uh huh, getting right on that...
Oh Whatever ***rolls eyes***
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I get those messages on my videos too. My return comment is I am not filling up a landfill with plastic HE washers ever few years like they are.
I get those messages on my videos too. My return comment is I am not filling up a landfill with plastic HE washers ever few years like they are.
Joshua and Mom? How interesting.....
The Loons
Most of my videos on YouTube involve older vacuums, and the GE Filter-Flo, and I'm constantly getting messages from these crazies saying I should get a Dyson or a Whirlpool Duet or something equally lame.
I just simply reply and say that I use machines that WORK for their intended purpose...not just make a show at it.
I personally can't wait until I get that old Highlander washer up and running.....i'm sure they'll be out in force to criticize that one!
Most of my videos on YouTube involve older vacuums, and the GE Filter-Flo, and I'm constantly getting messages from these crazies saying I should get a Dyson or a Whirlpool Duet or something equally lame.
I just simply reply and say that I use machines that WORK for their intended purpose...not just make a show at it.
I personally can't wait until I get that old Highlander washer up and running.....i'm sure they'll be out in force to criticize that one!
Soon there will be demonstrations at wash-ins! LOL
High Efficency!
They just think newer is high efficency. Given the fact that most of them take at least an hour to do a load of clothes while they "nutate" and "jostle" clothes around in small amounts of water and weak detergent! I can't see any savings in having a motor run that long versus the shorter but more effective cycle of a vintage machine. What's more the new plastic POS machine will see it's way to landfill in usually under 10 years.
For example. In addition to my Frigidaire I have a 90's Whirlpool Direct Drive with the dual action shredder installed. I was amazed when I got my Frigidaire how much lint came from those clothes and how dirty the water was when I washed them. I'll bet some of these people would be disgusted to see how dirty their clothing is if it were washed in one of our "vintage" machines.
They just think newer is high efficency. Given the fact that most of them take at least an hour to do a load of clothes while they "nutate" and "jostle" clothes around in small amounts of water and weak detergent! I can't see any savings in having a motor run that long versus the shorter but more effective cycle of a vintage machine. What's more the new plastic POS machine will see it's way to landfill in usually under 10 years.
For example. In addition to my Frigidaire I have a 90's Whirlpool Direct Drive with the dual action shredder installed. I was amazed when I got my Frigidaire how much lint came from those clothes and how dirty the water was when I washed them. I'll bet some of these people would be disgusted to see how dirty their clothing is if it were washed in one of our "vintage" machines.
pturo
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It is never economical nor ecological to replace something that works perfectly for energy efficiency alone.
When the furnace breaks, get a new high efficency model by all means, but don't just replace one, it takes about 20 years to pay for itself, that way.
The carbon foot print to manufacture metal, paint,plastic, wiring and all the components are staggering, plus the shipping of these components and shipping of the assembled product to the retailer, then to the consumer should be factors in"just buying new" with an energy star next to it just to feel better. Let's not even bring up the cost of credit many use to finance "new and efficient".
We don't really have a way to put a price tag on the enviromental cost of a product purchase like we do an economic one, nor are products labeled as such(carbon footprint to bring to market) save for EEF ratings.
Seems to me if a new product saves x amount of dollars a year in energy costs, costs y amount of dollars to purchase but costs z in carbon footprint to manufacture and deliver, one could plug in costs to the formula to see a ratio or relationship.
I can't think of single reason to throw something away that works well and purchase new just because of energy savings, unless there is a 100% rebate on the item, if you are really thinking green about things.
Appliances, like life, need to be rode hard till the wheels fall off, then fix em.
When the furnace breaks, get a new high efficency model by all means, but don't just replace one, it takes about 20 years to pay for itself, that way.
The carbon foot print to manufacture metal, paint,plastic, wiring and all the components are staggering, plus the shipping of these components and shipping of the assembled product to the retailer, then to the consumer should be factors in"just buying new" with an energy star next to it just to feel better. Let's not even bring up the cost of credit many use to finance "new and efficient".
We don't really have a way to put a price tag on the enviromental cost of a product purchase like we do an economic one, nor are products labeled as such(carbon footprint to bring to market) save for EEF ratings.
Seems to me if a new product saves x amount of dollars a year in energy costs, costs y amount of dollars to purchase but costs z in carbon footprint to manufacture and deliver, one could plug in costs to the formula to see a ratio or relationship.
I can't think of single reason to throw something away that works well and purchase new just because of energy savings, unless there is a 100% rebate on the item, if you are really thinking green about things.
Appliances, like life, need to be rode hard till the wheels fall off, then fix em.
High efficiency my ass!!! I bet that fabulous Kenmore will last at least 5 times longer than any POS machine made today!!!!
autowasherfreak
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uh huh, getting right on that...
When hell freezes over, when pigs fly!
When hell freezes over, when pigs fly!
While getting positive comments are nice, bogus comments such as these are enough of a reason for me to not have comments on.
Too funny Robert! Glad to see that having a machine outlive the current life-cycle of an appliance 5 times is a huge energy saver, from excess scrap!! ;-)
Ben
Too funny Robert! Glad to see that having a machine outlive the current life-cycle of an appliance 5 times is a huge energy saver, from excess scrap!! ;-)
Ben
Wasn't that a suds-saver?
*giggle*
"Oh, thanks for the note. You know, I bought this new in 1957 (yes, you can be jealous of how good I look for my age), and they've worked so well that it just slipped my mind to replace them. Great point!"
"Oh, thanks for the note. You know, I bought this new in 1957 (yes, you can be jealous of how good I look for my age), and they've worked so well that it just slipped my mind to replace them. Great point!"
Which is why comments
are disabled on my Youtube postings.
Folks like that might mean well, but I say, never give a sucka' a chance.
And who would want a HE-FL when they could have that beauty?
are disabled on my Youtube postings.
Folks like that might mean well, but I say, never give a sucka' a chance.
And who would want a HE-FL when they could have that beauty?
joshua and mom
i'm sorry i couldn't resist going to u tube and viewing that awesome washer video and then posting a tacky, nasty little comment aimed at all the people who think "energy saving" and "high efficiency" beats quality workmanship and nostalgia. but then again they probably don't appreciate "coppertone" "avacado" and "harvest gold" like i do either, nor do they have 7 dishwashers in their kitchen, all built in the 50's, 60's and 70's. oh well, i can have my say at least! it's a beautiful washer and a great video!!!!!!
i'm sorry i couldn't resist going to u tube and viewing that awesome washer video and then posting a tacky, nasty little comment aimed at all the people who think "energy saving" and "high efficiency" beats quality workmanship and nostalgia. but then again they probably don't appreciate "coppertone" "avacado" and "harvest gold" like i do either, nor do they have 7 dishwashers in their kitchen, all built in the 50's, 60's and 70's. oh well, i can have my say at least! it's a beautiful washer and a great video!!!!!!
Dumb comments like that from folks that are basically stupid-for one thing THEY are NOT paying your utility bills.the 1957 Kenmore washer will outlast the newer ones made today-as so many other posters point out.I don't think filling dumps and landfills with USABLE machines is the answer to energy and material efficiency.Yes-the newer machines will have a date with the crusher or shredder sooner than the older one.when I go to Classic Refuse Trucks website and watch the videos-there are more videos of NEWER machines getting crushed in the trash trucks than older machines.I bet its pretty RARE a 1957 Kenmore washer is set out on the curb for pickup!I ENJOYED the video clip of the machine and it did remind me of my Grandmothers machine.And don't some of these energy and water zealots have any emotions on these machines-didn't THEIR mother or Grandmother have such a machine?
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But that's exactly the point that's lost on dopes like those....it's the nostalgia and the memories of a time gone by these machines bring back...and you can't buy that anywhere.
danemodsandy
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What Gets Me...
...Is that most major appliances (to say nothing of cars) use more energy in their manufacture than they will during their entire service life. If one's use of something is moderate, keeping the old can actually be the better choice for the planet.
I have a neighbour who fell all over himself to buy a hybrid SUV, which, it turns out, gets about 27 mpg highway. That's what my 1988 Volvo 240 station wagon gets without the A/C running. So - who did the planet a favour?
...Is that most major appliances (to say nothing of cars) use more energy in their manufacture than they will during their entire service life. If one's use of something is moderate, keeping the old can actually be the better choice for the planet.
I have a neighbour who fell all over himself to buy a hybrid SUV, which, it turns out, gets about 27 mpg highway. That's what my 1988 Volvo 240 station wagon gets without the A/C running. So - who did the planet a favour?
HEY...BACKOFF the 1957 Kenmore!
Mixed results from water saving front loaders, less water, means runs longer, same issues with new dishwashers, clean sensors make machine run longer because of amount of water being used or not being used?
Also I am amazed by the number of products on the market now to keep your water saving front loader from MOLDING? SMELLING FRESH?
I don't think that was ever an issue with a vintage top loader?
I want to wash my clothes once, not like a water saving toilet that you had to flush twice...
BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR........
Mixed results from water saving front loaders, less water, means runs longer, same issues with new dishwashers, clean sensors make machine run longer because of amount of water being used or not being used?
Also I am amazed by the number of products on the market now to keep your water saving front loader from MOLDING? SMELLING FRESH?
I don't think that was ever an issue with a vintage top loader?
I want to wash my clothes once, not like a water saving toilet that you had to flush twice...
BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR........
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yeah i prefer vintage machines to modern ones, who cares if its effient or not because u get them because u love them with ur heart now sweztoyz, how much for ur bol wards? lol
yeah i prefer vintage machines to modern ones, who cares if its effient or not because u get them because u love them with ur heart now sweztoyz, how much for ur bol wards? lol
bethann
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Maybe I should invite them over and let them take a walk through the house.With all the voltage running through here she would run out screaming calling Green 911! LOL!
electron1100
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Sorry to butt in from the other side of the pond, but such piety makes my blood boil............so i went for the jugular
These self appointed gurus and puritans drive me mad, we have loads of these here in the UK spouting there utter shite.............beware of false prophets always springs to mind when they get going
I work in re-cycling over here, and a lot of it is a load of old toss.........more about money than anything else
So good luck to you all.........use your fabulous machines with pride and pleasure, they are the real deal, not some overstyled piece of junk, that i would not wipe my a..e on
Sorry to rant but grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Have a good day chaps from snowing England
Sorry to butt in from the other side of the pond, but such piety makes my blood boil............so i went for the jugular
These self appointed gurus and puritans drive me mad, we have loads of these here in the UK spouting there utter shite.............beware of false prophets always springs to mind when they get going
I work in re-cycling over here, and a lot of it is a load of old toss.........more about money than anything else
So good luck to you all.........use your fabulous machines with pride and pleasure, they are the real deal, not some overstyled piece of junk, that i would not wipe my a..e on
Sorry to rant but grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Have a good day chaps from snowing England
turquoisedude
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They just don't get it do they?
Incredible how people just assume that modern appliances are more energy-efficient. What exactly is the point in having to run your "energy efficient" dishwasher 3 times in order to get your stuff as clean as 1 cycle in a vintage Maytag or GE would get them? And the longevity of modern appliances? Don't get me going on that!! The plastic and polymer GE 2004 washer I was using in the house in Ogden has now happily been replaced by the '66 Inglis and guess what? Clothes actually get clean on the first wash... OY!!
Incredible how people just assume that modern appliances are more energy-efficient. What exactly is the point in having to run your "energy efficient" dishwasher 3 times in order to get your stuff as clean as 1 cycle in a vintage Maytag or GE would get them? And the longevity of modern appliances? Don't get me going on that!! The plastic and polymer GE 2004 washer I was using in the house in Ogden has now happily been replaced by the '66 Inglis and guess what? Clothes actually get clean on the first wash... OY!!
The last week,
I have tried hard not to use any household appliance built after 1960. Cheated a bit, nuked the potatoes in the microwave the other evening. Otherwise, totally B/W cooking and cleaning.
It beats the hell out of me how a 'modern' appliance is supposed to be somehow better, just because it uses less water or electricity.
The whole point of cooking and cleaning is to, well, cook and clean.
And yes, I also picked up on the &mom point some people are hinting at.
Besides, the vintage appliances are just plain better built. Microprocessors are a good and they make many wonderful things possible. Unfortunately, their primary use is to build appliances more cheaply.
I have tried hard not to use any household appliance built after 1960. Cheated a bit, nuked the potatoes in the microwave the other evening. Otherwise, totally B/W cooking and cleaning.
It beats the hell out of me how a 'modern' appliance is supposed to be somehow better, just because it uses less water or electricity.
The whole point of cooking and cleaning is to, well, cook and clean.
And yes, I also picked up on the &mom point some people are hinting at.
Besides, the vintage appliances are just plain better built. Microprocessors are a good and they make many wonderful things possible. Unfortunately, their primary use is to build appliances more cheaply.
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Miss my Maytag reverse rack DW
I totally miss getting able to put my sun-tea jars in the top rack. Im a Kombucha tea FREAK!!! I can put large things in my Bosch's top rack, but not a sun-tea jar, DAMNIT!!!!......Bill in Az.....
I totally miss getting able to put my sun-tea jars in the top rack. Im a Kombucha tea FREAK!!! I can put large things in my Bosch's top rack, but not a sun-tea jar, DAMNIT!!!!......Bill in Az.....
repair-man
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It's funny how in the early days only the top of the line machines had microprocessors. If you had a dishwasher with electronic controls you had something special. Now you can buy a $200 dishwasher with electronic controls because it's cheaper to build than a mechanical timer.
She just got
smackulated by Jetcone!
smackulated by Jetcone!
smackulated by Jetcone!
And Jetcone's smackulations hurt real bad, take it from one who knows
And Jetcone's smackulations hurt real bad, take it from one who knows
This post brought to mind the girls on one of the Sunday morning shows green, eco green-green people. The house was cold and they wear sweaters or jackets ( to save on heat), they wash in cold water, energy bulbs etc. The whole time the mother was telling of the girls insistance to live green. ahhh us americans, it was a great big house, i kind of thought,if they moved to a 3 bedroom ranch they could be warm, and have about the same size carbon footprint. Why are so many, penny wise and pound foolish? They say there is a terrible water shortage looming in Ca. I guess you California people can expect F/L HE whether you like it or not. Who would think, it would come to this.
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