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These are my top favorite detergents. For powder, Tide Original and Kirkland. For liquid, Tide Mountain Spring and Persil Proclean Deep Clean Intense Fresh. For stain removers, I like using the Spray n Wash and Oxiclean Odor Blasters. I use white distelled vinegar once in a while for sanitizing, I never use fabric softener. Whenever I do white clothes or white towels, I use bleach.
 
Even a gallon of bleach per month

Would have no effect on a properly functioning, septic system. And the advantage of bleach for keeping drains clean and extending the life of washing machines and reducing electricity consumption, or other advantages of just using a quarter cup of chlorine bleach, and a front load washer on a regular basis.

My house in the mountains has never had any work done to the septic system since 1965, there are two garbage disposals in that house that we use heavily and bleach and other cleaners also don’t seem to have any effect.

John
 
I had no problem with Kirkland HE powder I used once...only the entire box I bought the powder was really clumpy..I remember it smelled SO good. Right now I use Windfresh which is a cheap detergent but as long as the clothes are clean and fresh I'm fine with it. Mostly I will use pretreat to get stains anyway. and I learned on this forum to use a drop of dish soap for an oil stain and peroxide on a blood stain.

I'm glad this machine also has a "soak" cycle. I do use that cycle on mine a few times a year
 
Re #60

Since nobody else answered, and this is based on mine which is 6 or 7 years old by now, but the Delicate cycle does tumble slower.

There is one water level, to the lip of the tub and slightly spilling over into the boot, for both wash and rinse, on all cycles except Normal Eco, which I’ve never tried because it’s cold water. So, say you want to just wash a single stained shirt, it will fill up all the way and tumbling will be less than ideal — it will slosh in the water rather than rising up and dropping/slapping on the tub. I think the LGs and Samsungs and Whirlpools have a more sophisticated weighing system and in the case of one garment would use less water, but I could be wrong. And it’s nice how some brands fill much higher to rinse but the SQ does not. OTOH the SQ seems to use more water for washing than the others.

It doesn’t have recirculating, but the tumble vanes scoop up a lot of water and dump a very visible cascade of it on top of the load before it drops.

It lacks a spin spray, but when the spins between rinses start to coast to a stop and the water goes on to fill the tub for a rinse, the pump stays on for a half minute, which rinses spin suds off the outer surface of the drum and flushes suds out of the sump, which is nice.

Bulky, now presumaby Bedding, does nothing different to my eyes other than that medium spin is its default.

It balances and spins very smoothly and quietly compared to videos of other brands. But it effs up sometimes, particularly with loads of heavy towels or blankets. Mine has cabinet-banged and had no intention of stopping to re-balance, and it has slammed the tub into the glass door and almost broken it too. Very very rarely. And strangely most often on the final spin, which can be annoying. I wouldn’t run it while not at home.

No heater but hot water is tap hot with no dumbing down. Set it for a quick prewash and it will stay hot in the main wash.

Horizontal tub. Never tangles shirt sleeves or pants legs. Never gets pillow cases caught in fitted sheet pockets or one sheet balled up in the other.

Perfect machine? No. Best machine? I wouldn’t say that. Seems to me they all have their pros and cons. Am I happy with it? Yes. Would I buy another? Probably.
 
Re #60

Since nobody else answered, and this is based on mine which is 6 or 7 years old by now, but the Delicate cycle does tumble slower.

There is one water level, to the lip of the tub and slightly spilling over into the boot, for both wash and rinse, on all cycles except Normal Eco, which I’ve never tried because it’s cold water. So, say you want to just wash a single stained shirt, it will fill up all the way and tumbling will be less than ideal — it will slosh in the water rather than rising up and dropping/slapping on the tub. I think the LGs and Samsungs and Whirlpools have a more sophisticated weighing system and in the case of one garment would use less water, but I could be wrong. And it’s nice how some brands fill much higher to rinse but the SQ does not. OTOH the SQ seems to use more water for washing than the others.

It doesn’t have recirculating, but the tumble vanes scoop up a lot of water and dump a very visible cascade of it on top of the load before it drops.

It lacks a spin spray, but when the spins between rinses start to coast to a stop and the water goes on to fill the tub for a rinse, the pump stays on for a half minute, which rinses spin suds off the outer surface of the drum and flushes suds out of the sump, which is nice.

Bulky, now presumaby Bedding, does nothing different to my eyes other than that medium spin is its default.

It balances and spins very smoothly and quietly compared to videos of other brands. But it effs up sometimes, particularly with loads of heavy towels or blankets. Mine has cabinet-banged and had no intention of stopping to re-balance, and it has slammed the tub into the glass door and almost broken it too. Very very rarely. And strangely most often on the final spin, which can be annoying. I wouldn’t run it while not at home.

No heater but hot water is tap hot with no dumbing down. Set it for a quick prewash and it will stay hot in the main wash.

Horizontal tub. Never tangles shirt sleeves or pants legs. Never gets pillow cases caught in fitted sheet pockets or one sheet balled up in the other.

Perfect machine? No. Best machine? I wouldn’t say that. Seems to me they all have their pros and cons. Am I happy with it? Yes. Would I buy another? Probably.
 
SQ FL

I really like these machines! However, the lack of a built in heater ruins it for me. I have been pampered with one and I am not willing to give it up! Sanitize with Oxi is just a 'hot' wash with the added power of Sodium Percarbonate. However, if there is no bleach activator, it may not be enough to actually kill. So to ensure more bacteria, viruses, mold, etc. are killed, they increase the time significantly to allow for more time to work. 

Others have mentioned balancing and the horizontal tub. That is one thing I wish was more common. Our Duet loved to tangle items, especially when using Normal. Partial loads always balanced better than full loads. 

The tub flush and drain after interim spins is a very nice touch. That is still my biggest complaint about LG. Not enough draining occuring to remove the water used in the flush process. Ends up right back on the clothes. 

Keep us updated, please!
 
"sanitize with oxi"

Simply laundering textiles will "sanitize" them, adding chlorine or oxygen bleach will bring germ numbers down still further.

"Oxi" is not a regulated term nor word. It can mean whatever some clever chop in marketing decides it should in a consumer's mind.

For laundry appliances it's obvious SQ and others are playing with word association of "oxi" as in oxygen bleaches including "Oxiclean"
 
"It would be nice if Speed Queen added water recirculation.

Water recirculation for H-axis washers is more about using low water levels than anything else. If cycle in question uses enough water to get job done without having to recirculate with a pump it's all good.

There are some other benefits of recirculation sprays such as wetting down loads faster.

IIRC Zanussi washers in Europe were first to have recirculation spray systems (Jet System), am sure someone will correct if one is incorrect.

https://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?37766

On commercial side of things Unimac offers washers with spray systems.



 
Improvements

Saw a YT video of a new SQ FL.

Wow! The balancing routine has been greatly shortened with the end result as good or better. And it spins much longer and faster in between rinses.

Cool!

If there were a way I could download those changes onto the computer in mine, I would do it in a flash.
 
A quick update: The issue with the dryer turned out to be--as several of you mentioned--a blocked dryer vent in the wall. The SQ dealer replaced the black screen at the back of the drum with an unpainted galvanized one, but all the weird symptoms--a less than normal amount of lint in the tray; cabinet feeling hotter than it should during operation; lint deposited on the load; ineffective cooldown period at end of cycle--disappeared instantly when the landlord cleaned out the vent run that dumps out the south wall of the apt building.

Absolutely love the washer! No problems with out of balance loads despite all the less-than-capacity loads I tend to wash. The pedestals actually seem to help prevent walking, etc.
 
blocked dryer vents ... UGH.

In a perfect world all dryers in existence would vent straight out next to an outside wall.

Those videos above... The recirculation reminds me of the LG turbo wash... It's looks like they tumble faster than modern FL washers too..

I remember years ago someone on here (I think his name is Malcolm) bought a TOL SQ pair in stainless steel. He posted videos. I too remember not being blown away by those pulse short spins between rinses... But they were REALLY nice machines otherwise.
 
Someone posted a site that has every single Sears Catalog page. I looked up that Lady Kenmore in the video above. In 1969 Spring/Summer Catalog that washer/dryer Combo was $469.95. Do you know how much that would be today?? $3,941. My God..

 
Mark- SQ has tweaked the spins after the wash and first rinse. They spin fairly slowly, then gradually ramp up to a pretty fast spin--650 or higher, I'd say. I remember that the older versions' pulse spins were not very impressive. At any rate, the machine does a good job of spinning the water out of the clothes, now. The final spin behaves the same way, but winds up at 1200 rpm for the Normal, Heavy Duty, Whites and Quick cycles.

I've also abandoned pods altogether. Too much suds in the very soft water. I took two big containers of the 10X pods and a full jug of Persil to the local food shelf.

I use liquid Tide Ultra Stain Release, powdered Tide Ultra Oxi, powdered Amway SA8 (usually in conjunction with their color-safe powdered bleach) and tiny doses of Perwoll For Blacks for loads of black clothes. I'm a part time musician and wear all black quite often.
 
New Speed Queen front load, washer and dryer pair

Yay Eugene glad they got that figured out with the dryer vent, kind of surprised the installers didn’t discover that anytime I install a dryer or even work on one I always make sure the vent is moving good amount of air otherwise problems arise quickly, and people are not satisfied to say the least.

Monday this week I was working in a multi million dollar house in the dryer vent was completely clogged. It ran nearly 70 feet when they could’ve just gone through the front wall of the house but I guess somebody didn’t like the look of having a dryer vent on the front of this mansion ,

Told the property manager that either need to cut vent through the front of the wall or buy a nearly $2000 whirlpool full-size heat pump ventless dryer.

Whenever a customer asked me what the best new automatic washer is without reservation we recommend to Speed Queen front load washer, yes, there are machines with more bells and whistles and I love gadgets, etc. but if you’re looking for a machine that works really well and is unlikely to have problems and is repairable if you do, there’s nothing like a Speed Queen front load washer. It’s like the old days of Hobart built KitchenAid dishwashers. There was never an equal to those machines.

John
 

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