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JerseyMike

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I just heard that there's been a terrible shooting at a mall in Omaha. My thoughts and prayers are with anyone who has been touched by this tragedy.

I hope that no one from the Applianceville family has been affected by this.

Mike
 
We're here and OK. I was working an appliance repair call today when I heard about the shooting, just minutes after it happened. I listen to satellite radio in the car so was isolated from the local events.

Eight innocent people and the shooter dead, plus five injured - some critically. The city was eerily quiet during rush hour - people we saw were dazed and quiet. The shock and horror of it all is more than anyone ever thought possible "here" in our safe and secure little city. One radio commentator stated that there for every 100 people in this country, there are 90 guns so the statistics will catch up to everyone eventually.
 
What I don't get is why Von Maur (which is really a nice store - right up there with Nordstrom, as far as I'm concerned) and why a Wednesday morning? Although I suppose we should be thankful he didn't choose a weekend. Westroads is one of Nebraska's biggest malls - it's crazy on December weekends.

I'm glad to hear you're OK Greg. You live so close to Westroads!
 
Hi Greg~

I am glad you are ok..I had just left Nordstrom at our local mall when I heard the news on SIRIUS. We really don't realize just how vulnerable we are until something like this happens.

What can we do in this country to prevent this?..
Personally, I believe the world would be a better place without guns in it period!

Just my opinion.
 
Greg,

So glad to hear that you are all right.... I was at work when I saw the news bulletin on the internet..

My prayers go out for the people of your city...

Morgan
 
Greg and Mark

Greg i called your house and it rand and rang then i called Morgan! I didn't know what else to do LOL!! I am so glad you are alright. You too Mark!!

Take Care Everyone, Marty
 
Victims and families

I feel so bad for those innocent victims -- and those poor families, just hanging at a nearby hotel command post as the system processes the crime. Horrible. Horrible.

...and I am always upset with whoever left an assault weapon around for a messed up kid to execute such a tragedy.

Folks, if you just have to own those ugly things, at least lock them up for heaven's sake.
 
I am so very thankful that you are all OK, I too find this so hard to believe. It is so scary when you stop and think about all the "sick" ones out there.
 
I'm fine on this end. I can't "deal" with packed stores, especially around Christmastime, so I wasn't near there.
 
I'm with Shane. My first thought on seeing the news reports on this tragedy was, "Who needs terrorists when it's OK to own assault weapons in this country?"
 
Glad to hear you are all safe!

Was thinking of you both yesterday, Greg & Jaime!

I haven't talked to Brenda yet, but she's not much of a mall rat either, so I'll chat with her later.

I loved Omaha and thought to myself, what a nice peaceful beautiful mid west city.

And then all it takes is one psychotic depressed teenager who wants to go out with a bang, and be famous for his actions.

What a sad society we live in.

Someone take me back to the 60's & 70's!

MM/C~
 
Glad our Omahans are safe & sound. Once again, the shooter got it wrong; SHOOT YOURSELF FIRST, DAMN IT!!!

Shooting other people to make a statement, then shooting yourself so you don't have to deal with the aftermath is the ultimate, pinnacle of cowardly acts.
 
I am with MaytagMom

It is sad society today!..

This nutjob wanted to " go out in style" and "now he will be famous". Direct quotes from the madman himself.
So what does the media do?? talk about this story non-stop,showcase hysterical women, and glorify a mentally disturbed, sick young man. This is EXACTLY what he wanted and the mainstream media, CNN,MSNBC,FOX,ABC,CBS delivered it on a silver platter. I have said this a million times... 24 hour cable news is the downfall in many ways of our society today. Cable news cannot and would not exist without controversy. Sadly, this has even spilled over into once greatly respected programs like NBC Nightly News and The Today Show. The days of Cronkite,Jennings & Brokaw no longer exist. All we have now are just talking heads looking to spin every story to suit their need.
When I was in college, my major was communications/political science. I am so glad I never decided to pursue a career in journalism.
I pray Americans will one day wake up and not buy into what the mainstream media feeds them on a daily basis. If we don't watch, they can't exist.

**Sorry for the rant**
 
Well-stated Shane.

One local all-news radio station here in town used to provide feeds from CNN Headline News. Basically just the sound from the TV broadcasts. They dropped HN after it became all Anna-Nicole all the time and switched to CNN Radio News which is much more professional and generally only covers "real" news.

These days, ratings matter more than reporting actual news.

We wouldn't have incidents like what happened in Omaha yesterday if the deranged NRA lobby didn't have Congress neatly contained in their respective holsters.
 
oh boy...here is my soap box!

I certainly feel for the victims of this tragedy, and even for the young man.
However, here again we have a case of someone who can't handle life so "Let me go shoot up a mall and everything will be right with the world and I will be famous!"
PUHLEASE!
Where are this kid's parents? Do parents these days stop taking responsibility for their kids actions once they are past the age of 18?
How did this kid get to be 20 years old and be so ill-equipped to handle life?
 
Glad you guys are all okay.

Let's face it, these are just the manifestations of all the evil there is in the world today. This goes beyond any sort of mental or emotional breakdown or disturbance....you have to have total contempt for human life in general to march into some public place and begin mowing down people you don't even know.
 
There is just no such thing as real parenting anymore these days.

Now it's more about catering, and there are very few kids out there that have a feeling for the value of a dollar because they get everything on a silver platter, or for the value of a human life since video games have them blowing up virtual humans when they should be doing their chores or homework.

This kid in Omaha was apparently a problem child, his parents threw up their hands and had kicked him out of the house, so he was a lost cause early on I am sure. The stupidity in this case lies not only with the parents who didn't know how to do the job they signed up for one passionate night in the bedroom, but also with whomever provided access to the assault weapon.
 
agreed~

you are a wise man Ralph.
Now, what can we as Americans do about this craziness?..I believe the breakdown of the American family contributes to this. We are all products of our upbringing and the values our parents instilled in us.
 
The family-unit certainly has a lot to do with the crumbling of many children's values and common sense, but let us not overlook the schools in this country and the drift away from high quality education as a core national value and goal. The schools that are fully funded and graduating kids who are ready for college and technical schools are few and far between. ACT conducted a study a couple of years ago that found only two in five graduating students will be able to get a passing grade in a college algebra class. China is emerging as one of the greatest world powers that has ever existed, yet only 50,000 students in this country are studying Chinese at the high school level while in China, there are more students learning English as a second language than there are English speaking people in the U.S., Canada and the U.K. combined. In this country, we never tire of schemes and programs to improve our educational system and spend millions of dollars that is largely thrown into the wind, showing little or no result. If a program to really overhaul our education system and provide a free, high-quality primary and secondary education to every student in the country were devised, who would pay for it? We have spent 600 billion dollars in Iraq, but if we tried to raise property taxes to pay for quality education, we'd see the vehement and militant property owners marching in the streets against any increase proposed. I think this shooting, along with so many other tragedies of this kind that have occurred in the past are just symptoms of a broken system that sadly, will take a crisis on a national scale to wake up the people and come together to repair and move forward.
 
"deranged NRA lobby didn't have Congress neatly con

I can't let that one pass. The NRA is not deranged. They are protecting a right guarranteed to us by the 2nd amendment. The NRA didn't shoot up the mall, my LEGALLY owned guns did not shoot up the mall. A NUT JOB DID! This a-hole was bent on destruction, regardless of the weapon of choice. If he didn't have a gun, he could've used a knife, club, or hell, even a fertilizer bomb. I do not see people lining up against fork & spoon manufacturers for the obesity problem (or Fox & Jeff Foxworthy because they are not smarter than a 5th grader!). Look, I really feel for the victims of this tragedy, but taking/banning of lawful citizens firearms is wrong and would not help. I agree that more blame, or scorn, as it were, should be directed towards the media. The glorification of this crap should stop. Must we have 24hrs of constant coverage of these tragedies?

--After I finished typing this, I found this story on Yahoo. Apparantly, he STOLE the gun from his step-father.--

This was a troubled kid kicked to the curb with no support system. We need to see what is causing kids these days to resort to this sort of violence. When I was growing up, people got into fist fights. Now, it's whip out a weapon (gun, knife, etc) and end it that way. Video games? Movies? Old washers? (just kidding on that last one)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071206/ap_on_re_us/mall_shooting
 
Very true Greg..

I agree with everything you said..

Runematic- I agree with you also, imagine that! The glorification of violent crime by the media contributes to this greatly!
However, not to get into another political debate with you..I have a question..

What are you going to do if Pro-Gun Control Rudy Giuliani wins the GOP nomination? After all, as mayor or NYC, he sued gun manufacturers. I am seriously wondering what your thoughts and the thoughts of NRA members are on Giuliani and his record.
 
Shane, imagine that. We agree on something! I'm not sure about Rudy. He's as much a bs artist as any politician on either side of aisle. If he wants to win the Repub nomination, he's probably going to have to moderate his views on that issue. Suits against firearms manufacturers have already been denied and tossed from court. I am not sure if he could advance that particular agenda. Currently there are much bigger fish to fry than gun control. The deficit, eventually bringing troops home, fuel prices, inflation, etc. The thing that pisses me off about Bush is that he became a drunken sailor with the nation's checkbook. Spend Spend Spend. He reminds me of a Democrat (ha ha ha ha).
 
well actually....

We had much more fiscal constraint under the Clinton Administration and he was a Democrat.
Rudy Giuliani is a phony. The best thing that ever happened to him was 9/11. Prior to 9/11, the only thing he was known for were the scandals involving his mistress, now current wife. Ny'ers have his number. It is only a matter of time before the rest of the country discovers it also.
 
I also think it is a shame...

John McCain has been brushed aside by the GOP. He is by far the most qualified and deserving person to win the nomination.
I don't agree with McCain on policy, but any person who can serve our country in a war and be held captive and tortured for 6 years deserves admiration and respect.
 
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