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RE: General Telephone on the West Coast

As mentioned in Reply #13. I'm wondering if their service there was any better than what they provided in Ohio? Our service with them was much less than desirable. I know they served several parts of the Los Angeles area, and other parts of CA, so did any of you out west reside in their territory?
 
They were acquisitive in the West, completing acquisitions through the 50s and 60s to build up their footprint. Believe they didn't get the areas in Riverside County (Palm Springs/Coachella Valley) until the early 60s--before that it was the California Telephone Company. There's also a youtube out there from the Sunland-Tujunga independent telephone company touting their handling of a cutover/conversion in the late 50s which seemed to be before they got absorbed by GTE. You're right about the quality in Ohio, though...my aunt in Oberlin tells a story about her husband not hearing about a job offer because the call never came in in the early 70s.
 
Jamie, that doesn't surprise me that GTE was on a buying spree out west at that time. When I was very young, the service in my immediate area was provided by Ohio Consolidated Telephone Co., and General acquired an interest in that company sometime in 1955. On June 30, 1958, it became General Telephone Co. of Ohio. It remained as such until 2000, when it became Verizon. In 2010, Verizon sold the territory to Frontier, and is currently that.
 
When we first moved to the Northern California Coast in ‘63 we had a PT&T toll station 5 party line. No dial service, you picked up the receiver and the operator came on the line and you gave your number and the number you wished to call and the operator rang in down. If the number you were calling was someone on your party line, you hung up while the operator rang the number and listened for the rings until your party answered, then picked up the receiver and proceeded with your call.

Then in ‘71 General Telephone acquired the phone service for the area and introduced dial service. I was already away from home for almost a year when this happened. Mom was over the moon getting a private line and dial service.

I don’t recall her having any difficulty with receiving or placing calls. However the billing was another matter. She frequently found that calls listed on the bill seemed excessive in time and the number of calls. The only calls that were local ie. no charge were within a 15 mile radius, everything else was a toll call. So she kept a spiral bound steno tablet next to the phone and meticulously recorded EVERY call made from the phone, the number called, date, time of call and disconnect. This way she was armed to dispute any invalid charges.

I believe that AT&T now has the service for this area again.

Eddie
 
Sometime in the 1960s, GTE took over the long time mom & pop telephone company that served the Los Gatos area of what is now Silicon Valley, including the portions of the Santa Cruz mountains that were on the Los Gatos exchange.  Service was horrible and subscribers were pleading over the ensuing decades for Pacific Telephone (Pacific Bell after the court ordered divestiture by AT&T in 1984) to assume the exchange, but it was not to be. 

 

When Dave and I moved out to that area in 1989 and landed in GTE territory, we got to experience the sub-optimal service first hand.  At least we weren't subjected to the weird Automatic Electric telephone sets that seemed like toy phones, since by that time we could use our own equipment.  We had problems with both delayed dial tone and unbreakable dial tone, which is when you dial a number and still have a dial tone instead of a ringing signal. 

 

I started working for Pacific Bell in 1991 and a co-worker of mine had worked for GTE in Los Gatos.  She said the reason why Pac Bell wasn't interested in taking over the GTE exchange out there was because the mountainous region was a maintenance nightmare.

 

Once GTE morphed into Verizon, things got better and we even had services available that Pac Bell, the overwhelmingly dominant provider in the region, didn't even offer.   We were upgraded to a 5E switch, which was superior to what Pacfic Bell was providing in the vast majority of its switching offices.

 

Toward the end of our 19 year stay in that area, Verizon's Time of Day recording went totally bonkers.  The time lady would provide information such as, "At the tone, the time will be 4:20 and 98 seconds" or whatever.  It wasn't long before the telcos were allowed to discontinue that service altogether so it was clear that Verizon had stopped maintaining it in anticipation of that decision.

 

Continental Telephone served the Gilroy area for many years.  It was a much smaller operation than GTE, but I think at some point in the '90s Verizon took over.

 

The one independent provider in Northern California that gets high marks from its subscribers is Roseville Telephone in the northwest portion of greater Sacramento.   Not that it makes much difference anymore since residential land lines are being abandoned by subscribers and the telcos are discouraging them.  Other than the reliability factor, they just don't make sense anymore.  I removed all long distance access from my land line after receiving an $11 charge just for having it as an option.  All long distance happens from my cell phone now.  At some point I'll end up on VOIP.  Another high quality essential consumer service will be soon be gone forever, and there will be no chance of any telco building out new networks -- fiber or otherwise -- in the future.

 

I've been told that low income subscribers who are on "Lifeline" discounted service will soon be receiving cell phones and losing their land line service.  What goes around comes around.  In the beginning, telephone service was only marketed for business use, and that's rapidly becoming the case again well over 100 years later.
 
Ireland mid 1970s

I just stumbled upon this one from the mid 1970s in the West of Ireland.

It’s a group of P&T operators in a small auto-manual exchange that was replaced around then, most likely an Ericsson ARF crossbar. I suspect this may have been their last day at the switch boards or something as there’s a bit of a giddiness and very lighthearted atmosphere.

I’m not sure what Earnestine would have made of her Irish colleagues!

Fascinating insight into a bygone era.

The last manual local switch (rural one) closed here in 1986. Digitalisation began in 1979 and what remained of any modern era operator services were permanently shut down in 2009.

They were the human communication hub of small communities all over Ireland and around the world. I just found it fascinating to see the lighter side of it. Operators are often presented as very austere and robotic, but often (especially in rural areas) they were the friendly voice af the end of the phone, covering those boards 24/7/365 and were life lines in emergencies too.
In small exchanges, they were often chatted to while calls were being connected.

I know I’ve heard stories about operators being able to relay calls to my grandmother in the 60s. Someone called her, the local operator answered and tried the line. Then said ..oh I think she’s getting her hair done. I’ll try the hairdressers for you and if she didn’t get her she’d take a message.

As great as modern telecommunications is, there’s something of the human touch that’s been entirely lost forever. It’s long before my time, but you haven’t even been able to call an operator here at all since 2009. All landline operator services were closed permanently and I don’t think you could ever call an operator on a mobile phone. In case of difficulty, I guess you can tweet them these days!


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The old phoneboxes got a new lease of life.

Over the last number of years the classic old P&T phoneboxes have made a return as locations for automatic defibrillators. You’ll find these scattered all over Ireland in rural areas, towns and cities.

Just on the logo: P&T (originally stylised as P⁊T (using an old Gaelic script) ceased to exist in 1984, replaced by Telecom Éireann and then privatised as Eircom, now just Eir.[this post was last edited: 7/16/2021-20:34]

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I always find it quite interesting how they had one design of phone for decades and just kept tweaking it by bolting on extra buttons / speakers / mics / touchtone keypads etc etc.

 

We had plenty of Northern Telecom manufactured 500 series phones, alongside a lot of Ericsson F68 "Dialog" rotary dial phones in the 1960s/70s

 



 

Some similar models to the GPO in the UK were used too and the odd Siemens model.

 

In general the European telcos, while usually monopolies in those days, shopped around for their equipment.

 

Ericsson was probably the closest European counterpart to Western Electric, and remains dominant to this day in modern telecommunications gear.

 

Various ITT affiliates as well as Siemens, and in the digital era Alcatel, Nokia etc were a big deal.
 
Here the Bell System was totally integrated--at the cost of innovation, in some cases--never did you see anything but Western Electric associated with it (was a big deal when BellSouth after divestiture made a move to Nortel). Our independent sector (roughly 60% of the landmass/30% of the population...correct me on this statistic) could range far more widely. There were some big providers (Automatic Electric, North Supply, others) which competed for the independent company's favor...North Supply even licensed the Ericofon (the one-piece design from Ericsson). I had fun once (while I was working at a non-Bell cellular company) visiting the Telefonmuseet (telephone museum) in Stockholm, Sweden. It was obviously a paean to the wonders of Ericsson, but did make you realize that there was a big sophisticated telephone industry outside of the Bell System and outside of North America)
 
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