P&G is at it again

[kenmoreguy89]

I'm really sick and tired of all these bans, regulations restrictions etc....

Scents cancirogenic? Okay so is alot of other things that keeps being sold, so are the cigarettes of which govs keep having mopnopoly on....
We're living in a world in hands of controls freaks who are themselves out of control!
I wonder what's the sense in forbidding anyway..okay they're be proven to be cancirogenic, but I swear if they started carrying the old stuff I'd buy in a second anyway,  why not giving the people the choice to choose!
Cancirogenic...there are surely more cancirogenic and  potentially dangerous stuff around than this,  especially foods and habits one chose to have, and the   allergens, oh my god? Wanna keep yourself on the safe side? Just like is  for cigarettes you may start writing "use it at your own risk because of: xxx xxx xxxx"and for alergens "it contains  the following allergens. xxx xxx xx"  and I surely will and make sure it's okay for me....don't worry! Will they start banning peanuts snacks soon?  What's the logic...don't get it. As long as people are informed....what's the deal in banning?
Time to:
Stop this nanny statism over any minimal bullshit, my life is my life and I want it to really be mine with all the enjoyments and conseguences I chose, think and decide are worth to be in my life......not the state or everyone else.
This is over  exagerating in my opinion....

 

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[danemodsandy]

Stefan:

Your point about vintage products using banned ingredients is well taken, but that still leaves the question of why Proctor & Gamble goes to such incredible lengths to create over-perfumed stenches that would gag a maggot.

 

[iej]

@kenmoreguy89 not really. What we are living in is world that went a bit crazy on using tons of artificially created chemicals mostly in the early to mid 20th century, without much idea of how those things would interact with our systems.

We also have pretty startling rates of cancer, so anything that eliminates unnecessary potential carcinogenic materials from the general environment and from products that come into close contact with us is a good idea!

 

[kenmoreguy89]

I suppose

Because this is what they think folks likes today,  and as other have said, maybe they're not that wrong...given the standard of many things and ways they do stuff, I can't say be surprised of the kind of smell they likes also...
Seems infact much relies not only in demographics and ethnicity, but also the age, as generations progresses, laundry misconceptions and inettitudes  seems to go togheter...
But it's not all like them of course.... but as long as they satisfy the most and makes their money, all is okay..I see things can just go worse for "us".
I really cannot  give any other explanation....
 

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[kenmoreguy89]

unnecessary

is the word.... who define what necessary is and what's not? You? The government? Who can do that better than me for my very self sake  or bad?
The world we are living in now is also the world where great part of food people eats is processed to unthinkable levels, is the world where parents thinks better to leave their childrens in front of the TV to eat crap and become balloons,   rather than bringing them out as it's time and energy consuming... oh and it's somewhat more dangerous than the stroke they're going to get at age 30,  is the world where dinners are microwaved instead of being cooked as they should be...yet they worry  more about detergents than the stuff that matters.and that anyway should be kept to personal choice and will, and if you hear these people their lifestyle is to every bit as  necessary as it gets, not for me, but I'd not dream to impose my ideas on them, not command them what to do.
I may well say that  heavily do alcohol is undoubtedly dangerous, as it is feeding oneself at McDonald every day, yet people are rightly given this decision to do those in the measure they wants and feels, granted that you're informed the conseguences of that, and you decide to keep doing it, it's up to you.. as it should be...so  I just questioning myself why for detergents shouldn't be given the same untouchable  freedom like it is given for smoking, drinking 100 beers a day, eat microwave garbage, not to move a finger etc...and they worry so much for things that should be out of their businesses,..they have no right to do that in my opinion! Ever.
Warning okay, but not impose or banning!

 

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[stan]

Think that James (iej)

Brings up a very important and often forgotten point (20th century)
Here in the States and prior to WW2, most of the mainstay cleaning products in the home where basic.
Bon Ami, Barkeepers Freind, Soap Flakes, bar soaps, Borax, Sal Soda, vinegar, baking soda, Clorax. Somehow they managed to keep house with those mainstays.
After the war and since, 80,000 chemicals have been introduced into the home, that weren't there before. Not counting the ones now used outside the home.
The "better living through modern chemistry" happened shorty after the war. Tupperware was something that came out, using a chemical that was left over, and had been stock piled during the war. Someone figured out another way to make something else out of it!
Windex, Lemon Pledge, Commet, Ajax, modern detergents, dish washing detergents, toilet cleansers, products in aerosol cans became available All these...after the war, and of course were scented with combos of plant oils, and chemicals.
We've since become use to scents and cleaning going hand in hand, and we get mad when the scents are changed. It's extremely frustrating given the horrid scents there coming up with.
However...A thought provoking question is...Do we really need them? And if we used just those "basics" for a month or so...and then were reintroduced to laundry aisle at the store, what would our noses pick up?

To be honest here... I started relying mostly on those basic mainstays that were here first! And have for a good while. And guess what! you really can keep a house and laundry clean and fresh smelling with just those basics!
I certainly don't want to disparage anyone's favorite scent, but personally after being away from most of it. I don't want it back.

I still use Fels Naptha for certain things, and don't mind the smell, but it goes away, so dose vinegar!

 

[tolivac]

Tupperware--came from a plastic- Polyethelene--this was discovered accidently when natural gas was compressed to like 25,000PSI-caused the plastic to come from the gas-a component of it.The plastic was first used as cable insulation--esp for radio communication and radar cables during WW2."Poly" was invented shortly before the war-by Bakelite Co,then it was discovered that the plastic was an excellent electric insulator and easily molded and extruded-hence for cable insulation.The "ethelene" in the gas was polermerized when the natural gas was compressed.Poly comes from both natural gas and petreleaum.

 

[stan]

Tupperware

Still was not in the home til after the war.
"Refrigerator Bowls" (glass) Wax paper, a saucer set over a glass bowl, and set in the fridge or ice box. were common for food storage.

 

[mich]

Answer -

Check Riteaid. I had never really looked much in there, for detergents until I heard Laundress, mention them. It's like a Grocery Store Time Machine Service. You can find older boxes of Tide with the old scent there.

I have a nice stockpile though (enough to get me (and probably a whole dorm hall) through college).. I have enough

 

[mich]

Also...

Avoid Liquid Tide. I've always hated the stuff. Buy Powder. Cleans Better, And isin't coated in such super strong scent.

 

[arbilab]

I've got some Liq Tide. Might be useful for presoak concentrates, that's all I use it for. It will make foam as a 'full load' detergent but almost anything cleans better.

It's like P&G invents this stuff and dumps it on the market without ever TRYING it.

 

[imperial70]

I don't get why Tide has to foam so much.  Even when I sue it at the "1" line it is very very foamy.

 

[danemodsandy]

Foaminess:

Maybe the Tide's working up a sweat trying to get away from its own smell....