Congratulations Eugene! I know you’ll get lots of enjoyment from this new set.
Eddie
Eddie
New Speed Queen 7009 Front-Load Washer & Companion Dryer
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Yes Mark
It dispenses Clorox in the prewash or if none then in the main wash.
And yes the tub is stainless but it is not shiny chrome-like stainless. Instead it’s a very unusual earth tone shade, semi glossy. I dig it.
I also like the curved fins which pour a lot of water on top of the load when it tumbles. Maybe not as much as an LG turbo but still it’s a good feature.
It dispenses Clorox in the prewash or if none then in the main wash.
And yes the tub is stainless but it is not shiny chrome-like stainless. Instead it’s a very unusual earth tone shade, semi glossy. I dig it.
I also like the curved fins which pour a lot of water on top of the load when it tumbles. Maybe not as much as an LG turbo but still it’s a good feature.
Oh, and I don’t know why
SQ designed it to dispense Clorox in the first wash fill. Mine is 6 or 7 years old and Eugeune’s brand new one might do it differently.
Their prior FL design, the Horizon, dispensed it in the first rinse.
In any event, presumably every brand of FL has its pros and cons and idiosyncrasies, and no brand is best. So, in this club what we all do is figure out what our machine does on each cycle, and then we figure out how to pick and adjust cycles to get it to do what we want/need it to do.
SQ designed it to dispense Clorox in the first wash fill. Mine is 6 or 7 years old and Eugeune’s brand new one might do it differently.
Their prior FL design, the Horizon, dispensed it in the first rinse.
In any event, presumably every brand of FL has its pros and cons and idiosyncrasies, and no brand is best. So, in this club what we all do is figure out what our machine does on each cycle, and then we figure out how to pick and adjust cycles to get it to do what we want/need it to do.
mark_wpduet
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I thought that was common with all manufacturers that the bleach got dispensed in the first rinse... but now that I think about it... when we had a top load washer we put the bleach in with the wash on whites...When I got my FL washer years ago and it dispensed the bleach on its own...but it does it in the first rinse...I remember thinking... wow, I was doing it wrong all these years. I don't ever remember using the bleach dispensers in TL washers though...why? I don't know. We just didn't use them. Also, I remember using a cup of clorox...crazy how little I use now in comparison. Like a couple of tablespoons.
I think the stainless drum looks really nice. I wonder what made them design into the boot seal those little square tiny compartments? Seems like it would be better if it were more smooth...
This is about the size of my 2005 Duet. I think mine is like 3.8 cu ft.. Plenty big for laundry... but not quite big enough for a huge comforter.
Just think .. if someone gets one of these and they are in their 40s/50s.. it could potentially be the last washer you ever buy.
I think the stainless drum looks really nice. I wonder what made them design into the boot seal those little square tiny compartments? Seems like it would be better if it were more smooth...
This is about the size of my 2005 Duet. I think mine is like 3.8 cu ft.. Plenty big for laundry... but not quite big enough for a huge comforter.
Just think .. if someone gets one of these and they are in their 40s/50s.. it could potentially be the last washer you ever buy.
I am not a happy camper—-and of course, it’s a problem with the dryer. The metal screen at the back of the drum used to be white, which would eventually turn black because of heat, I’m assuming. SQ’s solution to that problem was to put a black screen in. Unfortunately, when the heat is on, black paint is rubbing off onto items being dried.
You can see the results in photos #2 & 3 below. That’s a pair of dress shorts. I took only photos of the two areas in which the honeycomb pattern of the screen is visible, although it’s more apparent seeing the shorts directly, rather than in the photo.
There are another half-dozen streaks and honeycomb patterns on other areas of the item. The load of mixed colors filled only half the tub in the washer, so this isn’t being caused by overloading the dryer.
Seeing this, I checked items washed in other loads. Sure enough, there were black marks on a heavy white cotton pot holder and two white pillowcases. The honeycomb pattern was very apparent on them, but I’ve already thrown them in the washer with a maximum dose of Clorox liquid bleach to see if that gets the stains out. Nothing else I’ve tried—Amway Stain Spray (which normally gets almost anything out), GooGone, and Dawn dishwashing liquid—has even lightened the stains.
I rubbed the screen with a white cotton bar mop towel and nothing came off on it. I saturated an area of the towel with Lysol Kitchen cleaner spray and rubbed again. Nothing came off onto the towel. Obviously, the problem rears its—literally—ugly head when heat is applied during the drying cycle.
I haven’t even used the high heat setting yet! The load of mixed colors was dried on low heat and the load of whites on medium heat.
The washer, on the other hand is doing an excellent job. Very impressed with it.
Ideas, anyone? John (combo52) or others who deal with SQ’s: Have you seen this problem before?
UPDATE: I put the stained white items (along with a few other bleachable pieces) through a Quick Wash at the maximum soil level and hot water, along with 1/4 scoop of Amway SA8 powdered detergent. Just checked on them; bleach did not budge the stains a bit. The stains appear to be permanent.
You can see the results in photos #2 & 3 below. That’s a pair of dress shorts. I took only photos of the two areas in which the honeycomb pattern of the screen is visible, although it’s more apparent seeing the shorts directly, rather than in the photo.
There are another half-dozen streaks and honeycomb patterns on other areas of the item. The load of mixed colors filled only half the tub in the washer, so this isn’t being caused by overloading the dryer.
Seeing this, I checked items washed in other loads. Sure enough, there were black marks on a heavy white cotton pot holder and two white pillowcases. The honeycomb pattern was very apparent on them, but I’ve already thrown them in the washer with a maximum dose of Clorox liquid bleach to see if that gets the stains out. Nothing else I’ve tried—Amway Stain Spray (which normally gets almost anything out), GooGone, and Dawn dishwashing liquid—has even lightened the stains.
I rubbed the screen with a white cotton bar mop towel and nothing came off on it. I saturated an area of the towel with Lysol Kitchen cleaner spray and rubbed again. Nothing came off onto the towel. Obviously, the problem rears its—literally—ugly head when heat is applied during the drying cycle.
I haven’t even used the high heat setting yet! The load of mixed colors was dried on low heat and the load of whites on medium heat.
The washer, on the other hand is doing an excellent job. Very impressed with it.
Ideas, anyone? John (combo52) or others who deal with SQ’s: Have you seen this problem before?
UPDATE: I put the stained white items (along with a few other bleachable pieces) through a Quick Wash at the maximum soil level and hot water, along with 1/4 scoop of Amway SA8 powdered detergent. Just checked on them; bleach did not budge the stains a bit. The stains appear to be permanent.
repairguy
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I would definitely contact the dealer about this issue.
Seems items would reasonably have to stick to the grill for the grill pattern to transfer. Perhaps run the dryer empty to check if the grill finish gets sticky when heated. Temperature setting doesn’t have an effect on the grill. The element always operates at full output, unless SQ has dual elements of higher & lower wattage (or a variable gas burner) to reduce heat input at lower temp choices.
Eugene, I don’t blame you for being mad! If I spent over 4 G’s on a washer and dryer set and the dryer left permanent black paint stains on the very first loads i’d dried in it I’d want that devil machine out of my home and my money back in my bank acct.
But then I cool down and contact the dealer and request that the dryer screen be replaced with a WHITE or unpainted screen and reimbursement for the permanently damaged items. That I believe is a reasonable request.
I hope that you have good luck in getting this resolved. Hopefully John L. will be able to give you advice on how to get SQ to make this right for you. Being a dealer he should have the 411 you need.
Eddie[this post was last edited: 10/7/2023-12:27]
But then I cool down and contact the dealer and request that the dryer screen be replaced with a WHITE or unpainted screen and reimbursement for the permanently damaged items. That I believe is a reasonable request.
I hope that you have good luck in getting this resolved. Hopefully John L. will be able to give you advice on how to get SQ to make this right for you. Being a dealer he should have the 411 you need.
Eddie[this post was last edited: 10/7/2023-12:27]
stopmeister72
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stuck items
I have had an issue at school where the bolts on the screen are kinda rough and catch rags. In particular, the sam's blue restaurant wash cloths that are part cotton and something synthetic. Every load, there would be one or more that would come out melted. Just about out of those now and just have cotton ones.
I have had an issue at school where the bolts on the screen are kinda rough and catch rags. In particular, the sam's blue restaurant wash cloths that are part cotton and something synthetic. Every load, there would be one or more that would come out melted. Just about out of those now and just have cotton ones.
ryner1988
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Wow, how unfortunate! Of course one always hears great things about SQ's washers, but their dryers not so much. It's one reason why if I ever had the funds to buy SQ I would probably only get the washer and pair it with something like a cheap 29-inch Whirlpool built dryer. I just couldn't make it make sense in my mind to spend so much on what is clearly a sub-par piece of equipment. I have no doubt SQ dryers are built well, but what good is that if a brand new one ruins clothes?
I hope you can get this figured out pronto!
Ryne
I hope you can get this figured out pronto!
Ryne
Oh NO!
Hopefully that could be a quick one-minute fix! Just trade that screen out with a new old stock unpainted one.
Or, maybe your dealer could trade screens out with one of their older floor display models. Done!
Mine never discolored in 7 years. And it’s gas.
Hope the dealer gets you back in operation today!
Hopefully that could be a quick one-minute fix! Just trade that screen out with a new old stock unpainted one.
Or, maybe your dealer could trade screens out with one of their older floor display models. Done!
Mine never discolored in 7 years. And it’s gas.
Hope the dealer gets you back in operation today!
decodriveboy
Member
@Ryne
I agree about SQ dryers. We had the SQ TL AWN432 set. Washer was fantastic but the dryer required two expensive repairs in the span of 5 years, so off to the crusher it went.
Clearly something seems way off with SQ dryers as members here have expressed reservations or outright dissatisfaction with them. We would have probably gotten a new SQ FL set if it had not been for our lack of confidence in their dryers so we went with LG and so far it’s been an improvement overall.
I agree about SQ dryers. We had the SQ TL AWN432 set. Washer was fantastic but the dryer required two expensive repairs in the span of 5 years, so off to the crusher it went.
Clearly something seems way off with SQ dryers as members here have expressed reservations or outright dissatisfaction with them. We would have probably gotten a new SQ FL set if it had not been for our lack of confidence in their dryers so we went with LG and so far it’s been an improvement overall.
magic_clean
Well-known member
Check this!
the dryer exhaust tubing and exterior vent flap for kinks or lint blockages. If the dryer can't breath freely; the dryer drum air inlet can reach a temperature that will melt synthetic fibers and you'll see the scorch marks.
Make sure not to overload either.
-LP
the dryer exhaust tubing and exterior vent flap for kinks or lint blockages. If the dryer can't breath freely; the dryer drum air inlet can reach a temperature that will melt synthetic fibers and you'll see the scorch marks.
Make sure not to overload either.
-LP
panasonicvac
Well-known member
According to reddit, there was a recall about the dryer screen but I couldn't find it anywhere. Apparently by reading all of the comments, they appear to be a common issue. For over two grand, I expected better.
drying
I would try drying a load of sturdy darks on the heavy duty high setting if you have any.
I would try drying a load of sturdy darks on the heavy duty high setting if you have any.
mark_wpduet
Well-known member
So sorry...
These kind of things make me scratch my head because I thought big companies like this do tons of testing before they release something. Wouldn't they have encountered this during their testing? Don't they tests tens of thousands of loads? Different load types? Mind blown that something this obviously got by them.
These kind of things make me scratch my head because I thought big companies like this do tons of testing before they release something. Wouldn't they have encountered this during their testing? Don't they tests tens of thousands of loads? Different load types? Mind blown that something this obviously got by them.
Mark- Searching around the internet, I found a number of people having the same issue with the new black exhaust screen on their new SQ dryers. I’ll ask my dealer if the unpainted—I mistakenly said the ones previously used were white—metal screens are still available and to switch it for the black one.
Eddie- I did hear from John via message. While he didn’t have an explanation for the color transfer onto items being dried, he did say that the previous exhaust screens—which were unpainted—turned gradually turned black not from heat, but from residue from poorly-rinsed clothes and/or when fabric softeners were used.
I washed two small but heavy bathroom rugs last night. Only the rug that isn’t rubber-backed goes in the dryer, so as an experiment, I used the highest heat setting and set the timer for 99 minutes. Around the 25-minute mark I grabbed a dry wash cloth and rubbed it against the hot metal exhaust screen. Nothing rubbed off on it. Dawns on me now, the only permutation I haven’t tried is rubbing a wet cloth against the hot screen. Will try that today. Otherwise, I’m completely stumped. This is why I think the best thing to do is just replace the new black-painted screen with the old-style unpainted one. Problem solved.
Aside: The only hesitation I had about getting the SQ washer was reading comments about out-of-balance issues on half-size loads, of which I wash a lot. Even on a pedestal, the machine has had no problem balancing small-to-medium sized loads. Washing the two small, very heavy rugs was a test of sorts, but the machine handled that tough-to-balance load without a problem. The true test will come when I wash sheets, pillowcases, pillow covers (the zip-up kind) and the mattress pad together. That was the only load that ever caused an occasional cabinet-banging out-of-balance load in my 2017 SQ 9-Series top-loader.
I’d like to express a heartfelt thanks to everyone for your congratulations, comments and suggestions. AW is such a supportive community and the best resource for all things laundry and laundry equipment-related one could ask for.
Eddie- I did hear from John via message. While he didn’t have an explanation for the color transfer onto items being dried, he did say that the previous exhaust screens—which were unpainted—turned gradually turned black not from heat, but from residue from poorly-rinsed clothes and/or when fabric softeners were used.
I washed two small but heavy bathroom rugs last night. Only the rug that isn’t rubber-backed goes in the dryer, so as an experiment, I used the highest heat setting and set the timer for 99 minutes. Around the 25-minute mark I grabbed a dry wash cloth and rubbed it against the hot metal exhaust screen. Nothing rubbed off on it. Dawns on me now, the only permutation I haven’t tried is rubbing a wet cloth against the hot screen. Will try that today. Otherwise, I’m completely stumped. This is why I think the best thing to do is just replace the new black-painted screen with the old-style unpainted one. Problem solved.
Aside: The only hesitation I had about getting the SQ washer was reading comments about out-of-balance issues on half-size loads, of which I wash a lot. Even on a pedestal, the machine has had no problem balancing small-to-medium sized loads. Washing the two small, very heavy rugs was a test of sorts, but the machine handled that tough-to-balance load without a problem. The true test will come when I wash sheets, pillowcases, pillow covers (the zip-up kind) and the mattress pad together. That was the only load that ever caused an occasional cabinet-banging out-of-balance load in my 2017 SQ 9-Series top-loader.
I’d like to express a heartfelt thanks to everyone for your congratulations, comments and suggestions. AW is such a supportive community and the best resource for all things laundry and laundry equipment-related one could ask for.
Congratulations Eugene!
YOu now own the best laundry pair ever offered for sale for home use. The washer will clean anything you throw at it in one wash as long as the cycle is properly selected. I've pushed mine to the limit and had great results.
As far as the dryer I don't know why SQ would use a painted grill. My 2016 dryer does not have that. Two questions, Where does it vent to and are you experiencing long drying times. If it vents up through the roof like mine does in my townhouse the vent pipe can get clogged easily. Ask your Landlord when those ducts were last cleaned.
All that said you now own the best. Enjoy them, I have had zero repairs on mine since 2016. I am very happy for you.
WK78
YOu now own the best laundry pair ever offered for sale for home use. The washer will clean anything you throw at it in one wash as long as the cycle is properly selected. I've pushed mine to the limit and had great results.
As far as the dryer I don't know why SQ would use a painted grill. My 2016 dryer does not have that. Two questions, Where does it vent to and are you experiencing long drying times. If it vents up through the roof like mine does in my townhouse the vent pipe can get clogged easily. Ask your Landlord when those ducts were last cleaned.
All that said you now own the best. Enjoy them, I have had zero repairs on mine since 2016. I am very happy for you.
WK78
UPDATE: Called the local SQ dealer this morning and told him about the paint transfer to clothing from the black air grille at the back of the dryer drum. He said "I'll order one of the unpainted galvanized grilles and install it as soon as it arrives." So, hopefully that takes care of the issue. However, as John L., Nick and others mentioned, there may be a partially blocked duct somewhere in the wall behind my dryer. Apparently this used to be done in the 1960s and 70s, but from what I can tell, all eight of the dryers in the building feed into the same large plenum--hope that's the correct term. I first discovered this upon moving to the building when I opened my dryer door and it was full of hot, moist air. Exhaust from the dryer of the apt below mine was blowing into my dryer. Called the dealer and he put in a vent with flaps that open when my dryer is running, but stay closed to prevent exhaust from other dryers back-drafting into mine. Bob (appnut) mentioned that he once lived in a building with a similar dryer exhaust set-up.
Thanks again, everyone, for your input. Next step is to contact my landlord and find out where all the exhaust from the dryers actually goes. I see only furnace vents on the roof and nothing that looks like a vent for dryers on the outside of the building.
Thanks again, everyone, for your input. Next step is to contact my landlord and find out where all the exhaust from the dryers actually goes. I see only furnace vents on the roof and nothing that looks like a vent for dryers on the outside of the building.
