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HEY...BACKOFF the 1957 Kenmore!

Mixed results from water saving front loaders, less water, means runs longer, same issues with new dishwashers, clean sensors make machine run longer because of amount of water being used or not being used?

Also I am amazed by the number of products on the market now to keep your water saving front loader from MOLDING? SMELLING FRESH?

I don't think that was ever an issue with a vintage top loader?

I want to wash my clothes once, not like a water saving toilet that you had to flush twice...

BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR........
 
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yeah i prefer vintage machines to modern ones, who cares if its effient or not because u get them because u love them with ur heart now sweztoyz, how much for ur bol wards? lol
 
Maybe I should invite them over and let them take a walk through the house.With all the voltage running through here she would run out screaming calling Green 911! LOL!
 
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Sorry to butt in from the other side of the pond, but such piety makes my blood boil............so i went for the jugular

These self appointed gurus and puritans drive me mad, we have loads of these here in the UK spouting there utter shite.............beware of false prophets always springs to mind when they get going

I work in re-cycling over here, and a lot of it is a load of old toss.........more about money than anything else

So good luck to you all.........use your fabulous machines with pride and pleasure, they are the real deal, not some overstyled piece of junk, that i would not wipe my a..e on

Sorry to rant but grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Have a good day chaps from snowing England
 
They just don't get it do they?

Incredible how people just assume that modern appliances are more energy-efficient. What exactly is the point in having to run your "energy efficient" dishwasher 3 times in order to get your stuff as clean as 1 cycle in a vintage Maytag or GE would get them? And the longevity of modern appliances? Don't get me going on that!! The plastic and polymer GE 2004 washer I was using in the house in Ogden has now happily been replaced by the '66 Inglis and guess what? Clothes actually get clean on the first wash... OY!!
 
The last week,

I have tried hard not to use any household appliance built after 1960. Cheated a bit, nuked the potatoes in the microwave the other evening. Otherwise, totally B/W cooking and cleaning.

It beats the hell out of me how a 'modern' appliance is supposed to be somehow better, just because it uses less water or electricity.

The whole point of cooking and cleaning is to, well, cook and clean.

And yes, I also picked up on the &mom point some people are hinting at.

Besides, the vintage appliances are just plain better built. Microprocessors are a good and they make many wonderful things possible. Unfortunately, their primary use is to build appliances more cheaply.
 
Miss my Maytag reverse rack DW

I totally miss getting able to put my sun-tea jars in the top rack. Im a Kombucha tea FREAK!!! I can put large things in my Bosch's top rack, but not a sun-tea jar, DAMNIT!!!!......Bill in Az.....
 
It's funny how in the early days only the top of the line machines had microprocessors. If you had a dishwasher with electronic controls you had something special. Now you can buy a $200 dishwasher with electronic controls because it's cheaper to build than a mechanical timer.
 
This post brought to mind the girls on one of the Sunday morning shows green, eco green-green people. The house was cold and they wear sweaters or jackets ( to save on heat), they wash in cold water, energy bulbs etc. The whole time the mother was telling of the girls insistance to live green. ahhh us americans, it was a great big house, i kind of thought,if they moved to a 3 bedroom ranch they could be warm, and have about the same size carbon footprint. Why are so many, penny wise and pound foolish? They say there is a terrible water shortage looming in Ca. I guess you California people can expect F/L HE whether you like it or not. Who would think, it would come to this.
 
McMansions

Well, for a time it seemed like the only new homes being built in new Calif. subdivisions were McMansions. Like two story, four plus bedroom, 3,000 sq ft affairs. I started to feel left out because my '41 home is only 1,650sq ft, and about 1/3 of that is in a '70's addition. In town, however, nearly all the new home construction I've seen has been attached condo style. Still big, but probably much more energy efficient than the McMansions in the burbs.

Unfortunately there really can't be much argument that a vintage top loading automatic washer will use at least twice as much water as a modern front loader. With California in an extended drought, water conservation is becoming more and more important. So while I like the old top loaders in my collection, the only machines that get regular use are the front loaders.
 
I am into classic cars and one article in a magazine that I read last year referenced that the state of Vermont was trying to pass a law prohibiting older cars of a certain age to be driven in their state because of pollution and the carbon footprint they leave behind. Of course, vintage car owners were up in arms about it. I can see this craziness’ happening for older appliances too!
 
Well, here in California, there are strict smog rules for cars made since 1975. Earlier than that, they are exempt from bi-annual testing/certification. There have been noises about going after older cars, but so far these have not been successful. Originally there was supposed to be a "rolling exemption" where cars older than 25 years were exempted. But they halted that some years ago; otherwise cars older than 1984 would be exempt today. It does add the expense of keeping a car (the smog inspection fee is around $70) and it can interfere with attempts to improve/modify the engine so that it still passes the emissions tests but runs better. There is a whole emissions testing industry that has sprung up here... for better or worse...

Some people do use the smog exemption as a way to drive a polluter, but most of the car collectors I know try to keep their older cars in tip top running condition and they are relatively clean. Plus most collectors don't put a lot of miles on their "babies" anyway. Too much risk of accidental damage and normal wear and tear. California has a strong classic car culture and some collectors (like Jay Leno) have a fair amount of political influence. Once in a while one sees someone driving a post-75 car that is obviously in poor running condition. Probably not smogged, not registered, not insured, and driven by someone without a license as well. The gendarmes seem to cull these fairly quickly, lol.
 
Energy efficient.....

This is the first time I've read this thread after learning of it from a friend. Maybe some current appliances are much more efficient(?),however, I really love the vintage !! I do have a kenmore(Frigidaire built) front loader also,it's nice,but noisey in drain & spin! To each his/her own. I suspect much of the "push" on new is politics. No new range has the charm of my 56 & 57 HOTPOINT ranges. Love those 1960's KENMORE washers and dryers too! Anyway, most appliances are probably mostly efficient when used correctly,some more than others. Best regards to all my fellow members,Walt
 

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