NYT on Induction Cooking

[phillymatt53]

I hear that Best Buy takes old electronics for disposal, although a fee may be involved?

A fee to dump recycleable stuff?
Greed lurks everywhere.

 

[vacerator]

I hear that Best Buy takes old electronics for disposal, although a fee may be involved?

No fee at Best buy to drop off electronics for recycling Dadoes. Many municipalities also designate a day for it.

 

[pstehle]

Yes, the sky is falling... I noticed my increased tendency toward athsma the very day I hooked up my propane tank to the stove. I live on a small cul-de-sac that the developer chose not to supply with mains gas, and it'd be a horrific expense to run it now. Given that I'm in Phoenix, we don't really need it for heat, and I have a heat pump water heater.

The utter nonsense of politicians trying to ban gas stoves because inner city kids who spend nearly their entire lives inside high rises have athsma more than those of us who grew up in the country, and were able to get outside and get dirt under our nails is, well, nonsense. Let's quit allowing these morons to dictate every aspect of how we'll live our lives.

I will add, that years ago in a similar non-gas home that had a 40 year old Kenmore solid disc downdraft cooktop with one working burner, I purchased an induction hot plate. When we run out of propane, I'm quite happy to pull it out of the cabinet and plug it in, it does exactly as others have written above... I suspect this will be the direction society follows down the road, but I refuse to be shoved into it by a damn politician...

 

[pstehle]

I wish we knew that before we got rid of it. A Philips 37 inch LED Smart tv replaced it. We still have it.

Bwahaha... "deflection circuit"... I much prefer the black boxes we have nowadays, no annoying 30hz hum from the vertical circuit, no pincushion or purity to deal with... no possiblity of a 25kV arc when the flyback cooks out all the wax! Ooh, that smell! But at least you could fix one when it quit.

 

[phillymatt53]

The utter nonsense of politicians trying to ban gas stoves because inner city kids who spend nearly their entire lives inside high rises have athsma more than those of us who grew up in the country, and were able to get outside and get dirt under our nails is, well, nonsense. Let's quit allowing these morons to dictate every aspect of how we'll live our lives.

Banning gas stoves is counterproductive to the income revenue to the gas companies, and would likely result in gas companies voting against such banning.
Plus, consumers would get into the act as well, since some prefer gas, over electric.
Bottom line, it would be a stupid move to attempt.
But then again, a lot of legislation is stupid.

 

[vacerator]

Most serious and professional cooks prefer gas burners for precise heat control. Induction is good for that too, but they mainly use one or two for quick heating and limited tasks. You can't flambei' a sauce without a flame.

 

[pstehle]

Maybe it's just my lizard brain, but a lot of the jabbering about kids getting sick because of a damn gas stove is nothing but ignorant blather. Yes, if the thing is misadjusted and spewing fumes, or has a leak, maybe so... I believe it's the fact that they don't spend enough time outside, breathing cleaner air and getting exposed to pollen, germs, etc. That's how we grow an immune system... We're born with very little of that, and need to be exposed to the world to live a healthy long life.

We're doing the environment a major service by burning the naturally occuring gas, in it's unburnt state it's a far worse greenhouse gas than CO2, if you're concerned about that. I don't understand why landfills are required to collect and burn off methane without running a generator with it. They pull 3 phase power from the grid to run vacuum pumps to collect the gas, when they should run a generator and at least be self-sustaining.

 

[pstehle]

Banning gas stoves is counterproductive to the income revenue to the gas companies, and would likely result in gas companies voting against such banning.
Plus, consumers would get into the act as well, since some prefer gas, over electric.
Bottom line, it would be a stupid move to attempt.
But then again, a lot of legislation is stupid.

Take my gas stove over my dead body, get outta my kitchen! Those idiots in NJ & NY tried to get them banned, petitioned the EPA to make them illegal... that went over like the proveriable turd in a punch bowl, didn't it?

 

[phillymatt53]

Maybe it's just my lizard brain, but a lot of the jabbering about kids getting sick because of a damn gas stove is nothing but ignorant blather. Yes, if the thing is misadjusted and spewing fumes, or has a leak, maybe so... I believe it's the fact that they don't spend enough time outside, breathing cleaner air and getting exposed to pollen, germs, etc. That's how we grow an immune system... We're born with very little of that, and need to be exposed to the world to live a healthy long life.

We're doing the environment a major service by burning the naturally occuring gas, in it's unburnt state it's a far worse greenhouse gas than CO2,

Your lizard brain is just fine, no need to worry about it.
As for the human immune system, I agree that it's healthy to "excersize" it in order for it to strengthen itself.
Living in a bubble isn't good for the immune system.

And isn't CO2 what the plants and trees need in order to thrive and generate the air be breathe?

 

[vacerator]

Co2 yes, and any type of fuel off gas produces it, wether it is to make heat or electricity. Too much of anything isn't good though. The argument for electric over fossil fuels or the internal combustion engine is this; It's incremental. One vehicle with one or two passengers or one household doesn't pollution save, or waste much. It's with mass multiplying which does. The higher the population, the more of those are. It requires less energy to power a bus, plane, or train when the increments are divided vs. private vehicles. A combustion engine has at least two cycles, most have four. Those require energy. A revolution is needed to rotate the flywheel, A second rotation to rotate the clutch, transmission torque converter, and more for the various gears. Then even another to get that to the wheels. Braking also uses energy. An electric vehicle has the motor/s directly coupled to the wheels. One revolution per rotation. Therein is the savings. That said, use and drive whatever you choose. We also choose to recycle. It's enough having new higher density housing being built with a mile, we don't want a landfill too.

 

[pstehle]

The argument should be exactly how much pollution is created by our collective lifestyle, and how bad is the real damage to the environment. No politics, no fake science for the sake of government control -grants written to get the money, that give results the grantor was looking for no matter the truth. No lying billionaires trying to get you and I to sit at home eating soylent green instead of tasty cows while they flit about the globe in their private jets dining on wagu. Recycling is a great means of reducing our effects, but in the case of glass and plastic, doesn't actually save much energy or emissions. I think it should be done even if the only benefit is reducing landfill waste... Plastic is a tough dog, because it's embedded in nearly everything we produce, and various polymers need sorted and processed differently.

I found a pic online some years ago, "Ilan Samson's Problem", which compared the total emissions of all the vehicles worldwide upon the earth's atmosphere, to 10x10x20 room, asking how many matches one would need to light in that room over a year, to produce an equivalent (scaled) contamination. No answer, not even a reference online to the question any more, it's been expunged from the internet as far as I can tell. I'm pretty sure the answer was a single match, but the dude passed away a year or so ago, and there's no way to force Google to cough up that data now... The AI answer misunderstands the question, trying to calculate how many matches would equal the year's emission concentrated in the room.