cranraspberry
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Well it is about time they did the roll-out, and it does solve the problem of not being near a physical Walmart store. You still must deal with Wally World to get the American Persil so if you have qualms about that for now at least you are still out of luck.
Shipping prices are per order which IIRC means it is the same regardless of how many items. Once you reach $50 then shipping is free however.
Didn't go through the motions to see if sales tax is added for my state, but assume it would since Walmart does have a physical presence.
Well it is about time they did the roll-out, and it does solve the problem of not being near a physical Walmart store. You still must deal with Wally World to get the American Persil so if you have qualms about that for now at least you are still out of luck.
Shipping prices are per order which IIRC means it is the same regardless of how many items. Once you reach $50 then shipping is free however.
Didn't go through the motions to see if sales tax is added for my state, but assume it would since Walmart does have a physical presence.
mrb627
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Bought
Well, I braved the WM on the way home and picked up a jug of the pearls and the original flavored gel. Funny, someone had spilled some of the gel and you could smell it from quite a distance away...
Malcolm
Well, I braved the WM on the way home and picked up a jug of the pearls and the original flavored gel. Funny, someone had spilled some of the gel and you could smell it from quite a distance away...
Malcolm
My report on the Power-Perls.
1. Criticism of the cap (unreadable markings) and bottle (powder stuck on a shelf where the edges of the cap are supposed to seal) are justified. This is crappy and will put people off from buying again, imho.
2. The scent is essentially identical to the Australian Omo I tried a couple of years ago. It's a sharp, somewhat unpleasant floral scent reminiscent of dime-store perfume, nothing like the Persil circa 1990 I used before. It doesn't say upmarket to me.
Why the Henkel Persil should smell the same as Unilever's Omo is a mystery.
3. Performance: Excellent, based on one load. Not to get icky here, but it has been mentioned by others before, so...my biggest laundry challenge is skid marks. Short of using Clorox, Tide with Bleach has come the closest to handling the problem, but the Pesril did a better job.
My standard procedure is to spray with Shout, for what good it will do, and soak in "warm" (ha -- Whirlpool TL) water for an hour or so before a spin drain and full cycle in hot with T-shirts added. Kind of a poor man's profile wash. Persil had the stains out at the end of the soak period. I may try eliminating the soak and see how it does in just a regular hot wash.
4. Surprised nobody has mentioned the vintage US product the Power-Perls most resemble!
1. Criticism of the cap (unreadable markings) and bottle (powder stuck on a shelf where the edges of the cap are supposed to seal) are justified. This is crappy and will put people off from buying again, imho.
2. The scent is essentially identical to the Australian Omo I tried a couple of years ago. It's a sharp, somewhat unpleasant floral scent reminiscent of dime-store perfume, nothing like the Persil circa 1990 I used before. It doesn't say upmarket to me.
Why the Henkel Persil should smell the same as Unilever's Omo is a mystery.
3. Performance: Excellent, based on one load. Not to get icky here, but it has been mentioned by others before, so...my biggest laundry challenge is skid marks. Short of using Clorox, Tide with Bleach has come the closest to handling the problem, but the Pesril did a better job.
My standard procedure is to spray with Shout, for what good it will do, and soak in "warm" (ha -- Whirlpool TL) water for an hour or so before a spin drain and full cycle in hot with T-shirts added. Kind of a poor man's profile wash. Persil had the stains out at the end of the soak period. I may try eliminating the soak and see how it does in just a regular hot wash.
4. Surprised nobody has mentioned the vintage US product the Power-Perls most resemble!
mrb627
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Powder Cap
I noticed the pearls lodged around the perimeter of the pour spout as well. I assume there is a drain hold exactly like in the gel bottle for the pearls to drain through. Not sure this would deter me from purchasing again, but it could make for a messy first pour!
Malcolm
I noticed the pearls lodged around the perimeter of the pour spout as well. I assume there is a drain hold exactly like in the gel bottle for the pearls to drain through. Not sure this would deter me from purchasing again, but it could make for a messy first pour!
Malcolm
Product trickles through the "drain" hole into the spout perimeter area while pouring the pearls when the bottle is full. Probably won't occur when the level is reduced after a few uses but is an irritation while it happens. I took the spout out initially, may put it back in place later.
cranraspberry
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I'm actually surprised you're getting flowers from the scent - it is definitely stronger than German Persil, but quite similar to the current Universal Megaperls scent that I've always liked because it's *not* floral and fruity like P&G products... I also found it to air out quite well, unlike Tide. Washed a load last night, was a little concerned about the scent, but this morning felt that it was toned down quite a bit. However, I will certainly not be trying the "Fresh" version, since even the Original liquid smells quite a bit stronger than the pearls, let alone the "Fresh".
I also took out the spout and measured the recommended dosage: 3 Tbsp for a regular load and 5 Tbsp for a large load, so from now on I'll just use a measuring spoon instead of the lid.
Overall very happy with the results with two minor comments: the first is that it does seem a little more prone to suds than the DE version, and the second is that the liquid is VERY thick and did not wash out of my Miele liquid detergent insert properly.
But, at long last true competition for Tide! And when there's competition, the consumer pretty much always wins.
Who knows, maybe they'll even bring out a Colors formula one day (although I actually prefer the MieleCare powder for colors to Color Megaperls - clothes come out softer and the scent is more pleasant with identical stain removal properties).
I also took out the spout and measured the recommended dosage: 3 Tbsp for a regular load and 5 Tbsp for a large load, so from now on I'll just use a measuring spoon instead of the lid.
Overall very happy with the results with two minor comments: the first is that it does seem a little more prone to suds than the DE version, and the second is that the liquid is VERY thick and did not wash out of my Miele liquid detergent insert properly.
But, at long last true competition for Tide! And when there's competition, the consumer pretty much always wins.
Who knows, maybe they'll even bring out a Colors formula one day (although I actually prefer the MieleCare powder for colors to Color Megaperls - clothes come out softer and the scent is more pleasant with identical stain removal properties).
I agree the scent airs out well, and I didn't use an extra rinse. Not sure if my description of floral is technically correct, but as opposed to spicy, herbal, or fruity, yes I'd say it is floral in a cheap, synthetic way.
I'm hard to please on scents, though. In the Seventies, most every detergent smelled at least okay; now hardly any of them do. Obviously I'm out of step with something.
I'm hard to please on scents, though. In the Seventies, most every detergent smelled at least okay; now hardly any of them do. Obviously I'm out of step with something.
What Persil Calls "Gel"
In the German/Europe version is really more of a thick liquid, so perhaps the same consistency has been kept for the Dial version.
Persil "gel" from Henkel is nowhere as thick as Ariel Excel gel for instance.
In the German/Europe version is really more of a thick liquid, so perhaps the same consistency has been kept for the Dial version.
Persil "gel" from Henkel is nowhere as thick as Ariel Excel gel for instance.
I ended up taking out the pour insert out of the PowerPearls bottle since I had that same issue. Henkel's knows that its going to be an issue since I mentioned it to them online in FaceBook. They said to just take the insert out. Now you would think that they would just leave it out in the first place. I find there is no need for it at all.
I did see the uber sized Persil bottles at Walmart and they are asking $18 a bottle. Its twice the size of the 48 load and 37 load bottles. They also had the PowerCaps in a snap lid box too. In the Walmart I went to, they had moved the plethora of Tide over and made room for Persil, right next to Tide. I am interested on how the detergent rates in CU. But one thing if this brand is going to do well is not limit it to Walmart. I know I have said it before, but the clientel of Walmart isnt going to spend $10 on a premium detergent when Xtra is only $1.99 a bottle. Henkels needs to rethink this out.
I did see the uber sized Persil bottles at Walmart and they are asking $18 a bottle. Its twice the size of the 48 load and 37 load bottles. They also had the PowerCaps in a snap lid box too. In the Walmart I went to, they had moved the plethora of Tide over and made room for Persil, right next to Tide. I am interested on how the detergent rates in CU. But one thing if this brand is going to do well is not limit it to Walmart. I know I have said it before, but the clientel of Walmart isnt going to spend $10 on a premium detergent when Xtra is only $1.99 a bottle. Henkels needs to rethink this out.
I ran a large load of whites in the Calypso a couple days ago with 2 oz. of Persil Power-Pearls, 2 tbsp STPP, 140°F incoming temp (I always purge the line). However, I also used 1/2 cup Clorox LCB in the timed dispenser (regular/sanitizing version) so perhaps it wasn't a fair test of the Persil. It was a grungy load, accumulating for probably 3 weeks. The results were on-par with Tide HE power, can't say better but surely not less. I did notice when folding that the items seemed slightly more harsh to the touch than usual (did not use softener, but usually don't on whites). There was no scent remaining of the Persil, although the LCB may be responsible for that.
jerrod6
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DadoEs
For your next load try it without additives and see how it works. When I use the German version I don't use anything else with it, so that is how I am trying this new formula - it's on it's own. I did check out the laundry tips on the USA Persil site and it does suggest using chlorine bleach for some stains.
IIRC the Calypso is a top loader right? So it is interesting to see how this works in a different styles of machines.
For your next load try it without additives and see how it works. When I use the German version I don't use anything else with it, so that is how I am trying this new formula - it's on it's own. I did check out the laundry tips on the USA Persil site and it does suggest using chlorine bleach for some stains.
IIRC the Calypso is a top loader right? So it is interesting to see how this works in a different styles of machines.
Detergents like Persil with many enzymes, work best on a longer, warm wash. Flushing the detergent in with 140F water isn't exactly optimal*. That's also the reason why the underwear stains mentioned somewhere above vanished after a longish soak in warm water.
* the Euro Duet even flushes the dispenser with ten seconds of cold water before switching to hot
* the Euro Duet even flushes the dispenser with ten seconds of cold water before switching to hot
If One Is Going To Use LCB Then There Really Isn't A Rea
To use Persil, especially a version with oxygen bleach.
Everything about Persil like every other European "HE" detergent is geared to laundering under common methods/conditions found on that side of the pond.
Chlorine bleach is rarely used for laundry in most European households. Hence the development of complex and complicated activated oxygen bleaching systems and or enzymes. Chlorine bleach cancels out oxygen bleach and kills enzymes, that in turn hobbles much of the purpose of Persil.
To use Persil, especially a version with oxygen bleach.
Everything about Persil like every other European "HE" detergent is geared to laundering under common methods/conditions found on that side of the pond.
Chlorine bleach is rarely used for laundry in most European households. Hence the development of complex and complicated activated oxygen bleaching systems and or enzymes. Chlorine bleach cancels out oxygen bleach and kills enzymes, that in turn hobbles much of the purpose of Persil.
irishwashguy
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I tried it and Love it!
Took it to the laundromat on a couple large loads of sheets. I also combined it with the tide oxy and found a little goes a long way. It smelled just like Mega pearls that I have used prior. For 9.97 it removed the massage oil with no problem. I hade to do a double take last night when I saw it in Happy Valley, Oregon Wal mart. I did a double take. Persil @ Wal mart! This is a great value, you won't be disappointed
Took it to the laundromat on a couple large loads of sheets. I also combined it with the tide oxy and found a little goes a long way. It smelled just like Mega pearls that I have used prior. For 9.97 it removed the massage oil with no problem. I hade to do a double take last night when I saw it in Happy Valley, Oregon Wal mart. I did a double take. Persil @ Wal mart! This is a great value, you won't be disappointed
irishwashguy
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I have room for more
angus
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Finally saw the Persil line at our local WalMarts in CT - Shelton, Stratford and Norwalk - all had the same end cap display with the video. Also saw a TV commercial for the stuff last night where it was noted that it was "exclusively at WalMart". So being me, I bought the powder and the liquid. Same complaint about the pouring spout - ridiculous, you would think something silly like that would have been perfected. So I just removed it anyway. Tried powder on a few loads and some really grubby cleaning cloths and I have to admit, it did a great job.
This is a good development for me since P&G monkeyed around with the scent of Tide w/Bleach powder HE, rendering it no longer acceptable for me (offensively strong and lingering). So now I have an option. Actually WalMart didn't have a lot left on the shelves so am assuming people are buying it - or at least trying it.
Haven't tried the liquid yet so we will have to see about that, but I like the scent.
Now if they could only introduce a readily available HE unscented powder for my poor sister... she has tried All free and clear HE and it works OK but truthfully nothing that special.
This is a good development for me since P&G monkeyed around with the scent of Tide w/Bleach powder HE, rendering it no longer acceptable for me (offensively strong and lingering). So now I have an option. Actually WalMart didn't have a lot left on the shelves so am assuming people are buying it - or at least trying it.
Haven't tried the liquid yet so we will have to see about that, but I like the scent.
Now if they could only introduce a readily available HE unscented powder for my poor sister... she has tried All free and clear HE and it works OK but truthfully nothing that special.
cranraspberry
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For those wanting to try it out, there's currently a $3 off coupon available for "sizes medium and larger" (I'm assuming it will only work on the $9.97 option and up), and I saw a $1 off coupon a couple of days ago but the link no longer seems to work.
$3 off: http://www.coupons.com/coupons/?&se...rid=GN201211-n3&varb=473&cid=18741018&afsrc=1
$3 off: http://www.coupons.com/coupons/?&se...rid=GN201211-n3&varb=473&cid=18741018&afsrc=1
Article in the 3/16 edition of the Wall Street Journal about the Wal-Mart/Persil hookup. It's an exclusive agreement, meaning you won't be seeing Persil at other store any time soon.
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A war is bubbling up in the laundry aisles at Wal-Mart.
The world’s largest retailer has struck a deal to be the exclusive carrier of a new, premium-priced laundry-soap brand in the U.S. And it has stacked the brand, Persil, on store shelves right next to the reigning champion of high-end laundry detergent: Tide.
Expanding its premium-priced offerings may seem a puzzler given Wal-Mart's ultra-frugal customer base. But it makes more sense in the context of Tide maker Procter & Gamble Co.’s lock on the laundry business.
Driven by Tide, P&G accounts for 60% of all sales in the U.S. laundry-detergent market and 85% of the profits—both record highs for the company, P&G chief A.G. Lafley said recently. That dominant position has helped insulate P&G from pressure to cut prices or take other steps that might give Wal-Mart a bigger edge over rivals when it comes to laundry essentials. Last year, P&G was able to effectively raise prices on some Tide varieties by reducing the amount of detergent and number of loads per container.
“Wal-Mart never wants to have a weak balance of power against a supplier,” said Susan Lee, a former P&G employee who is now a partner at consulting firm Simon-Kucher & Partners, where she works with consumer-products makers and retailers. “If Persil sales do well, Wal-Mart can shift the balance of power.”
*****
Tide now accounts for roughly 39% of nationwide laundry-detergent sales and brings in around $2.7 billion annually in the U.S., according to market-researcher Mintel Group. Together with other P&G brands such as Gain and Dreft, P&G has slightly more than a 60% share of the U.S. laundry-detergent market, according to the company.
That dominance is a source of grim humor in the industry. What’s America’s most popular laundry detergent, the joke goes: Tide. What’s No. 2? Whatever is on sale.
</blockquote>
<blockquote>
A war is bubbling up in the laundry aisles at Wal-Mart.
The world’s largest retailer has struck a deal to be the exclusive carrier of a new, premium-priced laundry-soap brand in the U.S. And it has stacked the brand, Persil, on store shelves right next to the reigning champion of high-end laundry detergent: Tide.
Expanding its premium-priced offerings may seem a puzzler given Wal-Mart's ultra-frugal customer base. But it makes more sense in the context of Tide maker Procter & Gamble Co.’s lock on the laundry business.
Driven by Tide, P&G accounts for 60% of all sales in the U.S. laundry-detergent market and 85% of the profits—both record highs for the company, P&G chief A.G. Lafley said recently. That dominant position has helped insulate P&G from pressure to cut prices or take other steps that might give Wal-Mart a bigger edge over rivals when it comes to laundry essentials. Last year, P&G was able to effectively raise prices on some Tide varieties by reducing the amount of detergent and number of loads per container.
“Wal-Mart never wants to have a weak balance of power against a supplier,” said Susan Lee, a former P&G employee who is now a partner at consulting firm Simon-Kucher & Partners, where she works with consumer-products makers and retailers. “If Persil sales do well, Wal-Mart can shift the balance of power.”
*****
Tide now accounts for roughly 39% of nationwide laundry-detergent sales and brings in around $2.7 billion annually in the U.S., according to market-researcher Mintel Group. Together with other P&G brands such as Gain and Dreft, P&G has slightly more than a 60% share of the U.S. laundry-detergent market, according to the company.
That dominance is a source of grim humor in the industry. What’s America’s most popular laundry detergent, the joke goes: Tide. What’s No. 2? Whatever is on sale.
</blockquote>
mich
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What’s No. 2? Whatever is on sale.
While I'm not particularly, a fan of Purex or Arm & Hammer. I do, have a thing for All & Surf. I think they clean pretty well, and they don't have insane, nauseating scents like most of the newer Tide offerings.
Purex. They had a line, I remember called, "Complete" with Zout. I really liked that, but I haven't seen it in years.
While I'm not particularly, a fan of Purex or Arm & Hammer. I do, have a thing for All & Surf. I think they clean pretty well, and they don't have insane, nauseating scents like most of the newer Tide offerings.
Purex. They had a line, I remember called, "Complete" with Zout. I really liked that, but I haven't seen it in years.
