New Whirlpool Front-loaders
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arrrooohhh
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I am shocked.
I am so shocked at your pictures!
What on earth is Whirlpool thinking?
It own numerous factories in Europe that produce decent quality machines (including the Duet). It would be so easy to make the small adjustment needed and send a container load of washing machines to the US.
Instead they have to go through all the business of contracting out to a third party supplier.
I would be very dissappointed it I was state side.
Whirlpool offers quite a range of front loaders in the Australian market which probably outsell there top loading range.
I am so shocked at your pictures!
What on earth is Whirlpool thinking?
It own numerous factories in Europe that produce decent quality machines (including the Duet). It would be so easy to make the small adjustment needed and send a container load of washing machines to the US.
Instead they have to go through all the business of contracting out to a third party supplier.
I would be very dissappointed it I was state side.
Whirlpool offers quite a range of front loaders in the Australian market which probably outsell there top loading range.
Flabbergasted!!!!!
I am totally flabbergasted!!! What on earth is Whirlpool thinking!!! They sell their relatively good frontloaders all over the world and now they buy the worst from one of their competitors to sell on the American market. And what a price they are asking for it, overhere in Holland we wouldn't pay more than $350.- for that washer. And believe me it's not even worth that kind of money. Overhere I have read some statements that Whirlpool still sold washers that were quite reliable. I guess that time has come to an end now!
I am totally flabbergasted!!! What on earth is Whirlpool thinking!!! They sell their relatively good frontloaders all over the world and now they buy the worst from one of their competitors to sell on the American market. And what a price they are asking for it, overhere in Holland we wouldn't pay more than $350.- for that washer. And believe me it's not even worth that kind of money. Overhere I have read some statements that Whirlpool still sold washers that were quite reliable. I guess that time has come to an end now!
I can't see the pictures...
Is there supposed to be a picture in Christd1's post? I can't see it....
But I agree with Louis and arroooh, it's stupid of Whirlpool to rebadge the worst washing machine sold on the European market... I'd hate to see what it'd do to Whirlpool's good reputation.
Jon
Is there supposed to be a picture in Christd1's post? I can't see it....
But I agree with Louis and arroooh, it's stupid of Whirlpool to rebadge the worst washing machine sold on the European market... I'd hate to see what it'd do to Whirlpool's good reputation.
Jon
I went to bLowe's today to check it out. the pair look soooo tiny. I am not impressed with the simply dial your programme knob, just like on the Bosch Nexxt, and the instruction book had been removed. :-( Didn't even see any indicator lights to let you see where in the cycle it is. And how much time is remaining.
Bob,
Overhere in the Netherlands their 230V equivalents sell for around $400.- and for that price you can't expect they have a lot of fancy features. Good that you're not impressed by these machines so I won't have to talk you out of purchasing one LOL.
Louis
Overhere in the Netherlands their 230V equivalents sell for around $400.- and for that price you can't expect they have a lot of fancy features. Good that you're not impressed by these machines so I won't have to talk you out of purchasing one LOL.
Louis
Stopped at our local Lowes yesterday, went back to appliances (as usual) to see if these were here yet. There weren't any on the floor and I only got a blank stare when I asked the salesperson working the department - as usual, I get that a lot when I ask questions in appliance departments...
Not to worry Luigi. Ultimately I still want my Hetties and will be getting a Frigidaire FLer from steve 1-18 in the next 6 months or so when they are able to get out here.
arrrooohhh
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I wonder if anyone has purchased one on this site or over in THS forum?
I would be interested in how it does perform.
Im still disgusted with Whirlpool though.
I would be interested in how it does perform.
Im still disgusted with Whirlpool though.
Bob, wonderful you are getting a frontloader. Ofcourse we expect a full report of doing Bob loads in it!
I like the look and feel of this new little WP washer than I do the Danby over at Home Depot...
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I bought it
Hi Folks,
I wish I'd read this forum before I bought this washer.
I also bought the matching dryer. Lowe's delivered them today.
I thought these machines were the answers to my laundry prayers. I really need the compact size, and I wanted the front-loader quality.
In short, they are DREADFUL. I have already called Lowe's and told them to take them back. The washer just plain doesn't work: it vibrates as if it's going to explode and leaves the clothes soaking wet. I assume this particular machine is defective. But the dryer is also disappointing - it's very noisy.
I'd rather have my 20-year-old Kenmore back.
Jeanne
Hi Folks,
I wish I'd read this forum before I bought this washer.
I also bought the matching dryer. Lowe's delivered them today.
I thought these machines were the answers to my laundry prayers. I really need the compact size, and I wanted the front-loader quality.
In short, they are DREADFUL. I have already called Lowe's and told them to take them back. The washer just plain doesn't work: it vibrates as if it's going to explode and leaves the clothes soaking wet. I assume this particular machine is defective. But the dryer is also disappointing - it's very noisy.
I'd rather have my 20-year-old Kenmore back.
Jeanne
mrb627
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Shipping Bolts?
Are you sure these machines were properly installed? Perhaps the shipping bolts were not removed from the washer resulting in poor extraction performance. Front Load machines also need to be firmly levelled or vibration can be the result.
Give them a chance. Both Lowes and Whirlpool. There aren't that many other options out there at this price point for Front Loaders.
MRB
Are you sure these machines were properly installed? Perhaps the shipping bolts were not removed from the washer resulting in poor extraction performance. Front Load machines also need to be firmly levelled or vibration can be the result.
Give them a chance. Both Lowes and Whirlpool. There aren't that many other options out there at this price point for Front Loaders.
MRB
Brent-Aucoin
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Very interesing about your purchase.
Keep us up to date about what you find out.
They are so attractive.
I hope things work out for you.
Brent
Keep us up to date about what you find out.
They are so attractive.
I hope things work out for you.
Brent
Compact Whirlpool Front-Loaders
Hey Folks,
Yes, the bolts were removed and the machines were level. It's possible that they weren't properly set up in some other way - the delivery men had never seen these models before. I think though that there's something wrong with the washer, that it's a defective machine, and that a new one probably would work better. If the dryer were better, I might let Lowe's come out and replace the washer and see how that goes.
But I was also displeased with the dryer - just the motor noise was fairly loud for a $500 dryer. And these machines are in the bathroom on the floor where we sleep. We need them to be quieter than standard top-loaders, not louder. For $1200 (the washer cost $700) they ought to be.
In addition, despite the salesman's assurances that a 2.9 foot cubic capacity in the washer was the equivalent of a larger top loader with agitator, it really is quite small when you try to work with it. And I do believe it may be more like 2 cubic feet. Again, I could accept that if the machines were up to standards in other ways, but they're not.
I think probably I'm going to have to cope with larger top-loader machines taking up too much room in my bathroom. I'm tempted to try the Bosch compact front-loaders, or Asko, but they are very expensive and some reviewers suggest the washers are noisy. I really expected the front-loaders, even small ones, to be quiet. My parents' full-size Kenmore front-loaders are whisper quiet, both washer and dryer. Alas, full-size front-loaders are too deep for the space I have.
If anyone has any other suggestions for me, I'd love to hear them.
Thanks,
Jeanne
Hey Folks,
Yes, the bolts were removed and the machines were level. It's possible that they weren't properly set up in some other way - the delivery men had never seen these models before. I think though that there's something wrong with the washer, that it's a defective machine, and that a new one probably would work better. If the dryer were better, I might let Lowe's come out and replace the washer and see how that goes.
But I was also displeased with the dryer - just the motor noise was fairly loud for a $500 dryer. And these machines are in the bathroom on the floor where we sleep. We need them to be quieter than standard top-loaders, not louder. For $1200 (the washer cost $700) they ought to be.
In addition, despite the salesman's assurances that a 2.9 foot cubic capacity in the washer was the equivalent of a larger top loader with agitator, it really is quite small when you try to work with it. And I do believe it may be more like 2 cubic feet. Again, I could accept that if the machines were up to standards in other ways, but they're not.
I think probably I'm going to have to cope with larger top-loader machines taking up too much room in my bathroom. I'm tempted to try the Bosch compact front-loaders, or Asko, but they are very expensive and some reviewers suggest the washers are noisy. I really expected the front-loaders, even small ones, to be quiet. My parents' full-size Kenmore front-loaders are whisper quiet, both washer and dryer. Alas, full-size front-loaders are too deep for the space I have.
If anyone has any other suggestions for me, I'd love to hear them.
Thanks,
Jeanne
programcomputer
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I just saw these dreadful things myself.....
Oh god.......
So I just was offered a job at Lowes near my house and I was thankfully put in their appliance department. After meeting my new associates, I went around to all the different machines and pointed out what i knew. Many of my new associates were happy that they weren't going to have to train a complete idiot, and were quite amazed at my knowledge.
These little Paulines were sitting at the very end of the main row up on a stand, so they were a bit taller than what you see in the picture above. GOD they almost seem that they are being made NOT by Whirlpool, but by Suzi Homemaker. Their SOOOOOO very tiny, smaller tub than any other front loader i have ever seen. The dryer has a stailess steel drum, which I found to be quite different from the mainstream.
They definitly will be a dissappointment to Whirlpool I feel in the respect that NO one, will buy them , let's say next to a full size FL set, unless as Jeanne said, space is a definite constraint, and the size is a nescesary and unrelenting requirement. I just question it's working load capacity, and if it can keep up with the laundry piles created by most families.
And most importantly...they will fail purely on objective grounds, expecially if they operate full time, in such absolutly poor sympatico. Causing consumer dislike, and bad news rarely speads slowly.
I know that back in the late 1990's when I got my set of Westinghouse Space Mates, everyone in my family thought I was just plain nuts. But I knew that they were based on a design that had been built since 1956.
It was in that that I took comfort. But now, becasue of that set that I took the chance on so many years ago, that not only have I purchased a new Frigidaire set, but five people in my family have also purchased Frigidaires, or the Kenmore equivalent. These same fools, that said I was nuts, now enjoy the benifits of front load washing.
It's really too bad that your having such travails with your new washer and dryer. But If I understand their policy, if you have had them less than thirty days, they will come and get them.
I would in my opinion try another Whirlpool FL washer, with the STRICT instructions made by you, that if another one comes in and it's still bad like described....that you can return the entire set for a refund, or in trade for a different set.
Like I said earlier, time will tell about these little Paulines and if their going to fly or not. And with Whirlpool just announcing that they are discontinuing their repair parts buisness, and these new Edsel's. Whirlpool will find themselves going the way of Maytag, and may not be long for this world..
Chad
Oh god.......
So I just was offered a job at Lowes near my house and I was thankfully put in their appliance department. After meeting my new associates, I went around to all the different machines and pointed out what i knew. Many of my new associates were happy that they weren't going to have to train a complete idiot, and were quite amazed at my knowledge.
These little Paulines were sitting at the very end of the main row up on a stand, so they were a bit taller than what you see in the picture above. GOD they almost seem that they are being made NOT by Whirlpool, but by Suzi Homemaker. Their SOOOOOO very tiny, smaller tub than any other front loader i have ever seen. The dryer has a stailess steel drum, which I found to be quite different from the mainstream.
They definitly will be a dissappointment to Whirlpool I feel in the respect that NO one, will buy them , let's say next to a full size FL set, unless as Jeanne said, space is a definite constraint, and the size is a nescesary and unrelenting requirement. I just question it's working load capacity, and if it can keep up with the laundry piles created by most families.
And most importantly...they will fail purely on objective grounds, expecially if they operate full time, in such absolutly poor sympatico. Causing consumer dislike, and bad news rarely speads slowly.
I know that back in the late 1990's when I got my set of Westinghouse Space Mates, everyone in my family thought I was just plain nuts. But I knew that they were based on a design that had been built since 1956.
It was in that that I took comfort. But now, becasue of that set that I took the chance on so many years ago, that not only have I purchased a new Frigidaire set, but five people in my family have also purchased Frigidaires, or the Kenmore equivalent. These same fools, that said I was nuts, now enjoy the benifits of front load washing.
It's really too bad that your having such travails with your new washer and dryer. But If I understand their policy, if you have had them less than thirty days, they will come and get them.
I would in my opinion try another Whirlpool FL washer, with the STRICT instructions made by you, that if another one comes in and it's still bad like described....that you can return the entire set for a refund, or in trade for a different set.
Like I said earlier, time will tell about these little Paulines and if their going to fly or not. And with Whirlpool just announcing that they are discontinuing their repair parts buisness, and these new Edsel's. Whirlpool will find themselves going the way of Maytag, and may not be long for this world..
Chad
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"...And with Whirlpool just announcing that they are discontinuing their repair parts buisness, and these new Edsel's. Whirlpool will find themselves going the way of Maytag, and may not be long for this world..."
Are they no longer making replacement parts for BD and DD washers??
Yes, Maytag seems to be going down the tube as well (last manufacturer I thought that would introduce a plastic tub); hang onto your "bulletproof" Maytags now!!
--Austin
Are they no longer making replacement parts for BD and DD washers??
Yes, Maytag seems to be going down the tube as well (last manufacturer I thought that would introduce a plastic tub); hang onto your "bulletproof" Maytags now!!
--Austin
Try Bosch!
Jeanne,
I own a set of compact Bosch Axxis+ models and would highly recommend them. They are two years old. The washer is very quiet, but the dryer is somewhat noisy (you can hear the airflow and reversing drum direction). Still, it is no worse than some other dryers. My set is located in a laundry closet off of my livingroom - and there is nothing at all offensive about the dryer's noise when the closet door is closed.
If I were you, I'd spend the extra cash to get the quality.
The washer drum is about 1.9 cubic feet, but holds the same amount of laundry as my 1993 GE filter flo standard capacity model. A good rule of thumb is to load it VERY LOOSELY to the glass door. When the load is wet, it compacts to 1/2 the size, and there is plenty of room for tumbling. It's absolutely packed with features, provides vigorous action, and is very gentle on fabric.
The dryer is also loaded with features. As with the washer, its very gentle on fabric. It uses only enough heat to dry the type of fabric you've selected, and uses extended cool downs and tumbling.
One nice feature is that it allows you to pre-set all options as soon as you buy the pair. Your favorite customized cycle is only a push button away thereafter.
If you have any questions about the pair, please let me know.
Pete
Jeanne,
I own a set of compact Bosch Axxis+ models and would highly recommend them. They are two years old. The washer is very quiet, but the dryer is somewhat noisy (you can hear the airflow and reversing drum direction). Still, it is no worse than some other dryers. My set is located in a laundry closet off of my livingroom - and there is nothing at all offensive about the dryer's noise when the closet door is closed.
If I were you, I'd spend the extra cash to get the quality.
The washer drum is about 1.9 cubic feet, but holds the same amount of laundry as my 1993 GE filter flo standard capacity model. A good rule of thumb is to load it VERY LOOSELY to the glass door. When the load is wet, it compacts to 1/2 the size, and there is plenty of room for tumbling. It's absolutely packed with features, provides vigorous action, and is very gentle on fabric.
The dryer is also loaded with features. As with the washer, its very gentle on fabric. It uses only enough heat to dry the type of fabric you've selected, and uses extended cool downs and tumbling.
One nice feature is that it allows you to pre-set all options as soon as you buy the pair. Your favorite customized cycle is only a push button away thereafter.
If you have any questions about the pair, please let me know.
Pete
Depth constraints
petebldg9- I believe that there is a depth constraint and the Bosch units are the deepest product I have seen. The dryer is huge.
Jafrogg- have you looked at the depth on the Frigidaire product? I know that my Lowes just marked these down to $549 ($599 w/ ATC) and the pedestals were on clearance for like $56.
petebldg9- I believe that there is a depth constraint and the Bosch units are the deepest product I have seen. The dryer is huge.
Jafrogg- have you looked at the depth on the Frigidaire product? I know that my Lowes just marked these down to $549 ($599 w/ ATC) and the pedestals were on clearance for like $56.
