odors is stll, it is not really clean and may likely be machine's fault also...never experienced any odors left, just using indeed a front loader.. I actually no wonder why of it..I already know...
I find odd that poo is considered a tough stain.....for me tough stains are others...like who knows? Tar? Not certainly poo! Just a regular silly stain....
It's this the kind of things I don't get....I would never put poo in the list of tough stains...
Regarding Spain, as in Italy bleaches are sold and used in laundry just not that much largely, and just by some, different matter for household cleaning, Spain and Italy it's all about the same regrdless bleach in laundry use, things changes in other EU countries like Germany and UK....where you have very very few people that does..
In Italy:
Some use it, most don't....
Of course bleach eliminates stains...unless they're not dye ones a detergent would and should just do just the same if it's good, and good ones have not to be necesserly expensive at all... and in case detergent you're using is bad there're always the additves, color safe bleaches and oxy and enzimatic stuff even for 80 cents a box (Sun bleach powder, Blast additive from 99 cent only shop etc...) and valid detergents for a trifle the same way that would do alone as they should...
There're people that just use chlorine wnenever they have some stains......like if it is the only thing for it..they don't have the conception of detergent that is the one that should and would be able to do this..what's for then?
Cleaning, bleaching, disinfection....are things you can get with detergents too and in differnt ways and in some cases even with far better results... I mean for many it's the norm..for me also..
So some reach it, some says they don't , or just think and are convinced a priori that would not, considering the bleach, as the only one thing able to... that's an odd mistery to my eyes...again..I think that's because they can't do laundry properly or do it in a different way ( wrong crappy products, colder water, wrong cycles etc)way that I would define bad..worse... absurd to my eyes..
But again, same speech as before...still aghast for this.
Points of view.....finds and thougts...
I can get chlorine is cheaper and that it works, not saying this, it's been so and well known for centuries...but like it, it is well known that it ruin clothes...
That's the same reasons why bleaches advetisement (at least ones over here) only talk about torn clothes and fact their bleaches do not do that, an example is the new Ace-"salvafibra"-"fiber-saver" they says they got a new thing inside that avoids it, like on the other hand they used to say the same thing in the 80s, 90s..every brand says that their own bleach does not ruin clothes like the others do(ACTUALLY they all do and will keep ruining your clothes like every bleach does and will always do)...
You see it in the Neutrex Lejia commercial, you see it in Ace italian and spanish ones, you see it written in every bottle of bleach of different brands...
Chlorine do the job, for slightly less money maybe, but the same way good detergents does... but bleach eats your laundry, detergents don't...and Martin, machines does not ruin laundry and the speech about lint has nothing to do with.. I'm of a different opinion..
But again opinions...you say your is right, I say mine is right...
So one just have to follow the way find to be the best for him...
Opinions....that's all about we're talking about...
You can arrive nowhere....
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2) Now, try to get it out with detergent alone.
3) Then try to get it out with an oxygen bleach.
4) Finally, reach for the Clorox and git 'er done.
You can get the same result with BIZ. But - check the price on that stuff out sometime, then check the price of bleach."
Sandy, really? I mean that's the norm to get it done with detergent alone!
I can easily and do that with detergent and has not to be "TOL" nor expensive or something "out of ordinary", regular powder detergents....already did countless times while laundering pooed undies, bedding, towels and laundry for my senile aunt (that passed away 2 years ago)...I mean it's the norm..I find it odd havng to tell it..
Harley...
Urine odors after wash? If it is laundered correctly with a good detergent and machine it should not remain any odor, this since it would be really clean...but if odors is stll, it is not really clean and may likely be machine's fault also...never experienced any odors left, just using indeed a front loader.. I actually no wonder why of it..I already know...
I find odd that poo is considered a tough stain.....for me tough stains are others...like who knows? Tar? Not certainly poo! Just a regular silly stain....
It's this the kind of things I don't get....I would never put poo in the list of tough stains...
Regarding Spain, as in Italy bleaches are sold and used in laundry just not that much largely, and just by some, different matter for household cleaning, Spain and Italy it's all about the same regrdless bleach in laundry use, things changes in other EU countries like Germany and UK....where you have very very few people that does..
In Italy:
Some use it, most don't....
Of course bleach eliminates stains...unless they're not dye ones a detergent would and should just do just the same if it's good, and good ones have not to be necesserly expensive at all... and in case detergent you're using is bad there're always the additves, color safe bleaches and oxy and enzimatic stuff even for 80 cents a box (Sun bleach powder, Blast additive from 99 cent only shop etc...) and valid detergents for a trifle the same way that would do alone as they should...
There're people that just use chlorine wnenever they have some stains......like if it is the only thing for it..they don't have the conception of detergent that is the one that should and would be able to do this..what's for then?
Cleaning, bleaching, disinfection....are things you can get with detergents too and in differnt ways and in some cases even with far better results... I mean for many it's the norm..for me also..
So some reach it, some says they don't , or just think and are convinced a priori that would not, considering the bleach, as the only one thing able to... that's an odd mistery to my eyes...again..I think that's because they can't do laundry properly or do it in a different way ( wrong crappy products, colder water, wrong cycles etc)way that I would define bad..worse... absurd to my eyes..
But again, same speech as before...still aghast for this.
Points of view.....finds and thougts...
I can get chlorine is cheaper and that it works, not saying this, it's been so and well known for centuries...but like it, it is well known that it ruin clothes...
That's the same reasons why bleaches advetisement (at least ones over here) only talk about torn clothes and fact their bleaches do not do that, an example is the new Ace-"salvafibra"-"fiber-saver" they says they got a new thing inside that avoids it, like on the other hand they used to say the same thing in the 80s, 90s..every brand says that their own bleach does not ruin clothes like the others do(ACTUALLY they all do and will keep ruining your clothes like every bleach does and will always do)...
You see it in the Neutrex Lejia commercial, you see it in Ace italian and spanish ones, you see it written in every bottle of bleach of different brands...
Chlorine do the job, for slightly less money maybe, but the same way good detergents does... but bleach eats your laundry, detergents don't...and Martin, machines does not ruin laundry and the speech about lint has nothing to do with.. I'm of a different opinion..
But again opinions...you say your is right, I say mine is right...
So one just have to follow the way find to be the best for him...
Opinions....that's all about we're talking about...
You can arrive nowhere....
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kenmoreguy89
Well-known member
Louis, even in the USA they used to boil laundry.....
"Louis, even in the USA they used to boil laundry....."
Yes, but that was many moons ago. I was thinking of when I was young and my mother washed my younger brother's diapers. Her Bosch washing machine, Biotex enzyme detergent and Dixan for the mainwash got them sparkling white!
Here's a picture of such a Bosch.
Yes, but that was many moons ago. I was thinking of when I was young and my mother washed my younger brother's diapers. Her Bosch washing machine, Biotex enzyme detergent and Dixan for the mainwash got them sparkling white!
Here's a picture of such a Bosch.
kenmoreguy89
Well-known member
I know that even in the 60s if boiling was needed they used to...not so many moons..
Right.... in the USA with the advent of washing machines, wringer or whatever the most never boiled anymore, machines didn't have heaters to boil and it was not needed to...they just used very hot water, like it should be..as far as I know, they didn't need to boil as laundry would have got clean anyway...
The practice of boiling was done then almost exclusively by those hand laundering....because it was easier and saved lots of efforts for clean results that otherwise you had to reach by hand...(mechanical action) days long soaks etc, unsustainable to do for the most and unreachable for some..
If boiling was not possible then chlorine bleaching found it's use...but not always..
Machines in europe kept the practice of boiling, or almost boiling reach point temperatures (different types of machnes indeed)...in europe it remained indeed a "custom", even if few nowadays would do so...elsewhere like USA it has been totally lost as no longer needed, this since lots of years, they didn't need boiling 95°c 100°c washes anymore, but of course they still needed hot (60°c-80°c) washes, the same is today..
Then leave alone that in US some (younger people) would not use enough hot water on purpose for some reasons almost ignoring that you can launder with water hotter than 40°c, others indeed had to go with the too low hot water grade their crappy heater reached (way lower as long as they get older)...till modern days when there're people with heaters producing water barely hot..kinda warm..
Looks like good practice of hot washes for some americans is Science fiction nowadays...not for all...nor I think for the most...
But then I see why some people need chlorine bleach to get their laundry white and clean, even more if they use crappy products....but it's cause of a bad attitude at washing also, an attitude that as I said is way more common as we go ahead in the time....
I know of many americans with common sense still seing and understanding the importance of water temperatures as a key factor...again, I think the most...
But there're even some that would put bleach on every stained white load...ignoring there're other safer ways and products(including of course detergents alone) that would and do it done the same way..
It's easier grab a bottle of bleach than having your water heater heating properly, it's easier to put bleach instead of changng your crappy detergent for something that actually works..
But your clothes won't thank you!
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Right.... in the USA with the advent of washing machines, wringer or whatever the most never boiled anymore, machines didn't have heaters to boil and it was not needed to...they just used very hot water, like it should be..as far as I know, they didn't need to boil as laundry would have got clean anyway...
The practice of boiling was done then almost exclusively by those hand laundering....because it was easier and saved lots of efforts for clean results that otherwise you had to reach by hand...(mechanical action) days long soaks etc, unsustainable to do for the most and unreachable for some..
If boiling was not possible then chlorine bleaching found it's use...but not always..
Machines in europe kept the practice of boiling, or almost boiling reach point temperatures (different types of machnes indeed)...in europe it remained indeed a "custom", even if few nowadays would do so...elsewhere like USA it has been totally lost as no longer needed, this since lots of years, they didn't need boiling 95°c 100°c washes anymore, but of course they still needed hot (60°c-80°c) washes, the same is today..
Then leave alone that in US some (younger people) would not use enough hot water on purpose for some reasons almost ignoring that you can launder with water hotter than 40°c, others indeed had to go with the too low hot water grade their crappy heater reached (way lower as long as they get older)...till modern days when there're people with heaters producing water barely hot..kinda warm..
Looks like good practice of hot washes for some americans is Science fiction nowadays...not for all...nor I think for the most...
But then I see why some people need chlorine bleach to get their laundry white and clean, even more if they use crappy products....but it's cause of a bad attitude at washing also, an attitude that as I said is way more common as we go ahead in the time....
I know of many americans with common sense still seing and understanding the importance of water temperatures as a key factor...again, I think the most...
But there're even some that would put bleach on every stained white load...ignoring there're other safer ways and products(including of course detergents alone) that would and do it done the same way..
It's easier grab a bottle of bleach than having your water heater heating properly, it's easier to put bleach instead of changng your crappy detergent for something that actually works..
But your clothes won't thank you!
[this post was last edited: 9/18/2013-08:34]
iheartmaytag
Well-known member
"It's easier grab a bottle of bleach than having your water heater heating properly, it's easier to put bleach instead of changing your crappy detergent for something that actually works.."
The makers of Tide will be glad to get your review.
Dear Laundress: Will you be chiming in? Your opinion and expertise is expected.
The makers of Tide will be glad to get your review.
Dear Laundress: Will you be chiming in? Your opinion and expertise is expected.
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