New Whirlpool Dishwashers (just a little update)

[appnut]

Washerdude took the words right out of my mouth.  The KAs do definitely have my attention with the new Clean Wash/Water filter system.  To me, it's like Whirlpool is BOL and Maytag and KA are tied for 2nd place. I'm a little hesitant about the Dynamic Wash Arms since it's driven by it's own motor and doesn't use water pressure to force it to revolve.   Anything with the KDTM means it has the new filter.  The KDTM354DSS and KDTM354ESS have the filter.  The KDTM404E is about as "fancy" as I'd want to get.  These 3 have all the features/options I want, don't need nuttin' mo.  And of the 3, the 404E is the only one that comes in anything other than SS. 

 

[jerrod6]

Those motors.  Is the $10 isolator motor the one that runs the obit arms?  What about that other motor for $34.  Can this possibly be a water pump motor?  I mean I had a aquarium pump motor that was more robust than this-if this is a water pump.  It looks like a toy motor.  This just can't be.

 

[joeypete]

i haven't tried a new WP dishwasher so I can't really comment on their design. My Frigidaire is a new design though, with the BladeSpray wash arm. It alternates wash arms (meaning doesn't operate all of them at the same time). It has some "filters", mostly a glass trap that I clean out monthly…or if I notice the dishes having some grit on them, which isn't often. The cycle times actually aren't bad. I don't pre rinse my dishes at all. I usually run it on Normal with heated wash and heated dry. Cycle times are typically 70-78 minutes. The Heavy wash runs about 2 hours if the load is very dirty. Not bad in my opinion. I can say though that it cleans very very well. I'm very happy with it. So I don't think all new machines are bad.

 

[peteski50]

Hi Joe I have a 14 yr old ge tall tub that runs about 80 mins for a normal cycle and cleans very well. 78 mins is great for a newer DW. If I need a new one I dont want one that runs 2 plus hours for normal wash. Some of the bosch models have a speed perfect option that cuts the cycle time by 25% and I think all DW's should have something like this.
I work at home depot and most customers dont like to hear about these long cycle times.
Thanks Peter

 

[joeypete]

Hi Peter! Those older GE washers are pretty good!! I used one for over 10 years without any problems. It cleaned well too. I agree that the longer cycle times suck. I really didn't even think about that when I bought my current washer. I replaced an older Amana model which was noisier. I was lucky to pick one that didn't have really long times.

 

[mark_wpduet]

Good to hear

that Whirlpool is using a bigger motor on some of their new models instead of that water fountain motor.......

My Maytag is less than a year old and the cycle times aren't (at least the cycle I use) Auto clean - is about the same length as my 2005 Whirlpool that died. I once used jet clean with steam and that ran over 4 hours and got hotter than hell.