New Speed Queen 7009 Front-Load Washer & Companion Dryer

[Marky_Mark]

Thanks, Eugene!  I did flick through the instructions for your model, but I couldn't see these times mentioned (it only seems to state the default times).  The manual also implies that selecting "max soil" will provide the maximum wash time, which possibly cannot be further increased using the up arrow key.

 

I was also wondering if the machine has only one water level.  

 

I'd also be interested to know if the different tumble rhythms of the various cycles all have the same RPM and only vary the tumble/rest times or if they actually alter the speed of the tumbling too.

 

[mrsalvo]

Eugene,
Congratulations on acquiring a new set, they certainly are sharp looking. Hope all issues with the dryer are resolved and you get many years use out of them. Glad to know that you are pleased with the washing ability of the SQ. A good detergent makes all the difference too.
Very happy for you.

Barry

 

[frigilux]

Barry- Couldn't agree more about using a top-notch detergent. I'm generally a Tide man, so liquid Tide Ultra Stain Release is my go-to. Also had good luck using Tide Ultra Oxi pods for small-to-medium loads in the SQ top-loader and the larger Tide 10X pods for large to extra large loads. Tried a regular-sized pod in the front-loader and there was more suds than I'd like to see. I'll try a 10X pod just to see what happens, although I'd bet the farm it'll trigger the suds removal protocol. Think I'll take the two unopened containers of pods to the local food shelf.

Picked up powdered Tide Ultra Oxi to use in the main wash when adding the Prewash or Stain Boost options. The user guide says using liquid detergent in the main compartment in those circumstances will tend to dispense the main wash detergent in the prewash.

I like Persil liquid, but find that it creates rather thick, foamy suds that doesn't rinse out as well as the aforementioned Tide products. I have softened water. Will have to fine tune the dosage of Persil or take it to the food shelf, as well.

 

[stopmeister72]

rinse description

Hey Mark, 

Here are the descriptions -

<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt;">Extra Rinse</span>

<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: FranklinGothic;">This Option will provide an additional rinse to the selected cy- cle. The water temperature will be cold.</span>

<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold;">Allergy Rinse</span>

<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: FranklinGothic;">The Allergy Rinse Option provides two additional rinses. It is useful for detergent sensitive skin. The water temperature will be cold.</span>

<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold;">NOTE: If Extra Rinse and Allergy Rinse are both selec- ted, the cycle will provide a total of three additional rin- ses.</span>

 

<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold;">Works the same as my mine with the "second" and "third" rinse options.  </span>

 

<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: small;">so you can get anywhere from 2-5 rinses depending on which buttons are selected or not.</span>

 

<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: small;">John</span>

 

 

[gelaundry4ever]

tide 10x oxi pods

Has anybody tried the Tide 10x oxi pods? They're the 10x power pods with odor eliminators. I like them. I pair them with Downy April Fresh.

 

[frigilux]

Jerome- I used the Tide 10X pods for loads requiring the large or extra large water level settings with my former washer, a 2017 Speed Queen top-loader 9-Series. I used standard Tide pods for small to medium loads. I’m going to try a 10X pod in the new front-loader, but I think it will produce too much suds.

 

[frigilux]

Mark- Here’s some cycle information time for the SQ 7009. Most cycles move in 5-minute increments as you scroll through the soil levels. The exception to that occurs with the Normal cycle, which makes a big jump in wash tumble time going between Heavy and Max soil levels. I noticed the same thing with my 2015 Maytag front-loader. They obviously know that’s the cycle and soil setting a leading US consumer magazine uses to rate a machine’s cleaning ability.

Medium Soil level is generally the default cycle time.

Key: Total cycle time/ Wash tumble time

Heavy Duty:
Light Soil 39/10; Medium 44/15; Heavy 49/20; Max 54/25

Whites:
Light Soil 44/15; Medium 49/20; Heavy 54/25; Max 59/30

Normal:
Light Soil 33/9; Medium 38/14; Heavy 48/24; Max 74/50

Perm Press:
Light Soil 37/8; Medium 41/12; Heavy 45/16; Max 49/20

Sanitize With Oxi:
Light Soil 90/50; Medium 1 hr + 40 mins/60; Heavy 1 hr + 50 mins/70; Max 2 hrs/80

 

[Chetlaham]

Truly a magnificent washer.

 

Add a heater and you're just about perfect!

 

[mark_wpduet]

I wonder what exactly sanitize with oxi even does? I mean, it doesn't have a heater so...what is it actually doing that's so special?

I also wonder, does this front load (like the LG) use more water to rinse than wash or is it the same amount as the washes for rinses? I've watched this work on youtube and I can't tell a difference.

Also... what is your definition of "Good detergent"?

 

[Marky_Mark]

Thanks so much for posting the cycle info, Eugene.  That certainly makes things a whole lot clearer.  And yes......it's easy to spot the cycle designed for CR! 

 

One other thing: if you press "soil level" and then use the up/down arrow keys to adjust the wash time, are you able to go any higher than the "max soil level" time?

 

[frigilux]

Mark- No. The up/down arrows can’t be used to alter the basic cycle time. I think they only function to select soak time if you choose that option and the number of extra rinses if you choose that option.

 

[Marky_Mark]

Oh interesting, ok.  I read this in the manual:

 

[frigilux]

Mark- I’ve always thought the whole “sanitize with oxi” thing was kind of bogus, but apparently if you use a heavy dose of it and keep it tumbling long enough, it does do the trick. I’m a traditionalist when it comes to sanitizing, preferring to use standard Clorox bleach. I do want to try the Sanitize With Oxi cycle to see how it eradicates food stains from kitchen towels and chef’s aprons. 60-80 minutes of wash time tumble with a good detergent—and maybe some Oxi Clean White Revive added for extra punch—should remove a lot of stains. Theoretically. LOL

As for what constitutes what I call a good detergent, I turn to the detergent ranking of the product testing company we love to hate. Liquid Tide Plus Ultra Stain Release and Persil ProClean Stain Fighter tie for the top score of 84. Next comes Tide Ultra Oxi with an almost identical 83. When in a pod mood, I use their top-ranked Tide Hygienic Clean Heavy Duty 10X Power Pods, which scores a 78. Those are the big pods. For small-to-medium sized loads I use Tide Pods Ultra Oxi 4-in-1, which are the standard size, with a score of 70.

Having said that, I never judge what detergents people choose to use. Everyone has their favorites.

 

[frigilux]

Mark- Wow! When I select a cycle and tap the arrows, all I get is a multi-beep error signal.

UPDATE: Turns out you and the manual are correct—with this caveat: If you press Light Soil, you can arrow up by 1-minute increments. After pressing it four times, it automatically changes to Medium Soil, then Heavy, then Max. If you choose Max, you can arrow down by 1-minute increments. However, if I, say, choose Medium Soil, or Heavy Soil, I get the error beeps.[this post was last edited: 10/11/2023-10:38]

 

[appnut]

Mark I agre with scam of Sanitize with Oxi. I want high heat oxygen bleaching for horrible food stains that set for weeks. Hence Tide w/Bleach Alternative and Biz.

IfI end up on a property with septic system, no chlorine bleach will be used that's for sure

 

[DADoES]

I use chlorine bleach on the whites/kitchen towels load. Also via the Cascade Fryer Boil Out for dishwashing, whatever small amount is involved. Haven’t had any related problem in 19 yrs.

 

[appnut]

Glenn, you may not have had problems, but a certain parnter has in our 10 years and I'm guarding against his habits in the future.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

water recirculation

It would be nice if Speed Queen added water recirculation.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

tide power pods oxi

Here they are.

https://tide.com/en-us/shop/type/laundry-pods/tide-power-pods-oxi-with-odor-eliminators

 

[panasonicvac]

These are my top favorite detergents. For powder, Tide Original and Kirkland. For liquid, Tide Mountain Spring and Persil Proclean Deep Clean Intense Fresh. For stain removers, I like using the Spray n Wash and Oxiclean Odor Blasters. I use white distelled vinegar once in a while for sanitizing, I never use fabric softener. Whenever I do white clothes or white towels, I use bleach.

 

[combo52]

Even a gallon of bleach per month

Would have no effect on a properly functioning, septic system. And the advantage of bleach for keeping drains clean and extending the life of washing machines and reducing electricity consumption, or other advantages of just using a quarter cup of chlorine bleach, and a front load washer on a regular basis.

My house in the mountains has never had any work done to the septic system since 1965, there are two garbage disposals in that house that we use heavily and bleach and other cleaners also don’t seem to have any effect.

John

 

[mark_wpduet]

I had no problem with Kirkland HE powder I used once...only the entire box I bought the powder was really clumpy..I remember it smelled SO good. Right now I use Windfresh which is a cheap detergent but as long as the clothes are clean and fresh I'm fine with it. Mostly I will use pretreat to get stains anyway. and I learned on this forum to use a drop of dish soap for an oil stain and peroxide on a blood stain.

I'm glad this machine also has a "soak" cycle. I do use that cycle on mine a few times a year

 

[helicaldrive]

Re #60

Since nobody else answered, and this is based on mine which is 6 or 7 years old by now, but the Delicate cycle does tumble slower.

There is one water level, to the lip of the tub and slightly spilling over into the boot, for both wash and rinse, on all cycles except Normal Eco, which I’ve never tried because it’s cold water. So, say you want to just wash a single stained shirt, it will fill up all the way and tumbling will be less than ideal — it will slosh in the water rather than rising up and dropping/slapping on the tub. I think the LGs and Samsungs and Whirlpools have a more sophisticated weighing system and in the case of one garment would use less water, but I could be wrong. And it’s nice how some brands fill much higher to rinse but the SQ does not. OTOH the SQ seems to use more water for washing than the others.

It doesn’t have recirculating, but the tumble vanes scoop up a lot of water and dump a very visible cascade of it on top of the load before it drops.

It lacks a spin spray, but when the spins between rinses start to coast to a stop and the water goes on to fill the tub for a rinse, the pump stays on for a half minute, which rinses spin suds off the outer surface of the drum and flushes suds out of the sump, which is nice.

Bulky, now presumaby Bedding, does nothing different to my eyes other than that medium spin is its default.

It balances and spins very smoothly and quietly compared to videos of other brands. But it effs up sometimes, particularly with loads of heavy towels or blankets. Mine has cabinet-banged and had no intention of stopping to re-balance, and it has slammed the tub into the glass door and almost broken it too. Very very rarely. And strangely most often on the final spin, which can be annoying. I wouldn’t run it while not at home.

No heater but hot water is tap hot with no dumbing down. Set it for a quick prewash and it will stay hot in the main wash.

Horizontal tub. Never tangles shirt sleeves or pants legs. Never gets pillow cases caught in fitted sheet pockets or one sheet balled up in the other.

Perfect machine? No. Best machine? I wouldn’t say that. Seems to me they all have their pros and cons. Am I happy with it? Yes. Would I buy another? Probably.

 

[helicaldrive]

Re #60

Since nobody else answered, and this is based on mine which is 6 or 7 years old by now, but the Delicate cycle does tumble slower.

There is one water level, to the lip of the tub and slightly spilling over into the boot, for both wash and rinse, on all cycles except Normal Eco, which I’ve never tried because it’s cold water. So, say you want to just wash a single stained shirt, it will fill up all the way and tumbling will be less than ideal — it will slosh in the water rather than rising up and dropping/slapping on the tub. I think the LGs and Samsungs and Whirlpools have a more sophisticated weighing system and in the case of one garment would use less water, but I could be wrong. And it’s nice how some brands fill much higher to rinse but the SQ does not. OTOH the SQ seems to use more water for washing than the others.

It doesn’t have recirculating, but the tumble vanes scoop up a lot of water and dump a very visible cascade of it on top of the load before it drops.

It lacks a spin spray, but when the spins between rinses start to coast to a stop and the water goes on to fill the tub for a rinse, the pump stays on for a half minute, which rinses spin suds off the outer surface of the drum and flushes suds out of the sump, which is nice.

Bulky, now presumaby Bedding, does nothing different to my eyes other than that medium spin is its default.

It balances and spins very smoothly and quietly compared to videos of other brands. But it effs up sometimes, particularly with loads of heavy towels or blankets. Mine has cabinet-banged and had no intention of stopping to re-balance, and it has slammed the tub into the glass door and almost broken it too. Very very rarely. And strangely most often on the final spin, which can be annoying. I wouldn’t run it while not at home.

No heater but hot water is tap hot with no dumbing down. Set it for a quick prewash and it will stay hot in the main wash.

Horizontal tub. Never tangles shirt sleeves or pants legs. Never gets pillow cases caught in fitted sheet pockets or one sheet balled up in the other.

Perfect machine? No. Best machine? I wouldn’t say that. Seems to me they all have their pros and cons. Am I happy with it? Yes. Would I buy another? Probably.

 

[lakewebsterkid]

SQ FL

I really like these machines! However, the lack of a built in heater ruins it for me. I have been pampered with one and I am not willing to give it up! Sanitize with Oxi is just a 'hot' wash with the added power of Sodium Percarbonate. However, if there is no bleach activator, it may not be enough to actually kill. So to ensure more bacteria, viruses, mold, etc. are killed, they increase the time significantly to allow for more time to work. 

Others have mentioned balancing and the horizontal tub. That is one thing I wish was more common. Our Duet loved to tangle items, especially when using Normal. Partial loads always balanced better than full loads. 

The tub flush and drain after interim spins is a very nice touch. That is still my biggest complaint about LG. Not enough draining occuring to remove the water used in the flush process. Ends up right back on the clothes. 

Keep us updated, please!

 

[mrsalvo]

Eugene, I’m also glad to see you posting again. You’ve been missed!!!

Barry

 

[launderess]

"sanitize with oxi"

Simply laundering textiles will "sanitize" them, adding chlorine or oxygen bleach will bring germ numbers down still further.

"Oxi" is not a regulated term nor word. It can mean whatever some clever chop in marketing decides it should in a consumer's mind.

For laundry appliances it's obvious SQ and others are playing with word association of "oxi" as in oxygen bleaches including "Oxiclean"

 

[launderess]

"It would be nice if Speed Queen added water recirculation.

Water recirculation for H-axis washers is more about using low water levels than anything else. If cycle in question uses enough water to get job done without having to recirculate with a pump it's all good.

There are some other benefits of recirculation sprays such as wetting down loads faster.

IIRC Zanussi washers in Europe were first to have recirculation spray systems (Jet System), am sure someone will correct if one is incorrect.

https://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?37766

On commercial side of things Unimac offers washers with spray systems.



https://unimac.com/technology/optispray/

 

[launderess]

Here's my AEG Lavamat doing a full load at rest between tumble reverse. You don't see very much water puddling up do you? When recirculation starts later in cycle things get splashy proving there is more than enough water.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

Speed Queen Laundry

I use both the Speed queen front and top loaders. I too noticed that the water will turn on while the pump is running for 30 seconds, then the pump will cut off. It's a suds removal technique that works. It has solid technology which really works.