We're all going to die from clean clothes!
Oh, the carnage! Oh, the humanity!
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We'll die sooner from skin cancer caused by the tanning bed he's selling. Isn't this like a cigarette maker saying "Chocolate can kill you! Smoke our healthy cigarettes instead."
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I tend to ignore "research" that is related to commercial activities.
Well..
Dr. Mercola can provide good information, but I also think that he blows smoke out of his you know what sometimes.
His website, in addition to providing information, also sells stuff.
But what kills me is this: He writes an article about the hazards of cooking in metal pots. And then he's pushing a pyroceram-like (who knows) set of cookware that is made in...China! But of course he says 'oh it is made in a clean factory that does not pollute.' Yes, right, sure, anything you say.
And I think his statements that 'indoor air is way more polluted' is another giant "DUH" -- if you don't have air exchange your indoor air is going to be more polluted than outdoor air.
Fine, we've removed phosphates from detergents. But they also don't clean now.
For a doctor to say 'how clean do you want to be' just boggles the mind.
Dr. Mercola can provide good information, but I also think that he blows smoke out of his you know what sometimes.
His website, in addition to providing information, also sells stuff.
But what kills me is this: He writes an article about the hazards of cooking in metal pots. And then he's pushing a pyroceram-like (who knows) set of cookware that is made in...China! But of course he says 'oh it is made in a clean factory that does not pollute.' Yes, right, sure, anything you say.
And I think his statements that 'indoor air is way more polluted' is another giant "DUH" -- if you don't have air exchange your indoor air is going to be more polluted than outdoor air.
Fine, we've removed phosphates from detergents. But they also don't clean now.
For a doctor to say 'how clean do you want to be' just boggles the mind.
BS!!!!Chicken Little Syndrome-and yes----he sells Skin Cancer in a Box tanning machines.Go Figure!and hes worried about laundry products---Dr Mercola has been laying in his tanning booth too long!
Be Happy, Don't Worry...
Scaremongers!!!! Keeping your clothes (and BODY) dirty is A LOT WORSE!!!!
-- Dave
Scaremongers!!!! Keeping your clothes (and BODY) dirty is A LOT WORSE!!!!
-- Dave
I am shocked.
You know, I'm shocked. I did not realize he sold tanning beds. Incredible. I see nothing wrong with moderate tans from the sun - though with my German/British/Celtic genetics I don't get hugely tanned in summer - but the idea of laying in a tanning bed does not appeal. And all the things I've read about how tanning beds damage the skin DEEP within I find it truly irresponsible that he'd sell them, given his constant blather about how dangerous so many things are. Not if they line his pockets I guess.
I think he has some good things to say, I do. However, I also think he goes over the top. He's advised people not to use microwaves because they change the structure of proteins, denaturing them. I rather thought that was called COOKING and happened whether you use microwaves or conventional heat.
I think the term 'scaremonger' is very appropriate.
Now, as for clean clothes I do think that folks can often overuse detergents. That causes pollution in excess of what is unavoidable. But anything, even soap, has things like fatty acids in them and isn't that some of what these things are?
You know, I'm shocked. I did not realize he sold tanning beds. Incredible. I see nothing wrong with moderate tans from the sun - though with my German/British/Celtic genetics I don't get hugely tanned in summer - but the idea of laying in a tanning bed does not appeal. And all the things I've read about how tanning beds damage the skin DEEP within I find it truly irresponsible that he'd sell them, given his constant blather about how dangerous so many things are. Not if they line his pockets I guess.
I think he has some good things to say, I do. However, I also think he goes over the top. He's advised people not to use microwaves because they change the structure of proteins, denaturing them. I rather thought that was called COOKING and happened whether you use microwaves or conventional heat.
I think the term 'scaremonger' is very appropriate.
Now, as for clean clothes I do think that folks can often overuse detergents. That causes pollution in excess of what is unavoidable. But anything, even soap, has things like fatty acids in them and isn't that some of what these things are?
Heysoose khrist!
I'll tell ya, if we believed and followed everything the "doom sayers" preached, or these who spew out this "scare tactic stuff" to sell some product, we would all be whimpy little shadows of our former selves who'd cringe and cower in fear everytime we walked into any department or grocery store! Or if this guy has anything to say about it, our own homes! WOW!
Yes everything is bad for you and will kill you.... eventually.
Kevin
I'll tell ya, if we believed and followed everything the "doom sayers" preached, or these who spew out this "scare tactic stuff" to sell some product, we would all be whimpy little shadows of our former selves who'd cringe and cower in fear everytime we walked into any department or grocery store! Or if this guy has anything to say about it, our own homes! WOW!
Yes everything is bad for you and will kill you.... eventually.
Kevin
And on a related note . . .
. . . ever notice that every radio and cable TV ad about surviving the breakdown and total collapse of the American economic system always has something for you to buy . . . with American dollars.
The "endofamerica.com" doofus was predicting that a loaf of bread would sell for $8.00 by the end of 2011 and the only way to survive was to subscribe to his newsletter. Well, the end of 2011 is literally hours away and I still can't find any $8.00 bread at the local Fresh & Easy (unless I grab 2 loaves and even then, it's not $8.00).
Next, of course, will be the 2012ers whose victims will end up poorer but not necessarily wiser on December 22, 2012 . . . just like they did on January 2, 2001.
. . . ever notice that every radio and cable TV ad about surviving the breakdown and total collapse of the American economic system always has something for you to buy . . . with American dollars.
The "endofamerica.com" doofus was predicting that a loaf of bread would sell for $8.00 by the end of 2011 and the only way to survive was to subscribe to his newsletter. Well, the end of 2011 is literally hours away and I still can't find any $8.00 bread at the local Fresh & Easy (unless I grab 2 loaves and even then, it's not $8.00).
Next, of course, will be the 2012ers whose victims will end up poorer but not necessarily wiser on December 22, 2012 . . . just like they did on January 2, 2001.
For goodness sake, DON'T shop at whole foods!
You WILL pay $8 for a loaf of bread
(I was there yesterday buying dried fruit at inflated prices, but at least I can find some of the things that I was looking for, like dried figs. But damn the prices they charge on the same stuff you can get at Kroger !)
You WILL pay $8 for a loaf of bread
(I was there yesterday buying dried fruit at inflated prices, but at least I can find some of the things that I was looking for, like dried figs. But damn the prices they charge on the same stuff you can get at Kroger !)
Just curious
has anyone used Ecos or Seventh Generation detergent? I wonder how thy work?
has anyone used Ecos or Seventh Generation detergent? I wonder how thy work?
I'd guess they are ineffective.
No but I had to investigate their tree-hugging looking package of greige (grey-beige) material.
It was an envelope OVER a plastic bottle.
Totally excess and totally not necessary. It is only to give the appearance that their product is packaged "GREENER".
Mehitnks their products simply stroke CL--, and are not at all any different than a tried-and-true detergent, except they are rather ineffective.
I have a friend who is hygienically challenged. Won't shower every day because "It drys the skin". (You STINK buddy!)
His kitchen is a greasy mess. Dishwasher gets tree-hugging "GREENER" addictive rather than proper detergent. The dishes come out dirty and greasy.
Needless to say, we have parted ways.
STICK TO WHAT WORKS!
If you want to be greener have on less kid or adopt one already born.
No but I had to investigate their tree-hugging looking package of greige (grey-beige) material.
It was an envelope OVER a plastic bottle.
Totally excess and totally not necessary. It is only to give the appearance that their product is packaged "GREENER".
Mehitnks their products simply stroke CL--, and are not at all any different than a tried-and-true detergent, except they are rather ineffective.
I have a friend who is hygienically challenged. Won't shower every day because "It drys the skin". (You STINK buddy!)
His kitchen is a greasy mess. Dishwasher gets tree-hugging "GREENER" addictive rather than proper detergent. The dishes come out dirty and greasy.
Needless to say, we have parted ways.
STICK TO WHAT WORKS!
If you want to be greener have on less kid or adopt one already born.
Here, here.
Some people have managed to get the Seventh Generation stuff to work - but I've always lived in regions with hard water. So I've never been one of them.
I used to buy stuff from a food co-op; it came in a 10" cube of a box and was super concentrated. That worked. (It was 'bio-something' - like biokleen but that wasn't it). That is the ONLY 'crunchy' detergent I've ever used.
I've been using the CalBen stuff for a while and that works IF you have adequately heated water. (It didn't work so well in my Duet until I realized that you had always to use 'heavy' soil so it engaged the heater.) It is only so-so in cold water, though, as it is detergent+washing soda -- a fairly old formulation I think. But it DOES work and DOESN'T have optical brighteners. [their bar soap works very well and is..pure soap].
I don't understand the American mania for only washing in cold water. Some things, yes, but not whites, wools (blood heat water works better), or sheets (95C baby!). Stuff doesn't come clean.
Now, I'm no fanatic either; if I wear a shirt, say, and it is not soiled as I only had it on for a couple of hours, and I always wear a t-shirt I will wear it again. So I believe that you wash dirty clothes and when you wash them, you wash them so they are clean. This means detergent, water, and heat.
Like having salt in a fabric, where the salt crystals rip it I cannot help but think that dirt in fabrics shortens their lives. So how environmentally sensitive is it if your clothes don't come clean, they wear out quicker, and you have to buy more? Is heating water and using the washer less of an impact than buying a new garment?
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Some people have managed to get the Seventh Generation stuff to work - but I've always lived in regions with hard water. So I've never been one of them.
I used to buy stuff from a food co-op; it came in a 10" cube of a box and was super concentrated. That worked. (It was 'bio-something' - like biokleen but that wasn't it). That is the ONLY 'crunchy' detergent I've ever used.
I've been using the CalBen stuff for a while and that works IF you have adequately heated water. (It didn't work so well in my Duet until I realized that you had always to use 'heavy' soil so it engaged the heater.) It is only so-so in cold water, though, as it is detergent+washing soda -- a fairly old formulation I think. But it DOES work and DOESN'T have optical brighteners. [their bar soap works very well and is..pure soap].
I don't understand the American mania for only washing in cold water. Some things, yes, but not whites, wools (blood heat water works better), or sheets (95C baby!). Stuff doesn't come clean.
Now, I'm no fanatic either; if I wear a shirt, say, and it is not soiled as I only had it on for a couple of hours, and I always wear a t-shirt I will wear it again. So I believe that you wash dirty clothes and when you wash them, you wash them so they are clean. This means detergent, water, and heat.
Like having salt in a fabric, where the salt crystals rip it I cannot help but think that dirt in fabrics shortens their lives. So how environmentally sensitive is it if your clothes don't come clean, they wear out quicker, and you have to buy more? Is heating water and using the washer less of an impact than buying a new garment?
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