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Henkel's Persil does not feature "bio" or "non-bio" powders in its country of origin, Germany, because there is no differentiation in that way over here. All of German Persil products do contain enzymes, so they are all "bio".
 
Persil is the best

I use persil and always will have done.. If something does the job, why change it! unlike Ariel, when the clothes are drying, it smells fresh and clean- not musty...Ariel of old had a clean smell, although I always used Persil, most people I know have now changed to Persil, because Ariel and Daz don't smell nice or fresh!!
 
Persil is still my go-to detergent. I do change every now and then to try different things out, but I always end up back on the Persil.

Ariel used to be brilliant, until they brought out the stain removers and dumbed down the forumla of the regular powders. Persil has been far more consistent than a lot of other brands and like others have mentioned, it leaves a lovely light scent on things. Not too strong.
 
Henkel Germany originally licensed out Persil to the UK because it couldn't be bothered with doing what was necessary to increase distribution. This decision is one am sure Henkel later came to regret but it is water under the bridge. Lever Bros (now Unilever) has been approached at times over the years with offers by Henkel (and vice versa) the answer always the same "no".

This being said in many European consumer testing groups Ariel often beats Persil in some formats. Indeed if one is in Germany or Europe you can find detergents that clean as well or better than Persil (Henkel) for less money.
 
European consumer testing groups

They leap frog constantly in supposed "consumer testing" and always have.

Personally, I find the best test for a detergent is in the home, not a lab.

I have to say I'm grateful that Unilever held out. I've only used Henkel Persil once but Unilever is miles ahead in terms of cleaning performance
 
Ariel stain removers

Aquacycle, you may be interested to know P&G have just pulled their entire line of Ariel stain removers (along with Ariel colour powder tablets) from sale.

Anything on sale now is the remaining stock.
 
pulled their entire line of Ariel stain removers

Really!? Wow! That's a shame, I thought the powder stain removers were pretty good when they came out, but I've not used them for years. I suspect more and more people are realising that you can just buy some oxy clean from the poundshop or even just use good old fashioned laundry soap for stain removal and don't need to spend £4 or £5 on a stain remover as long as you use a decent washing powder.
 
Oxy clean from the Poundshop can't even be compared with Ariel stain remover powder and it's fantastic, complex formula. Ariel is the best stain removing powder on the market so far.
 
That may be the case, but it's unnecessary. It's no better than using a decent detergent at appropriate temperatures.

I had to get curry out of a shirt last night. What did I use to get rid of it? Pre treat with a bar of laundry soap that cost £1 in Home Bargains and then a 40 wash with Persil bio. Gone.
 
For TOL Detergent Powders

Such as Persil, Tide, Ariel, etc... you don't really need extras such as stain remover powders. If anything just perhaps a bit extra detergent for badly stained loads. Using the normal profile wash/stain cycles of most washing machines sold in Europe plus TOL powders should take care of things 99.9% of the time.

OTOH using when using liquid, gels, or those pod packets, then yes, you are probably going to need some sort of stain removing "booster".

Neither liquid or gel detergents contain oxygen bleach if they have enzymes. Oxygen bleach plus perhaps a bleaching activator, enzymes, and a alkaline substance (usually washing soda) is mostly what you find in most boosters.

Persoally just add activated oxgyen bleach or sodium percarbonate to laundry when using liquids or gels which gives the same results. Don't need more enzymes as the detergents already contain a complex cocktail . In fact the only time one uses the various "booster" pods (Tide or Vanish) is when using any of the vintage laundry detergents in my stash that lack enzymes.
 
using liquid, gels, or those pod packets

As I'm sure many MANY people will already be aware, I loathe liquids. I mean they really are the most pointless rubbish. Why buy a product that usually costs more but doesn't wash as well and causes a build up of mould and residue in the washing machine over time? I use a bio powder for everything. Liquids are just a completely marketing con.
 
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Yes AquaCycle, they were good. However p and g have said due to them not being as popular as they hoped, they pulled them.

I often wondered did the line of stain removers damage the Ariel brand itself?

As known, Ariel is one of the two premium detergents in the UK. So when one markets a line of stain removers, I always took a bit of that as saying Ariel on its own is not good enough, so you have to buy an extra product- would certainly push me towards another brand if I was normal and didnt have an obsession with laundry products :P

I always noticed that in the TV ads they were careful to never show the stain remover products being used with Ariel detergent but instead a "unbranded/generic" washing powder box.
 

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