Normal?

[badgerdx]

I have an approx 10 year old Crosley Heavy Duty 20 top loader model, that I actually quite like, which is advantageous as it came with the rental, but it has one odd trait: There is no catch basin in the washroom, and the drain hose goes directly into an open pipe end... During the final rinse only, the water pump is IMMEDIATELY SO strong that the plumbing can't handle the flow, and it backs up into the washroom. Needless to say, I end up doing two wash cycles, and then after the second spin, I dial it up for a final spin, since the majority of the water has already left the tub.

Is it normal for a modern washer to do this? I'm quite a newby to this fascination...although I certainly racked up many hours as a boy watching my family's Speed Queen and Kenmore do their thing.

 

[runematic]

Ok, you're Crosley is probably a Maytag Performa-based washer. They do have a strong pump on them. Most of the connections we do are to standpipes and not sinks. How tall is the pipe before the trap? Is there a trap? How big of a diameter of standpipe is it? Where does the standpipe go to? It is more likely a plumbing issue than a washer issue. There also may be a build-up of lint and gak in your pipes.  Anyway, I hope this helps somewhat.

 

[badgerdx]

But?

Why does it pump out so strongly only on the final rinse, and not when pumping out the wash cycle? That's what seems bizarre. I have no problem when it pumps out the wash cycle, only the rinse.

 

[arbilab]

The only drain backup I have ever experienced with an automatic washer was in a very old house. A half gallon of bleach allowed to stand in the drain pipe overnight fixed it. Evidently the drain had become restricted by deposits the bleach could attack.

If you look, $5 liquid drain cleaner is the same thing as $1 storebrand bleach, sodium hypochlorite.

There may be a deeper plumbing problem to explain why the first drain does not cause the problem but the second drain does.

 

[retro-man]

I had this same problem in a rental property. The washer had no problem draining after the wash but when draining the rinse it did the same thing. What happenen was the entire drain system would fill up with the wash water but did not have time to clear out before the rinse. The drainage system still had the wash water in it and when it came time to dump the rinse the pipes were full and could only handle a small amount. Come to find out someone had flushed paper towels down the toilet and they got clogged at the drain exiting the house. Had to route out the problem and then all was fine. Hope this helps maybe your problem also.
Jon

 

[pdub]

Drain Blaster

Here is something I have that we could try using on your drain pipe. It may do the trick!

 

[badgerdx]

Thank you all for your advice on the slow drain... I actually have been using a product that's cleared it quite a bit, however...no one is answering my main question which is: Why does the machine pump water out so much more forcefully on the final spin vs the wash spin? I assure you...the pump action is about 2-3 times as strong on the final spin. (Crosley CW6000W) (Made by whirlpool)

 

[tolivac]

Where do you get the "Drain Blaster" tool?would like to try one instead of a $400 power snake from Lowes or ??? for a plumber.

 

[retro-man]

possible explanation of why it pumps out 2 to 3 times faster in the rinse cycle vs the washer cycle may be that during washing there is detergent with agitation and there are small bubbles of air that is cause by the 2 above factors so that would maybe slow down the flow abit. when rinsing there are no air bubbles just plain water and it may exit through the pump faster. Just my thoughts on this, not to be taking as fact.
Jon

 

[badgerdx]

Jon, Thanks for the effort, but somehow, I doubt that's it. My wash water is never very soapy or sudsy, certainly not at the bottom of the wash tub. I could understand if I had a Unimatic that was throwing tons of sudsy water into the outer cabinet and had to pump that out, but not in this case. The other thing I notice is that it starts spinning immediately at a higher rate on the final spin. Hmmm. Maybe I need to find a manual.

 

[norgechef]

@badgerdx

Your machine is not made by whirlpool.....it is a Maytag performa/Norge made machine and is at least 13 years old because they stopped making them in 1999, i have 2 and the one with the more advanced controls has a slow spin on the first spin, therefore the belt turns slower and it drains out water less quickly because the belt isn't turning as fast....and on the final spin it does a faster spin so the belt turns faster resulting in quicker pumping.....both my machines drain much faster than any i have ever owned, so much so that sometimes when its spin-draining the wash-water backs up into the bathtub for a few minutes lol but i assure you this is completely normal. You probably already realize this but the pump is run by the belt so it will go whatever speed the belt turns at.....

 

[badgerdx]

Norgechief. I think you're correct. This is what I've been assuming, and what you say makes sense. Sorry on the Whirlpool bit, I meant to say Maytag... I must have been watching some wp videos or something when I'd written that.