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I agree about SQ dryers. We had the SQ TL AWN432 set. Washer was fantastic but the dryer required two expensive repairs in the span of 5 years, so off to the crusher it went.

Clearly something seems way off with SQ dryers as members here have expressed reservations or outright dissatisfaction with them. We would have probably gotten a new SQ FL set if it had not been for our lack of confidence in their dryers so we went with LG and so far it’s been an improvement overall.
 
Check this!

the dryer exhaust tubing and exterior vent flap for kinks or lint blockages. If the dryer can't breath freely; the dryer drum air inlet can reach a temperature that will melt synthetic fibers and you'll see the scorch marks.

Make sure not to overload either.

-LP
 
So sorry...

These kind of things make me scratch my head because I thought big companies like this do tons of testing before they release something. Wouldn't they have encountered this during their testing? Don't they tests tens of thousands of loads? Different load types? Mind blown that something this obviously got by them.
 
Mark- Searching around the internet, I found a number of people having the same issue with the new black exhaust screen on their new SQ dryers. I’ll ask my dealer if the unpainted—I mistakenly said the ones previously used were white—metal screens are still available and to switch it for the black one.

Eddie- I did hear from John via message. While he didn’t have an explanation for the color transfer onto items being dried, he did say that the previous exhaust screens—which were unpainted—turned gradually turned black not from heat, but from residue from poorly-rinsed clothes and/or when fabric softeners were used.

I washed two small but heavy bathroom rugs last night. Only the rug that isn’t rubber-backed goes in the dryer, so as an experiment, I used the highest heat setting and set the timer for 99 minutes. Around the 25-minute mark I grabbed a dry wash cloth and rubbed it against the hot metal exhaust screen. Nothing rubbed off on it. Dawns on me now, the only permutation I haven’t tried is rubbing a wet cloth against the hot screen. Will try that today. Otherwise, I’m completely stumped. This is why I think the best thing to do is just replace the new black-painted screen with the old-style unpainted one. Problem solved.

Aside: The only hesitation I had about getting the SQ washer was reading comments about out-of-balance issues on half-size loads, of which I wash a lot. Even on a pedestal, the machine has had no problem balancing small-to-medium sized loads. Washing the two small, very heavy rugs was a test of sorts, but the machine handled that tough-to-balance load without a problem. The true test will come when I wash sheets, pillowcases, pillow covers (the zip-up kind) and the mattress pad together. That was the only load that ever caused an occasional cabinet-banging out-of-balance load in my 2017 SQ 9-Series top-loader.

I’d like to express a heartfelt thanks to everyone for your congratulations, comments and suggestions. AW is such a supportive community and the best resource for all things laundry and laundry equipment-related one could ask for.
 
Congratulations Eugene!

YOu now own the best laundry pair ever offered for sale for home use. The washer will clean anything you throw at it in one wash as long as the cycle is properly selected. I've pushed mine to the limit and had great results.

As far as the dryer I don't know why SQ would use a painted grill. My 2016 dryer does not have that. Two questions, Where does it vent to and are you experiencing long drying times. If it vents up through the roof like mine does in my townhouse the vent pipe can get clogged easily. Ask your Landlord when those ducts were last cleaned.

All that said you now own the best. Enjoy them, I have had zero repairs on mine since 2016. I am very happy for you.

WK78
 
UPDATE: Called the local SQ dealer this morning and told him about the paint transfer to clothing from the black air grille at the back of the dryer drum. He said "I'll order one of the unpainted galvanized grilles and install it as soon as it arrives." So, hopefully that takes care of the issue. However, as John L., Nick and others mentioned, there may be a partially blocked duct somewhere in the wall behind my dryer. Apparently this used to be done in the 1960s and 70s, but from what I can tell, all eight of the dryers in the building feed into the same large plenum--hope that's the correct term. I first discovered this upon moving to the building when I opened my dryer door and it was full of hot, moist air. Exhaust from the dryer of the apt below mine was blowing into my dryer. Called the dealer and he put in a vent with flaps that open when my dryer is running, but stay closed to prevent exhaust from other dryers back-drafting into mine. Bob (appnut) mentioned that he once lived in a building with a similar dryer exhaust set-up.

Thanks again, everyone, for your input. Next step is to contact my landlord and find out where all the exhaust from the dryers actually goes. I see only furnace vents on the roof and nothing that looks like a vent for dryers on the outside of the building.
 
Good news about the dealer ordering a new unpainted vent cover Eugene!

I’d also ask the building manager when the dryer vents were last cleaned. My sister lives in an apartment and she has a washer and dryer in her apt. The dryer vent has become clogged twice in the 8 years that she’s lived there and the GD landlord has dragged his heels and complained about having the vent cleaned both times.

With as many dryers using the same vent system as in your building the vents should be cleaned at least once a year.

BTW, I’d like to say that its good to see you posting again, you’ve been pretty much out of the loop for a while. I always enjoy your posts and point of view.

Eddie[this post was last edited: 10/9/2023-13:38]
 
Eugene, I'm flattered you remembered that. It was when I bought the GE pair spring 1978 because I was moving into an apartment with connections.
 
Just put the SQ front-loader through what has traditionally been a very difficult load to balance in the series of White-Westinghouse (Frigidaire & Gibson-branded), Electrolux (Frigidaire) and Whirlpool Corp (Maytag) front-loaders I’ve had since 1987.

The load consists of a very heavy mattress pad, two sheets, six pillowcases and six of those zip-up pillow covers. All queen-size. Glad to report that the SQ handled the load beautifully. It’s on a pedestal, so the tower did wobble a bit while it slowly extracted water after the wash tumble, but that corrected itself—the machine did do the redistribute/slowly ramp up speed routine a few times—but there was never any cabinet banging or anything like that. The final spin ramped up to what I’m assuming was 1200 the last few minutes.

I do tend to wash a number of half-size loads each week and I’ve read comments here and elsewhere that SQ’s don’t always like that, but none of them have caused any noticeable disturbance to spins.

A question for anyone who might know: Where the heck does this thing fill from? All the other FLers I’ve had have a fill flume near the front of the tub. I never see water entering the SQ.
 
Fill

Hi Eugene —

It fills from behind the drum. From the detergent drawer, the water runs into a tube that pours behind the drum.

I thought of something else you need to know. After your machine finishes its brand new honeymoon, it will start making loud clanking/banging sounds when the final spin is coasting to a stop. Sometimes. But not always. The sounds are erratic, not rhythmic. The noise is its cast iron balancing balls clanking into each other. Don’t worry about it. There’s nothing wrong with the machine. In a few weeks it will stop making that noise. Maybe with ongoing use, the oil that the balancing balls are suspended in thickens up? I really don’t know the answer, and if this crockpot hypothesis is absurd enough to make a professional such as John laugh — well enjoy the laugh and may it brighten your day. But do please tell us why that noise happens during break in and then goes away later on.

Another club member was concerned about it and thought there was something seriously wrong with the machine. He was not persuaded by my assurance — and John L’s too, if I recall. He was alarmed by the noise and thought he was going to cause damage by continuing to use it. So he had the dealer tear into it, and then after that, the machine was never put together again the same, and he was sorry.

If your machine should walk when balancing a load, Speed Queen makes rubber feet with an adhesive backing that solves the problem. I have a smooth slippery painted concrete basement floor, and mine would walk.

I hope these machines bring you only pleasure! I’ve really enjoyed mine.
 
"I do tend to wash a number of half-size loads each week and I’ve read comments here and elsewhere that SQ’s don’t always like that, but none of them have caused any noticeable disturbance to spins."

H-axis washers are universally happy when doing "Normal/Cottons/Linens" loads filled to near or total rated capacity. There will be less issues with spinning, OOB, and so on.

That being said some domestic washers cope better than others with less than full loads. Introduction of computer control of motors and drum movements has gone a long way towards easing OOB issues caused by partial loads.

When doing bed linen generally find issue with partial loads it seems to give more room for pillow slips to work themselves into pockets of fitted sheets, then when it comes time to spin.. Whoaa-Nellie!
 
Launderess- The post White-Westinghouse front-loaders I’ve had all more elaborate or perhaps just longer redistribution/pre-spin protocols than the SQ, which is probably why half-size loads generally didn’t bother them. I recall the 2015 Maytag—a machine I absolutely loved—would, on rare occasions, fuss with a tough-to-balance load for 20-30 minutes before getting on with it. The Electrolux-made Frigidaires would simply error out after about 15 minutes, but I only recall that happening a couple of times. The SQ’s do only a bit of finessing and then it’s off to the races. It’s probably just as well the tub is only 3.5 cubic feet. More of my loads will near the fully loaded goalpost. It holds my extra-bulky queen sized comforter without being overstuffed, so I’m happy.

Helicaldrive- I believe the pedestals have rubber feet, so hopefully that prevents any walking. The pair sits on close to 50 year old linoleum over a wooden floor. So far I’ve only noticed a bit of a slow wobble during the balancing protocol, but no walking or anything like that. Vibration at high speeds has been minimal. I’ve figured out that the wash water drains at about the 27-minute mark on the Whites and Heavy Duty cycles, so I can peek into the laundry area and watch the ramp-up spin before the first rinse.

Eddie- No one was more surprised than me by how little I’ve posted the past couple of years. I just felt like I’d run out of things to say, I guess. It wasn’t because I felt slighted or anything. Hopefully acquiring the new washer and dryer will get me back onto the boards more often. I realize how nice it is when people offer a quick congratulations or put forward comments, suggestions, and personal experiences with particular machines.
 
sometimes I feel like I do that...and there's no reason behind it really...You just lose interest for a bit but it always comes back...especially if you're looking for something or just bought something related to this site.

I really wish SQ still had a front load with rear controls so it would more match my standard Whirlpool dryer...LG also made one years ago with REAR controls and if I was in the market for one at the time it was available I would have bought that one..and of course there are none now.
 
Forgot to add one question I had on my last post and I can't edit it...

I notice on the control panel it has allergy rinse button, but also an extra rinse button... what's the difference?
 
Reply# 20 inner stainless tub with 9 bolts

On 10/6/2023 at 08:06 by Helicaldrive wrote:

> My SQ FL is 6 or 7 years old by now, so yours might be different

My 7009 uses 6 bolts for the inner tub. So SQ went from 9 bolts to 6 with a change in spider design? Just an interesting observation.

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Mark- I generally prefer a rear control panel, too. The 1987 White-Westinghouse-made Frigidaire I owned had rear controls, as well as one of the early '90s Electrolux-made Frigidaires. They seem to be a thing of the past. The thing I like having again are the timed dispensers, even if I don't agree with when bleach is dispensed on my SQ. What I've done twice now is to use the Quick cycle (1 wash + 1 rinse + 1200 rpm spin) for items that need bleach. Then I add all the rest of the whites and run it through a Whites cycle. I don't always need to bleach; depends on what I've been cooking the past few days. Dish towels, dish rags and white chef's aprons are the most frequent candidates for Clorox.
 
Congratulations on the new set!

 

If you don't mind, could you please let us know what the maximum and minimum wash times are (main wash) that can be selected by pressing "soil level" and then using the up/down arrows or preset levels?  I'd be really interested to know the max wash time for heavy duty and normal, for example.  

 

Thanks

Mark
 

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