Odd Maytag Double Wall Oven

[DADoES]

 
Someone on a message board I follow has this oven.  It's in a house they bought, no user manual.  He hasn't (yet) found the model/serial tag.  He claims there's no way to separately control the two ovens.  They both turn on to the same temperature.  That of course is unacceptable for the energy inefficiency when baking a single item, or for baking multiple items simultaneouosly at different temperatures.

There are references on the display to a Convect, SpeedClean, Clean, and Lock but no buttons for convection or self-cleaning.

Is the display module perhaps used on multiple models and this one doesn't have those functions?

Is there really no way to operate the two oven cavities independently?

 

[coldspot66]

Is this a manual clean gas oven?

 

[luxflairguy]

Manual clean GAS oven!

 

[DADoES]

 
He says it's electric.

 

[dermacie]

How does one tell if it is gas or electric without looking inside?

 

[appnut]

I think you better ask him if there is natural gas or propane as one of the utilities for the house.

 

[appnut]

Here is a PDF user manual for a Maytag gas wall oven with the same control panel and the same 2 door/oven cavity wall oven arrangement

https://www.manualslib.com/manual/100149/Maytag-Cwg3100.html#manual

 

[mattl]

Well being gas I would suppose the lower "oven" is actually the broiler. Just like with a gas range.

 

[appnut]

Matt you are correct.

 

[combo52]

Single gas Maytag wall oven

This was built by Magic Chef division, it’s a so-so oven, however, there haven’t been any decent gas wall ovens made in the last 30 years in the United States.

Glenn did the person that posted this show any pictures of cake baked in the bottom oven lol

John

 

[DADoES]

 
There are only the three photos I copied.  Mention of potatoes baked in the upper oven, salmon in the lower during the final 20 mins of the potatoes.  He emphasized that the unit is electric with heating elements in both cavities when others questioned if it's gas, but he has not provided photos of the interiors and says he cannot find a model/serial tag on it.  A new oven unit is on order, presumably electric.

 

[combo52]

I guess they will find out when they go looking for that 240 V line, hopefully they don’t pull the gas oven out and blow the house up, lol

 

[repair-man]

They are seeing the orange glow from the gas igniter and assuming it’s electric. This oven was made with both the smaller sized broiler and this larger sized one presumably to fit an existing cut out for replacement purposes.

 

[repair-man]

This configuration was made in electric with the top oven self cleaning controlled by the electronic control (clock) and the bottom oven standard clean with a regular thermostat. There would be a round control knob toward the right side of the panel.

 

[gizmo]

The manual linked by Appnut shows on PDF page 18 (Printed page 16) how to remove the floor of the broiler compartment ("broiler bottom.")

Once you have removed the broiler bottom, you should find a plate with model and serial number underneath/inside.

 

When you have a model number, that should settle if it is electric or gas - will have an E in the model number for Electric, G for gas.

 

This brochure I found (see link below) suggests that it is gas, as there is no electric equivalent in the range. The brochure and Appnut's manual both suggest that is it CWG3600 which is a gas, single oven with large broiler underneath.

 

So the lower cavity is a broiler, not an oven. To use it, you select "broiler" then press the up or down arrow to select Hi or Lo heat. Just Hi or Lo, there is no thermostat for the lower cavity.

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https://www.maytag.com/content/dam/global/documents/201107/specification-sheet-MTGWOCKTP-BROCH.pdf

 

[appnut]

CHRIS, THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH!!!!!

 

[combo52]

Maytag 24 inch gas wall oven

Hi Glenn, the references you referred to and shown in photo three on your original message for things like clean Speed clean convect are not used on this oven. They never light up. They just use the same vacuum fluorescent display in many different controls.

Neat seeing the brochure that covered this oven Chris, thanks it just reminds us of what junk Maytag was peddling to the public back in the 90s and the reason for their eventual demise.

This oven was nowhere close to the quality of a GE, Thermidor, and several others. The only reason they produced it at all is because they needed a 24 inch oven, but they should’ve let this product go completely or redesign it, it’s comical when they talk about the excellent engineering quality that goes into this junk product. And these ovens never baked particularly evenly. You would never be able to bake four pies like they show or two sheets of cookies and have them coming out looking anything alike, lol.

John

 

[gizmo]

This web page has three photos. (See link below.) It shows the Maytag model in question. (Or an updated version?)

Click on the centre photo to see the burner layout.

It seems to have some (to me) weird hybrid of a gas burner with an electric element around the perimeter.

That would explain why the owner thinks a gas oven is electric??

 

Is this to use an electric element to give some heat around the periphery, where a gas burner is likely to have uneven or no heat?

This construction is so unlike any wall oven I've seen in Australia.

 

Glow bar ignition is very uncommon here, it seems a stupidly inefficient way to ignite gas. Here, there would be electronic spark ignition with a control module that senses the flame and restarts sparking if the flame fails.

I had a friend with an off grid solar home, he bought a gas wall oven (Australian made Westinghouse) to save on electricity use. This was about 20 years ago when solar power was expensive and systems were smaller than you would install today.

It turns out, this model had glow bar ignition.  The glow bar consumed so much power it was almost like running an electric oven, which defeated the purpose of buying a gas oven. He basically didn't use it because of that. When Westinghouse replaced the model, the next version had spark ignition. (Which uses about 1 watt instead of over 1000W.)

https://www.ajmadison.com/cgi-bin/a...EPCI7Uu_BsyHVL9QQgbRa3iuqkdvpGbYKw6iVivdrhTEb

 

[combo52]

Maytag gas wall oven

Hi Chris, the model we’re talking about in this picture pictured in Glenn’s thread does not have a perimeter heating element around the burner, some manufactures have done that to even out the broiling performance that’s only done on the broil burners.

I definitely agree with you that hot surface igniters are a very energy intensive way of lighting a gas burner because the igniter stays on the whole time the burner is burning, we are talking about less than 400 W not 1000 however, the other problem with hot surface igniter is they’re not very durable. We figure if a customer uses their oven every day. They’re only gonna get 3 to 5 years out of one of those igniters And any repair cost money so you’re gonna be out about 200 bucks every 3 to 5 years if you use your oven a lot.

I don’t know where that center picture came from in the link you posted but that burner with the extra heating element is not in that oven when you look up the model number that they’re trying to sell, I know that’s an old listing and that oven is course is no longer available.

John

 

[DADoES]

 
I had not checked backed until today at the remodeling board where is the discussion related to this Maytag oven.

The fellow reported 26 days ago that a 240v outlet was installed for the new double-oven, the old ovens were 120v.  And a gas line was present in the cavity.  But he still insists the old ovens were electric, not gas, to someone else who questioned it.