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I don't care for Walmart for most things but I do go there for the things I want. Still I think Walmart was chosen because it is the nations largest grocery retailer. I dont' think so but Wall Street does. My next choice is Target and local chains.

I would be upset about the labeling of ingredients except that no detergent tells us too much about what is in it except Purex. Look at Tide liquid and tell me what is in it. Look at Miele for colors and tell me the ingredients listed on the bottle. You can't see it on the label. You can see it on the web and in the case of Meiel you can't even see it on the web, however you can see it in Germany because that is the law. The Persil web site is not up yet so eventually the ingredients may or may not be there. I guess it depends on the regulations in the specific country and I have no expectation that a foreign company is going to bring its product to the USA and follow some other regulation that is not of this country. They may but they are not required to.

Perhaps oxygen bleach is one of those things that must be listed so eventually it may be there if this is the case, but for every other ingredient I don't think there is anything in the USA forcing manufacturers to disclose every ingredient beyond listing the patents. Can't find anything on a Windex bottle, Air fresheners you get the generic stabilizers, Solubilizers, Emulsifiers, corrosion inhibitor - HUH?

If it is not required companies are not going to do it and now this Pro White formula is trademarked. Is it that trademarks are exempt from listing? Samsung steam...xx... whatever is trademarked. Where is is stated that it is not really steam but just hot water blowing around in the drum. If I find a listing on a web site that Oxygen bleach is in this new Persil that's ok, and so if it is not on the box that is OK too. I am judging by how well it cleans. If it cleans as well as Oxygen bleach without Oxygen bleach I don't feel impacted.
 
As has been noted here before, Tide powders have percarbonate even when the label doesn't say it's one of the "with bleach" formulas. For instance, the MSDS for powders shows 3-7% percarbonate. I'm not too surprised Persil is doing the same thing...maybe there is market research that the word bleach scares some customers off.

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wonder how the "american" persil is on Kochwasche cy

Will it work at 190 degrees F?   Jerrod, you must do a test in your 1986.  BTW, I am loving the used 1986  set we got on ebay - best 400 bucks i ever spent (plus the cost to pick it up on the cape and dinner for the dear friends who drove us there in their big truck to get it - was quite an adventure).

 

As an aside, I think we are not going to try to keep and repair the Miele 1918 (it has a shot spider) - It works but makes a horrible racket and won't likely run again without a big repair.  It has a lot of new expensive parts (control board, power supply, brushes) and is in really nice shape so i don't want to just chuck it.  If anyone has any interest, please shoot me a note.  The great experience with the used 1986 makes me want to start hoarding the last of the 220 volt machines to have a supply in reserve!  There are still 2 or 3 series after the 1986 that are 220.

 

 

 
 
Update

Talked to the Department Manager for cleaning products at Walmart today, asked if they were going to be carrying Persil as advertised in this month ad flyer. He told me they do have Persil in back, but won't be putting persil out till the sales distributor arrives sometime this week, I will check later this week and see they have available.
 
Keyword is...

The Bottle is made in the US. The "ingredients" are "foreign" & imported components.

I love this. Megapearls & Gel on 'da Cheap.

Also - Called Henkel US div, and was informed a MSDS is not available at this time. However, the formulas for Megapearls (German) & PowerPearls (US) are identical.

I really need to call and ask, if the Liquid Variety is the same.

Persil. Persil. Persil. At the Walmart Price. What's not to love? :)
 
I tend to think we are getting Megaperls and gel at about the same price as people in Germany and the Eu can get it because there is no more middle man. Oh there is still some extra work and costs incurred but not to another outside company so the price will be lowered for us.

It is even OK if all of the ingredients are made in the USA. It is the formula that is important. I figure that it is easier and cheaper to mix liquids to the same formula in the USA but more expensive to make the perls in the USA because you must start from a liquid, dry the stuff into the perls shape and so forth.

I want the PERSIL web site to get up and running, because if it is anything like the Purex site we will be able to post comments and requests and also get additional usage tips.
 
In a thread elsewhere Whirlcool (IIRC) asks something like "where are all the jobs". Well look no further than that Persil/Dial Facebook page. A group or persons are paid to sit there (among other things) and respond to, keep track of, probably analyze and whatever what is going on with Persil's USA Facebook page.
 
Made my Wal-Mart trip

Bought two bottles:  1. Mega pearls. 2. Pro-clean liquid

Jury is still in deliberations, but preliminary speculation was a good job.  Did a load of towels with a table cloth.  The table cloth was the test subject.  Meatloaf gravy was removed.

 

Jeans are still in the dryer, nothing to testing, I think I like the smell. It's different.

 
 
Bought the Mega-Pearls poweder and the Regular liquid.Tried it-works good and has a subtile,pleasent smell.Like how the powder is packaged in a BOTTLE instead of a box or plastic bag.Easier to handle and reseal.HATE detergent boxes--the dammed things leak or don't seal-causing the remaining detergent to go stale.
 
I bought a bottle of the liquid, will see how it does in the Kenmore DD. Going to start some laundry in a bit so will see. So far I like the scent and the packaging, will try the pearls next time I'm at walmart. Any ideas for matching fabric softeners or dryer sheet scents? I have bounce outdoor scent sheets now, but have a feeling those won't blend as well with the scent of the Persil as they do with original Tide.
 
The thing I love about...

Persil, is the powder, doesn't really have a dust to it, like Tide, and all the other brands.

Almost every time I'm scooping powder, I sneeze because... of (I'm assuming the dust) or something else, wafting into the air. I've never had this problem using the Persil Megapearls, or a Liquid Detergent.

As for the bottle itself. I also, admired the design. I love the idea of Powder being wrapped in plastic, and being sealed with a cap, instead of a cardboard box that allows moisture. Means, no resorting to a knife or hammer to break up clumps :)
 
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I also appreciate the perls rather than a dust. Not sure why other brands haven't followed by example. Perhaps the perls are trademarked by Henkel?

Malcolm
 
That could well be. I never saw "perls" from any manufacturer but Henkel. A disadvantage I have often heard is that these beads get stuck in the dispenser. Probably no issue for you all with cold and hot fill.

As far as pricing goes: it seems like your Persil costs pretty much the same as Persil bought in a supermarket over here.
 

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