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I wish they had a motor kit for the simple tumble washers. Something that's 12 volt D.C. so it could be used off-grid.

A simple motor that would slowly run in one direction for one minute, then the other direction for another minute, and repeat.

When you combine that kind of wash action with the spin drier, the likes of which I have tried, you'd have excellent cleaning action and the best extraction on an affordable compact scale.

Does the spin drier come in a 12 volt version?

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There's nothing fancy about these motors

A 12v DC to 120 60Hz AC converter would be able to power them quite easily.

A DC motor, on the other hand would either have to be brush driven or have fairly complicated

electronics.

I'd go with a standard 120 AC unit and a converter which puts out a decent sine wave.
 
Re: Reply 18

Panthera, I usually take care of 90% of the customers emails, and by standard we don't usually require photos or videos.

UNLESS there's something intriguing that I couldn't really understand in words or that can be an user error or similar.

However, lately we had to "make it a little more difficult" because of the amazon "Karens".

"Omg i bought a spin dryer and on the first use it failed horribly, it was a terrible disaster, i almost had to call the fire department, Hazmat team, SWAT, The Navy.

Ok what happened?

It just hummed and didn't spin.

Did you remove the shipping bracket?

No

So the unit is not defective, you need to remove the shippigng bracket otherwise it will never work because the motor is locked.

Why would I bother doing that? It's easier to place an A-Z claim, destroy your reputation, amazon will force you to replace my unit AND they will refund the order so I can have a spin dryer for free and make your company lose thousands of dollars and say the unit doesnt work at all.

Because of stupid people like that, that think they're smart, we were FORCED to make warranty calls a bit more complex. Who has a real issue ends up understanding. (Our standard procedure is asking for a picture of the product) Now when somebody is trying to be "smart" (they probably purchased the product, used it for almost 3 years, sold it on Craigslist or Ebay and a couple of days before the warranty expires, they start a warranty claim), it will be a pain in their shoes.

This is also the same reason we're gradually leaving Amazon. Too many scams, average half million dollars lost per year.
 
Regarding the Niagara videos. I have that task on my "to do" list for months.

But then we were hit by the COVID-19 emergency, everything was suddenly put on a halt and I'm working like crazy to finish two models made thinking of COVID. (one of them is a tumble dryer)

Unfortunately there's not much to "see" ona Niagara washing. I mean, I have in my lab an unit that had the safety switch bypassed, so it can operate with the lid open, but what you'll see looks almost like a cheese grater.

And the internal videos made with the GoPro camera in the drum are kinda hard to understand (and actually everybody feels seasick after watching it for more than 2 minutes)

The "wash action" is exactly like a front load washer.
There is atotal of 7 baffles in the drum: 2 medium baffles on each side of the hatch (11 and 1 o'clock), 2 mini baffles (10, 8, 2, 5 o'clock) and a large baffle at 6 o'clock position. that is the "rollover" baffle.
 
Customer Service

I suppose it's inevitable, but gosh - that sucks! I really appreciated the prompt, no hassle replacement of your spinner.   Amazon has their ups and downs. We had a major problem with packages not going to our house, but one down the street (similar house number) and got put on a list for too many complaints about missing packages.   It took weeks to finally get a real person to look into it, find out that it wasn't us, after all and restore normal service. So, yeah, they did their job, but the hassle to get there. Now, of course, when they take photos of the item delivered, it's a lot easier.   Anyway, best of luck with your company. We need more engineers like you and fewer middle-managers.
 
Panthera (and also all other AWO members that are also The Laundry Alternative Customers.

Come on guys, you know you're "home", you know I'm SUPER accessible, I don't bite (much) and you know how to reach me. Most of you even know my personal mobile number (easiest way to find me is through Whatsapp call, don't message, just call straight because lately I don't have time to type) and I ignore most of the regular calls unless I know the number because of annoying telemarketers.

I don't want to brag about that but there's a reason the word "director" is on my job title. I always run the extra mile to all customers, but for AWO friends, running two extra miles will be always my pleasure so, skip the system, talk straight to me and I'll always manage to do some instant magic to help you. (but of course, I'll have to sync with you and "throw" you in the system to have everything documented in the logs.

The only thing I can't help at all is with the backorders and delays... Our sales skyrocketed 3100% almost overnight because of the COVID emergency. Of course we're all thilled because of that (nah, truth be said, my boss is thrilled, I'm almost fainting so hard I'm working) Our three warehouses are literally empty (you won't find even a WonderWash lid) and the logistics team don't even bother to use the forklift to unload the pallets, the boxes go straight from the container to the FedEx trucks that form a line in front of our warehouse.
5 plants working 24/7 at full capacity and miraculously we finally droped from 37 to 23-day delivery delay. That's one product sold every 13 seconds.

Literally the whole USA and Canada decided to panic about the idea of using a Laundromat or the apartment complex laundry room, most people don't have room for full size washers and we're the only company that has a "full size capacity" super compact washer that fits in a closet and doesn't need special hookups. Plus, our other model has a germicidal light.

If we need to replace any product, the only thing I can say is "I'm sorry but you'll have to wait in line just like everybody else."

Panthera, regarding your Mega... I'll be glad to replace your unit and apply a free upgrade to Ninja, however, I'm sorry but you'll have to wait in line after you contact me and I find your order in the system.
The Ninja has "only" twice the extraction power than Mega and that thing is a real workhorse on steroids.

Full load of towels (Speed queen ultra-mate gas dryer) bone-dry in 9 minutes, way before the moisture sensor has time to detect the towels are almost incinerated and start the cool down. My recommendation is to always gnore the moisture sensor, babysit the tumble dryer, open the door every 2 minutes and feel the clothes. They dry REALLY fast.

If using a whirlpool "badass" dryer, use the "touch up" cycle.

By the way: I'm just finishing a shitty washer (literally shitty, that's all I can say about it) and as soon as I'm done, I'll rest for 1 day and dive back in the tumble dryer project. Once it's done, there are other three washers waiting for me (INCLUDING ONE WITH AN OLD-SCHOOL AGITATOR INSPIRED ON A MAYTAG WRINGER, then one inspired on a Hoover and finally the countertop washer-dryer combo) and then a new spin dryer.
 
Thomas,

Don't kill yourself, overworking. Without you, a lot of people would have had no solution - you've taken a good idea and turned it into an excellent product, several times!

Take a day off. You deserve it!
 
Compact machines

Thomas probably you should consider compact front loaders with spin cycle or H axis toploader with spin cycle.

I live in NYC and I know many people they wish they could have a European top loader(18 inch wide) or a compact European front loader (1 cu ft capacity)
 
Johnbee

We considered those but we were put in a halt because of the COVID-19.

Among our projects are a full size (17kg wash/8kg dry) HATL washer-dryer combo (and a "spin-off" GAS version) and a super compact (3kg) fron load washer that is extremely lightweight There's also a 8kg HATL fully-automatic washer, 1450RPM spin but that will be much more challenging because of the shipping costs (white glove) that could make the product cost-prohibited for most consumers.

When any of those products will finally leave this computer and enter the production line, only God knows.

There's also another mini FL washer that we're developing specially to be installed in a dead space almost 100% of homes in the world have.
 
And also the company changed the strategy... We're going to focus more on "mini" washers that is the market the company always focused and that lead us to a complete "glory" during the COVID-19 emergency.

Our recent sales numbers definitely made executives at Whirlpool, Samsung, Lg and Electrolux panic. We went, almost overnight, form an insignificant tiny company (actually microscopic if compared to those huge multinational corporations) to #1 in sales.
 
... and i just finished another project 5 minutes ago (2:49am)

It was kinda strange working on a project named "poo". Even more strange was spending the last 2 months watching poo. then testing poo, putting poo in the poo, running over 1 thousand poo cycles, taking poo apart several times and finally writing the "poo" report. Now I'm literally with poo right next to me in my bedroom. and I'm typing with the keyboard on my lap, sitting on my desk and with both feet resting on poo.

Now I can proudly say I successfully did s**t or be super proud for having designed the very first s***ty washer in the world.
 
Panda Laundry Spinner Update

Today, my Panda laundry spinner spin basket "broke loose" when starting to spin a second load of towels.
Thankfully, it was not at full speed when this happened or the results might have been disastrous.
The first load I did spun fine but was noisy - as if unbalanced in a way to make it "buzz" loudly.
My guess is that a suspension component has either broken or become detached.
The spin basket seems to be still attached at the motor connection.
When I have time, I will try to take it apart and see just what happened.

I emailed Panda (address on their website) and the mail was immediately rejected due to "mailbox full".
So much for getting any help from them!
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I still have the Panda spin dryer and now Ninja...

The Panda has held up well doing wash for our family, which includes pets. Washer I use has a spin of about 700 rpm, so clothes are partially spun out before going into Panda. The Panda can get loud at times.

I also bought the Ninja as I wanted to get one before the price of everything went up. Overall, I have to say I prefer Ninja as it seems to balance better, is quieter, and seems to extract a bit more even though rpm is same or close. However, Panda is two years old and the Ninja is a recent purchase.

I think my clothes are a bit cleaner as this extracts more water/residue left behind. Clothes dry in about 1/2 or 1/3 of the time, so saves time too. I'm sure this saves wear/tear on dryer and seems to make my electric bill less every month. At this point, I'm also sure I'm coming out ahead in savings with the Panda. It's hard to say how much of a difference it really makes in the electric bill vs. cost of spinner itself.

philcobendixduo will be curious to see what issue is with your Panda and if it's fixable.
 
I haven't been able....

.....to figure out how to take the Panda apart to see what broke.
Anyone here know how to disassemble it?

In the mean time, I need a spinner so purchased the Laundry Alternative Ninja via Amazon.
I just used it for the first time yesterday and was quite pleased with the balancing, noise and performance.

While I prefer the look of the Panda over the Ninja, time will tell just how well the Ninja holds up over the years.
I do like that the Ninja is made in Argentina and not China!
 
It's probably not worth tring to fix old ones due to technology and safety improvement in the new ones. And as you know you can get the new one for like $175 delivered.

I always fear whats going to happen when/if the tub comes detached while it's operating. As plastic and metal ages it can lose strength you know what I mean.
 

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