New Speed Queen AWN542 owner here

[DirectDriveDave]

Chris, (not to hijack the thread or anything) here's a video of mine of another machine, you can easily see the turnover involved.

 

 

(starts at 21:46, the link i posted for some reason keeps making it a bit earlier than that)

 

[washman]

What happened to the

"bed of nails" lint filter? Mom's 1983 vintage had that, it was effective and kinda cool too.

 

[DirectDriveDave]

Well I think after that, they moved to the "self-cleaning" filters which cleaned themselves every time the washer drained. 

 

Then later they went away from those, and the most common posts I have seen as the reason for that was either it was cheaper to make that way, or the dryer's lint filter was enough, something along those lines. 

 

[mieleforever]

Chris regarding your post about ...

the Speed Queen, I tend to agree with you, I have worked with a Speed Queen and Whirlpool toploader, they are water hogs and the wash and spin performance is dismal.

SO there I said it, now everybody can stone me.

RIP.

 

[frigilux]

mieleforever: You are a brave one, LOL!

It comes down to this: Traditional top-loaders were practically the only game in town for 50 years in the United States. Many here are very attached to the top-load format, and will always believe the only path to excellent cleaning is with a traditional top-loader. I say God bless, and enjoy your Speed Queen (or vintage washer)!

I get excellent results from my modern front-loader, and wouldn't trade it for any top-loader, new or old. It's fun washing some loads in my 2012 Frigidaire Immersion Care top-loader, but all the "heavy lifting" is done by the front-loader.

 

[mieleforever]

to frigilux...

Thanks for supporting the brave!!!

Cheers bud.

 

[mtn1584]

No one is going to stone you........

the worst thing that could happen is you get a Banana or Chocolate Cream pie in put in your face when you least expect it!!! LOL...But certainly no one is going to stone you!!! Everyone is entitled to their opinion. What is your favorite flavor btw?? LMAO
Mike

 

[washman]

Every time I do laundry

I am spitting in Algore's face. I also have a good laugh knowing that he would not approve of the massive amounts of water I use.
But I could care less. I just want clean clothes.

 

[mich]

Not to be mean...

But if you really wanna see, how well, newer, front loads, and top loaders *Can* clean, try this experiment..

Fill your Kitchen Sink, with Warm or Hot Tap Water, and pour in a cap (Line 1 or 2 of Tide Liquid) and drop in a stained garment. (In my Case, it was a shirt stained with BBQ sauce) just with, well, a little agitation (with your hands) in the water, you can actually see the stain just lift and go away.

Being as though the Detergent Solution, isn't so diluted, and spending time, trying to soften all the water in a top loader, you achieve better stain removal performance, and results.

The Concept really in a Front Loader, is to tumble, and tumble your clothes over & over again (more gently, I may also add) in a detergent solution, sitting in the bottom of the tub. It's basically a clothes washer, that soaks your clothes, and agitates them slightly enough to take full advantage of the detergent being used.

The Concept of a Top Loader, is to roll the clothes, through the wash water, and pull them downward (through the detergent solution at the bottom of the wash basket, and back up, and over again) and while, I'm not going to say, this isn't a effective cleaning technique, I do believe the Front Loader, really can deliver a better cleaning result.

I'm sure a lot of you will disagree with me, and say, I'm wrong, but, I've been on both sides, and this is what my opinion is. I think clothes come out noticeably cleaner with a front loading washer (especially our socks) and when loaded properly, with the right detergent & water temperature, one can clean anything no matter how soiled.

The one thing that I really do like about Top Loaders is, however, how quickly one can load and unload one. Seriously, you can load in lightly soiled Clothes, and in half a hour, there done and ready to be dried. Try getting that from a Front Loader.. You'll be disappointed.

 

[mich]

Not to be mean...

But if you really wanna see, how well, newer, front loads, and top loaders *Can* clean, try this experiment..

Fill your Kitchen Sink, with Warm or Hot Tap Water, and pour in a cap (Line 1 or 2 of Tide Liquid) and drop in a stained garment. (In my Case, it was a shirt stained with BBQ sauce) just with, well, a little agitation (with your hands) in the water, you can actually see the stain just lift and go away.

Being as though the Detergent Solution, isn't so diluted, and spending time, trying to soften all the water in a top loader, you achieve better stain removal performance, and results.

The Concept really in a Front Loader, is to tumble, and tumble your clothes over & over again (more gently, I may also add) in a detergent solution, sitting in the bottom of the tub. It's basically a clothes washer, that soaks your clothes, and agitates them slightly enough to take full advantage of the detergent being used.

The Concept of a Top Loader, is to roll the clothes, through the wash water, and pull them downward (through the detergent solution at the bottom of the wash basket, and back up, and over again) and while, I'm not going to say, this isn't a effective cleaning technique, I do believe the Front Loader, really can deliver a better cleaning result.

I'm sure a lot of you will disagree with me, and say, I'm wrong, but, I've been on both sides, and this is what my opinion is. I think clothes come out noticeably cleaner with a front loading washer (especially our socks) and when loaded properly, with the right detergent & water temperature, one can clean anything no matter how soiled.

The one thing that I really do like about Top Loaders is, however, how quickly one can load and unload one. Seriously, you can load in lightly soiled Clothes, and in half a hour, there done and ready to be dried. Try getting that from a Front Loader.. You'll be disappointed.

 

[rp2813]

LOL -- Al might approve.  Remember the flack he had to deal with for the gross overconsumption of energy at his own house?

 

As for TL vs FL, both types have their merits.  Our FL Duet got stains out of things that we had been putting through our Amana TL (basically the same wash system as SQ) for years.  Our current FL Affinity isn't nearly as adept as the Duet, and made me realize that there are some tasks where a TL machine is the better option.

 

If I were looking to switch to a brand new TL for my daily driver, I wouldn't consider anything but a SQ.  Enjoy yours!

 

 

 

[henene4]

But whats actually cleaning clotes in a FL is not the solution with detergent, most it is the tumbling. It scrubs the clothes, rubs them aginst other clothes, crashes them against the drum, pulling them through the solution and filtrating the water throughout the load. The only cleaningaction a TL has is the water floating through the clothes and scrubing them against the agitator.
There are 4 things a wash needs and that have to work together: Mechanic, Detergent, Time and temperature.
Now see and lets say, a FL and TL use the same amount of detergent and the same water termperature. Now, the TL takes half the time, so, there would have to be twice as much action to get the same results. BUT there is not more then the same amount of action, maybe even less. So a FL has just logical better cleaning then a TL...

 

[foraloysius]

In the past one of the arguments against toploaders was that they caused more wear and tear than frontloaders, but that would mean that there is more mechanical action in a toploader than in a frontloader, right?

 

[jeffg]

"BUT there is not more then the same amount of action, maybe even less. "

No there's substantially more. That's precisely why one can do two or three loads of worst-soiled laundry in a TL (~30 min) in the same time as one load in most FL's (70-90 min).

 

[mich]

But..

Will that same load come out, as clean, as a Front Loader wash?

 

[yogitunes]

Bottom line is he got a machine he is HAPPY with......

and I dont care who it is, or what machine they got, many of us have had many, good and bad, some we liked, some we didn't, our reviews may have helped others make their choice....

but this could have been a WCI product, or a NorgeTag, etc....if it is something that someone likes, and is content with, no matter anyone else's opinion....

MORE POWER TO HIM....congrats on your new machine, and I wish you many years of happy washing!.....

and you couldn't have done any better than that Speed Queen

 

[billiedyer1954]

top loaders

my husband is a field mechanic in a land fill. his work clothes are filthy, with grease thick mud and stuff I can not identify, my speed queen has never failed to clean them.it is a top loader, I don't believe anyone could have a bigger laundry challenge and the queen never lets me down.

 

[washman]

I will reiterate why

I choose SQ top loader over the others.
1. I don't want electronic doo-dads that offer NO value except they break and are expensive to replace.
2. I don't want to deal with mold
3. I don't want to wait one hour + just to do a friggin simple load of laundry.
4. I don't accept, believe, buy into, or endorse the left wing scare tactics regarding global warming, climate change, drought, etc.
5. I don't believe in consulting the owner's manual each and every time I need to do laundry.
6. Water, plenty of it + detergent = clean clothes. The HE top loaders simply do not deliver the goods in this department.
7. I don't want to wear ear plugs for the spin cycle.
8. I don't want to have my lid locked tight preventing me from adding the forgotten article.
9. I hate Algore and everything he stands for.
10. I don't "trend" or obligate myself to "trends" no matter what established institutions say.

I have this incredibly annoying habit or personality trait. It's called THINKING meaning I prefer to think for myself, decide what suits ME, and form my own opinions accordingly.

All that considered, the SQ old school top loader with the wonderful 31 gallons of water used more than meets my criteria for a clean wash each and every time.

Happy laundry day folks!

 

[combo52]

New SQ Top Loading Washers

Ben I am very happy that that you like your SQ TL washer, I am a SQ dealer and have already sold three TLers this week already.  However I would always take a SQ Front Load washer over their TL models, Like it or not FL washers and Hi Efficiency TL washers DO work better overall and I love my eight year old SQ FL washer, the load is done in 30-45minutes, like many other great new energy saving things they are here to stay.

 

But this is not the forum for your stupid political rants we have a separate areas for political discussions, join if you like but don't expect many here to agree with you, welcome aboard, John.

 

[jeffg]

Michael, you bet. And as mentioned 30 min. is a worst-case, lightly and moderately soiled loads are 5-6 min. less.

Ben, your list could easily be mine.. 1, 3 and especially 9. Last I heard the monthly utility bill at his mansion is 9x the national average. Apparently no Energy Star appliances.