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By the knob though, i can tell its the older model duet. I haven't seen any of the newer duets/maximas do this. Which I hope is a good sign..
 
Pretty neat picture

Was this caused by something breaking loose during a spin more than by an actual explosion which is often thought of as bursting violently as a result of pressure within? I guess though, that if an explosion is defined as a release of internal energy, this would qualify as an explosion because it sure looks like the result of a release of energy.

I'm going to have to check here more often.
 
Spin-sploded-the drum flew apart from high centrinfical forces.Did the user load something in the machine it couldn't properly balance to spin?Did the user select the right cycle?Never heard of a Duet "exploding".A fellow that used to work at the plant with me had a Duet set and he had nothing but praise for it.
 
The strange thing is, all the spin-splodes that have happend to whirlpool units are with the old drum designs and not with the new drums. Also I'm seeing so far that all the spin splodes that have happend weather it be maxima or duet, have happend to the older models and the models that spun at 1400rpm.
 
Can you say Broken Spider and I wash all my clothing in cold water and NEVER use bleach, LOL. You can tell just from looking at the moldy broken parts what probably lead up to this event.

 

I really think many days that many people should just go to the laundromat, and not be allowed to have DWs as well. The stuff we see everyday in homes is pretty scary. The interesting thing is a washer like this could be used in a laundromat for ever and never suffer a broken spider.

 

John L.

 
 
>I really think many days that many people should just go to the laundromat, and not be allowed to have DWs as well.

Laundromat repair people might not agree. LOL I remember going to one where the owner was busy fixing washers, and he was grumbling loudly about the extra work generated by the idiots, er, users. That same place had signs about overloading that said roughly: "If you overload and the machine breaks we will NOT refund your $2!"

Perhaps we should just issue scrub boards to everyone unless they pass a special test. LOL

However, to be fair, a lot of people out there are working with flawed information. Cold water washing environmental "advantages" are pushed so hard now, and yet one seldom hears anything else.
 
Very True, LordKenmore

Someone I know called me an idiot for telling her that cold water washing doesn't work.

"Ever heard of Cold Power, DUMBASS?"

Yet today, I proved to myself again why I love warm and hot water. Completed an overnight soak with that started hot and ended cold, and used the Miele's Delicate cycle with a little detergent to scrub stuff out, and some bleach* to whiten everything that last little bit. Delicates uses a high water level for washing/rinsing, so the machine would get a cleanout too!

Results were beautiful. I coulda sworn that those blasted "pit-stains" started to shift for the first time in forever...

*This is despite their recommendation against, but I figured if US machines (even cheap ones) allow it, then why can't I?
 
Pit Stains

If you are having trouble with pit stains, see if the aerosol version of Shout is available in your area or if you can buy it online. I turn the undershirts inside out and spray the underarm areas with that product, give them a resting period of maybe 15 minutes followed by a good hot wash and those stains are removed because what you are seeing is not so much a stain as a deposit of mineral salts from the antiperspirant/deodorant and sweat plus a waxy film from the roll on or smear on product base. The mineral salts inhibit the detergent from attacking the wax and you get the buildup. The aerosol version of this type of pre-treater has solvents that the stuff in the plastic spray bottle does not contain and it will really knock out stubborn stains.
 
Oh

first time I ever heard of this too. My 2005 Duet has been awesome, even though I think the rmp is 1000. But you're right, you can see the parts are nasty....
 
I also noticed when you watch the video on HD, well...the first thing you see is that those black clip looking things, are detergent pods. Second, i typed in the model of this washer and looked the the control panel tryed to match up the lit options and cycle. What a coincidence, the washer *seems* to be on either bulky items or heavy duty and set on extra high for the spin speed. Hmmmmm.............
 
Antiperspirant is best removed with acid. Detergents (surfactants) can actually stick to the build-up and make it worse - this is what Henkel said.
 
I use oxy-clean super stain spray remover on my shirts. I keep a bottle near the laundry basket and when I take a shirt off in side out spray the area and leave it till laundry time. Sometime a week or more. Run through a hot wash with detergent and oxy-clean powder. I have removed stains that were there for a couple of years. White shirts seem to release the stains faster and better than colored shirts. Multiple wearings and washings are getting them all out.

Jon
 
So...

Are we taking the position that this is somehow a user error?
All the fuzzy logic in these machines is supposed to prevent things like this from happening.

Malcolm
 
Funny enough, the original fuzzy logic system is rather slow in terms of reaction time. If something happens north of 400rpm, those bords react most likely to late if they ever have the change to do so.

As I wrote this, a sentence from a German book popped into my head. It's about a family visiting their grandparents. On the way there, they are hit by a nuclear blast. WW3 started.
As it turned out, the grandparents were shopping in the nearby city (Fulda) as the explosion went off.
The doughter is then quoted with the sentence "Hopefully, they just instantly evaporated".
Don't know how my head drew that connection.
 
Best thing for getting at underarm stains on shirts

That kills the whiff has been a good vintage bar soap. I say vintage because most are no longer produced, well at least not in their original form.

Kirkman's Borax and Fels Naptha work wonders on clearing out nasty yellowing and whiffy underarms.

When fresh perspiration is pH neutral to mildly acidic. However if the stuff is allowed to sit it will become alkaline. This explains the old advice to use alkaline substances on fresh whiff stains and acid on older ones. You want to use the opposite of what the stain is to neutralize.

Best way to protect against perspiration stains is to wear undergarments or use shields. Oh and launder items shortly after they have been worn if exposed to sweat. Chucking things into a hamper and allowing them to marinate for several days (or weeks) is going to make the problem worse.
 
You know, here in Germany, we had Candy do this in a Consumer Reports test field. Consequence: A Europe wide action. Reducing spin speeds, redesigning, exchanging of parts.
And why? Consumer Reports lab conditions. They have standard loads, even loading is regulated. Thus, it was basicly taken as scientificly proofen to be a design flaw.

However, there are cases of pretty much any manufacturer haveing such fatal faults. I know that Indesit&#92Hotpoint had such failures, I know of a video where the "biggest" collector of washers from Germany had a case where an AEG had a fatal bearing failure during a spin, causing the machine to flip on its side.

And as we concluded here often enough: Most cases, it is directly relatable to consumers user errors. Waterproof items, plain wrong loading, using machines that had obviously not been set up correctly or used even though they were broken.

And on top, seeing that maybe 100-1000 cases are known of something like this happpening in the US, while several million washers are out there, it is not actually such a big deal.
Now, take into account how likely it is for a consumer to be in the same room as the washer is running, and on top this kind of damage only can happen during high speed spins, it will take a long time to anyhow affect a customer in its personal health.
 
There has got to be some type of sensor that is not working correctly in these washers.  Take for instance my first generation HE3T washer.  If a load was severely off balance and could not be redistributed the washer would only spin as slowly as it could handle the load or actually not spin at all and give an error code.  This is on a 15 year old washer with the technology that was known back then.  Spring forward 15 years and we have units that are smarter with even better safety controls.?

 

On these machines it actually looks like everything was balanced and the controls proved it was okay to go into max spin.  It seems as though something failed on the lines of the suspension, bearings, spider, etc.  Not the computer.

 

Have there been any reports of LG or Samsung front loaders having this type of catastrophic failure?

 

 
 
Destroyed washing Machine

For a washer to sustain this type of damage it had to be going near full speed and there is no sensor on any washer that will suddenly stop a washer under that condition if something catastrophicly fails or the load quickly becomes unbalanced such as a mattress cover with a plastic cover where the water is released suddenly when the plastic cover ruptures.
 
Hmmmm

I have not heard of any of these machines doing this. However, I agree with Malcolm, if you aren't supposed to use a high speed spin on a bulky cycle, maybe the machine should have a overide to a lower spin speed. It seems to me, if you use a bulky cycle, you would want a high speed spin to get the items as dry as possible. Just sayin!
 
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