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Steve,

Speed Queen are owned by Alliance Laundry systems, who make Unimac, Heubsch, Speed Queen etc. So they are actually made by a commercial manufacturer specialising in laundry, which IMO is one of the nice things about Speed Queens. That's also why the cycles are more "commercial like" than most other domestic frontloaders. I've linked to the Alliance website :-D.

Take care,

Jon :-)

 
SQ power draw

"You KNOW I'm gonna check out the wattage on that puppy and see if this sucka needs a 15a or 20a line..or even HEAVENS TO MERGATROID... 220v. LOL"

3/4 HP motor, and since one can be pretty sure it's designed for the worst case scenario of 120V 15 amp circuit, do the math to see what's left over for a heater. The specs don't specify the amp or wattage draw.
 
watts per horsepower

From the web:

Incidentally, a horse is capable of generating about 5 horsepower
(as long as you don't ask it to do so for very long)

Actually, it's trivial to convert horsepower to watts; it's got one
of the best mnemonics I know:

In 1492
Columbus sailed the Ocean Blue
Divide the sonofagun by 2
For the number of watts in a horsepower (=746)

Jordin Kare
 
120volts x 15 amps = 1,800 watts (Available)
(80%? nah.. let's not this time. LOL LOL LOL )

746 watts per hp x .75hp = 550 watts.

1,800 watts total available
less: 550 watts motor =
1,250 available for heater.

1,250 watts x 4.3 BTU/w = 5,375 BTU.

1f 60,000 Btu heats 60 gallons of water
and 50,000 Btu heats 50 gallons of water
and 40,000 Btu heats 40 gallons of water

in a typical US storage-type hot water heater,
then 5,000 Btu can heat 5 gallons of water (20 litres)

HMMM this may actually work! Casue IMHO 5 gal is about a F/L water fill

(Std. bucket of water is 2 gallons)
 
Piece of trivia if ya didn't catch it already. On the SQ FLer with theater, the machine "heats" for 50 seconds in a pause mode and tumbles for 10 seconds without the heater on. Not like other US heater frontloaders where tumbling and heating are simultaneous.
 
heater cycling

Now THAT's an idea. That would allow it to stay within the circuit limitations.

Now, which do you think would be better?

Smaller wattage heater that could be on simultaneously with motor.

Larger wattage heater that would be on only during pauses.

Or would this turn out to be six of one, half a dozen of another?
 
Forever to get a load done.

LOL What else could F/Ls do to take even MORE time? LOL.

Did we notice that this machine washes for 9 minutes max in the regular cycle to get a 30 minute regular cycle total time?

30 mins with two rinses, but not the 3rd optional rinse.
 
heater cycling
Larger wattage heater that would be on only during pauses--

Kinda like on the GE POS DW with a "Hot Start" option where the machine fills and heats its water while idle/silent (not recirculting water). This is a genius way o boos performance at no extra mfg cost and keepingthe machine silent as long as possible.

Perhaps the method Bob /Appnut describes above could be used as a prelude to a regular action cycle. Even better make the above a prewash (then spin) and get into a wash with fresh detergent!
 
FL cycle times to heat water

"LOL What else could F/Ls do to take even MORE time? LOL."

To be fair, it's really the fault of our electrical system rahter than FL machines themselves. Being "first on the block" in inventing something can have it's drawbacks, i.e. 120 vs 220 volts, NTSC vs PAL, as the infrastructure becomes too big to change.
 
New Speed Queed FL - Overview

I was doing business on the other side of town today and I went in to a medium appliance store and found the new Speed Queen FL Washer. I'll give a quick run down of it:
Model: CTS90AWN
Price: $1119.00 (On Sale)

Drum: SS Perforated Drum, no tilt, very small (About
maybe 4 pair jeans worth max)

Door Opening: Tiny at best!

Size: It comes on it's own tiny pedestal, which
doesn't have a drawer in it. It's about 8"
shorter than a Whirlpool Duet on its pedestal.

Build Quality: Seems sturdier than a Duet, however the control
panel is basically a decal pasted on a strip of
vinyl that is glued to the front of the machine!
To make matters worse, on the display model it
was coming unglued and curling up at the edges.
Yes, there are four large screws on this control
panel about 2 inches in from each side, but
these are not functional, they are there for
looks, I think. Not good for a machine of this
price point.

Selling Points: Due to SQ'a comittment to the Coin Laundry
business they now bring you commercial quality
and reliability to your home.

All Metal Transmission, no plastic gears.
Stainless Steel Inner Tub and Porcelin outer
tub, not plastic like other brands.

Energy Star Rated. The saleman said it uses
less water than a Duet does (probably due to
small tub size) but washes the same way.

Easy To Use Control Panel. Basically two dials
and a start button. You get to decide what Wash
/Rinse temperature YOU want for each cycle.
Left knob controls wash/rinse temps, right knob
selects fabric types (Speeds) and there is an
xtra rinse button as well as a start button.
That's it! I like the idea of being able to
select the water temps you want rather than
being programed into the cycle type.

Metching Dryer: Standard Drum size, large door opening. Same
exterior size as Washer, so they look matched.
Smooth Stainless Steel Drum.

When doing a side by side comparison with a Whirlpool Duet and a Bosch Nexxt, both the Duet and the Nexxt had really large drums and door openings. The Bosch seemed to be the sturdiest
of them all with the SQ close behind.

Yes, Amana and SQ used to both be Raytheon companies, but a few years ago I read somewhere that they sold off Amana, and I think even though it wasn't mentioned I think at that time they sold off SQ too. In fact back in the early 90's, Wards carried both Amana and SQ. They were identical machines except for a few decorative changes on the control panel. I almost bought one, but we got a better deal on the Whirlpool set from an appliance store.
Has anyone used one of these new Speed Queens yet?
 
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