Oh Stan? Stanley? Hey Stan! About That *Stinky* Persil

[launderess]

Several months back Stan and I did a swap with me taking a few boxes of Persil Universal powder that was a tad too fragrant for his tastes. *LOL*

Well after all these months of having those highly scented boxes of detergent scent my stash area, decided to take the bull by the horns and crack open a box.

This is the non-concentrated version of Persil Universal. Indeed for soft water Henkel recommends 80ml (about one cup) per load. That is just too much detergent for Moi, and certainly was for the few sheets one was washing, so cut it down to about 1/3 cup.

Set the Miele for a "short" cotton wash at 100F and let the machine do it's thing. After the cycle was over took out the laundry and must say it wasn't highly scented at all. Rather a fresh clean scent one associates with Persil and other TOL detergent powders such as the older version of Ariel.

The first several rinse waters as they drained gave off a whiff, but that is all. Maybe because my Miele does five rinses and uses ten or more gallons per, most of the detergent scent was removed.

Anywho am putting my vintage detergent project on hold for the duration until all the Persil (three boxes) is used up. Indeed may start to cull that herd or consign them to laundromat/twin tub use. Am considering the health of my *vintage* Miele and want to protect the bearings and seals.

Well that's me for you. Will do more loads over the coming days with this Persil to see if it does if ever pack a fragrance wallop.

Picked up this old Persil tin and have confined the opened box (encased in a ZipLock bag) inside. Odd but the closed tin seems to do a good job of keeping the scent in where even a thick bin liner could not. Also odd but interesting is that the box of Persil fits neatly inside the tin. There very clever those Germans.

 

[launderess]

Some of the writing inside the tin.

 

[tomturbomatic]

Persil Universal

My box has been sitting in the laundry area and hardly has any strong smell anymore. The clothes washed in it not only have no trace of the odor at the end of the cycle, they did not carry any fragrance at the cycle's end even when it was first opened. I admit that it has a sharper, more institutional odor than most domestic laundry detergents. I use it with STPP and oxygen bleach for whites like undershirts. It is a bit less bubbly than powder Tide HE.

 

[mrwash]

German Persil

Persil regular powder smells quite strong in the box but after the wash, the scent ist nearly gone. We have a newer version over here that promises more fragrance after the wash but noch chance. Laundry still smells just clean.
Megaperls leave a little more scent. But Persil powder an Megaperls are known for lots of foam but little scent.
Buts as always: It all depends on the peoples nose. I think there are people who would say that the scent is still too strong.

 

[stan]

Hello Dear

Glad it worked for you! Can't remember how long ago that was (maybe last summer) Did you notice if the scent died down from when you first received? Or did you have to keep them sealed up?
I do remember you noticing the scent upon receiving the box in the mail!
Can't possibly see how it could work in a conventional washer with only one or two rinses. Sounds like you have the right machine for its use!

Take Care

 

[ronhic]

Laundress

80ml is almost 1/3 metric cup (being 250ml)....

Additionally, I think you'll find that the diagram on the package is a 'scoop' rather than a cup....

If Stan was using it by the 'cup' rather than by measuring it in mililitres, then that would account for his stinky wash issues....

 

[launderess]

Scoop One Uses

Is the one which came in one of the boxes of Persil Megaperls one purchased a job lot of. Size wise it's more of a "cup" to me than a scoop, but there's me for you.

This scoop/cup has measurements in metric and American with "1" being equal to 86ml. Either way cannot see using one "cup" or "scoop" of Persil in my Miele. Certianly not of the Megaperls and not even of the powdered version. For some strange reason even the small amount used required extra rinses. Don't know if it is because the tap water is colder now and that impaired rinsing or what.

@stan:

Yes, the stuff is still pretty stinky, which again is one of the reasons have packed it in with vintage All powder and wanted to use this Persil up. Though one uses so little per wash load and have the three boxes so this might take awhile! *LOL*

 

[foxchapel]

I have a small box of the regular Persil Universal powder and really like the scent. Very little of it remains on the clean laundry, so I can actually use it on bedding and towels without it giving me a headache. Persil was a fun experiment and I'll miss it when it's gone, but we're basically "Free 'n' Clear" detergent people by necessity, and thus have a lifetime supply of it.

The strongest of all the scents, IMO, is the Persil Color Gel (will not be missed when it's all used up), then MegaPerls Color, then the 'Sensitive' (all in declining order).

Launderess - your machine can give five rinses? Where is the "Envy" button here?

 

[launderess]

Not "Can" But Does

For the "Cottons" cycle short or long.

First - deep fill to wash water before draining
Second - deep long rinse
Third - deep long rinse but slightly shorter than the first (at least to me)
Forth - deep long rinse (ditto)
Fifth - final deep rinse where either fabric softener or starch is dispensed.

Machine only has one short 30 sec spin between the third and fourth rinses, then a longer full spin between the forth and final.

To some extent this is how many older European/UK front loaders rinsed. By the time Miele introduced it's 1900 series there was a spin after the second rinse (IIRC) and each of the following two or three. By the later models it was just two or three rinses with a spin after each one.

To be fair on both Miele and many other modern front loaders with advanced computer controls the machine "senses" if an additional rinse is required and will adjust accordingly. At least this is my understanding, am sure those that know better will chime in.

Older front loaders were probably designed in fear of suds lock and or spinning laundry just done at or near boiling temps which could cause creases. So they simply diluted most of the detergent/suds out before spinning. Down side to all this use of water is often for very absorbent loads my Miele never gets up to full spin speed on the first spin, just too much water/froth entering the pump so the machine slows down. The owner's manual says to underload the machine when laundering such items.

Oh and my machine uses about 11 liters (IIRC) of water for each rinse. Top that! *LOL*

 

[gus]

I might be wrong, or I might misunderstood, but I think 80ml is not 250ml. A normal cup (of tea e.g.)is 200ml. A common glass of water is 250ml. All these are metric measures. My 2 pence. Gus. No offense please.

 

[frigilux]

Great Persil tin, Launderess---but everything written in the lid is misspelled, LOL!

And thanks for the cycle information. Have never seen a Miele in action.

 

[launderess]

Again

Cup probably isn't the accurate word but based it upon using the measuring "scoop" Henkel supplies with Persil sensitive. That object is certanly larger than any scoop I've seen lately and to my mind's eye resembles those clear plastic measuring cups that came with powdered American detergents years ago.

If one has time this weekend will take a few snaps of the thing in question.

 

[launderess]

This is it!

Pipe:

http://www.sparwelt.de/gratis_persilde.html

 

[whirlcool]

A few years ago we acquired some Persil from the UK. When we opened the shipping case we were bowled over by the smell. I had never smelled anything so strong before. After a few days every room in our house reeked of Persil abnd our noses and eyes were burning from it.

What I had to do was move the boxes to the garage and place on a shelf for about 3 months to let it "cool down". Then the smell was manageable and quite nice. I wondered if the boxes were overscented at the factory?