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Has anyone tried that coupon that I posted? I printed my limit out and tried to check out, the guy didn't know how to run coupons and couldn't figure it out... I have to go back up there and try with someone else, but let me know if anyone else has issues with them... They are from Persil's proclean facebook page and it prints from walmart.com.

I've had other coupons that use the coupons.com plugin work.
 
well, it has been a little over 2 months since I started this thread. it has been fun reading all of the replys. I still have not bought any persil. right now I am loving liquid tide h.e. original scent.
 
Curious..

Are we talking about the original "original scent"

 

Or the P&G "GoGoBoy Inspired Night with a touch of Sweet Bubble Gum Twist" Fragrance they replaced the original scent with?

 

Oy. I'm still trying to get over the latter. The old scent smelled so clean, so classic, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">iconic</span>. It's sad to see the company's direction, and watching it slowly fail. 

 

 
 
P&G is a global company so why be sad if you think it is failing? It is in a down turn in the USA but not in other countries. Everything is global...nothing is local....nothing is only USA, Nothing is only North American except the taxes paid, so I have decided to use what ever company does what I need, regardless of where it is located.

Sounds awful doesn't it, but it is the truth. P&G is spending most of it's resources in countries other than the USA because it considers the USA as a mature market...in other words...it can't any more out of us so it moving to places that don't know that much about them so they can make more money with a new thing.

I say, let them have THEIR way and I will HAVE MINE with what works for ME regardless of where it is made or where the company is based.
 
Persil liquid

Bought persil liquid, only used half of a cap (says to use more for large he loads) and this is what happend.

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Um.. it really doesn't say to use 1/2 a cap. It says to use line 1 and line 2. There is little difference between the lines. I think line 1 is 6 tablespoons and line 2 is 7. I don't like the cap as I stated earlier but I think 1/2 of cap is above line 2 which is the max you use for large heavily soiled load. My other thought is that since this can be used in a top loader as well as a front loader using a front loader may mean that you can use even less than they recommend.

My best bet with any new detergent is to start with the least amount they recommend and then go up or down until I know what I am doing with it. I started with less than line 1 and that works well for all of my loads however I have the machine full of clothes when using less than line 1. I will use less than that if I have a small load or the clothes are not dirty - no visible marks of filth.

For the Perls I just use no more than 2 tablespoons at most and that works for heavily soiled whites. I like to use the least amount of product that gets the job done and that way I save a bit of money. I have a smaller machine though. What kind of machine are you using and how big?

What did the last rinse look like?
 
These dreadful caps

I just went to the Persil web site, looked at the bottom of the screen and found a place to contact them.
I left them a comment about the caps and suggested that they do a complete redesign of them.
So if you don't like the caps, or don't like that bottle the Perls are in go to the web site and whine like I did. The more comments about it the better.
 
I got curious after seeing the suds from the liquid so I did a load using the liquid and filled to line 1. These are towels; bath, hand, wash, dish, which can be sudsy and hard to rinse anyway.

Pic one is the wash, Pic two is the first rinse, Pic three is the last rinse with Gain fabric softener added.

So I think you need to give the detergent some dirt to work with to avoid too many suds.

And don't worry the pink is not going to ruin the whites. These items have been washed together every other week for the last 6 years and there is no harm.

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The proclean 2 and 1 is not even on the Persil web site. I found the online walmart advertisement and from that it looks like it is supposed to be stronger than the regular liquid. It may be that, but when I see pro lift I think of Acti lift which is the thing some P&G products have. You would think it was lifting stains off, but instead this stuff coates the items with something that makes it harder for stains to penetrate the fabric in the first place. I think you need to wash the clothes in it a few times for it to take effect.

Anyway not sure what this proclean 2 is but I don't want something coating my clothes just so stains won't stick if that's what this stuff is doing.
 
Comparing the ingredients of the Original liquid with the 2in1 version, the 2in1 has one extra ingredient "Trisodium Ethylendiamine Disuccinate" listed.
Seems it`s an additional builder - water softener.
Should be great for hard water areas or when dealing with heavy soil, but I could also imagine it might produce more suds than the other versions.

Their website states it`s the most powerful Persil detergent. I wonder what genius came up with that BS. I mean doesn`t everybody associat 2in1 with built in conditioner ?
 
Persil

It's just funny how everybody on here always complains how tide sudses up too much, at least tide never sudslocks my machine, oh i forgot its persil nothing can be wrong with it.
 
Clearly there isn't as your not washing much and you over dosed.

User error.....

Looks like the euro ways are set to take over. That should have the die hard Tide and TL set frothing at the mouth LOL.
 
I have noticed that the liquid can be sudsy even in a standard top loader if the clothes aren't especially soiled. If you put the recommended amount of ANY detergent (HE or not) in any washer (front or top load) it is going to create mountains of suds with no clothes or clothes that aren't soiled. If I wash a really dirty load, I get very little to no suds. It doesn't mean the detergent isn't working, it means that there IS something for the detergent to act on, rather than just creating loads of foam. I washed a single bath towel this morning that had gotten a very smelly substance on it (cat urine, blegh!) but really wasn't soiled, and I didn't want to wash it with anything else- I used a small dose of the pearls in the Kenmore DD, small load, hot water, 14 minutes agitation on high speed, 2nd rinse enabled. It actually sudslocked the washer in the first spin! The first rinse had no suds, and I added Snuggle fabric softener to the second rinse. The towel came out perfectly clean and fresh, in fact, I used it this afternoon for a shower- No trace of urine smell left. On a usual load of whites, I never see so much as a bubble in the water.
 
Persil

No i did not overdose, i know how to do laundry thank you...... I put between lines one and two, which it says large loads 2 and use more for heavy soil, i can literally use a full cap which is 2x more of the recomended amount of tide and still does not sudslock! I have had this persil liquid for a long time now and i have used the amount for a "medium. " load which is line 1 i belive in a full large load and it still sudslocked! So no you are wrong! Not user error, i have hard water too not even soft, not only me, somebody else on here had an oversidsing issue with a cabrio, my point is is this is not an he detergent, i literally have to use a tablespoon for it not to suds but then my clothes come out still dirty looking so whats the point?
 
Persil Pro Clean Experiences

To preface, I am a big believer in powders. We use almost no liquid detergent in our house except for Method which is used on the dogs' toys since it rinses clean and if there is residue left, it won't be toxic if they chew a bear, etc.

I bought each variety of PPC when it hit the shelves. I used it in our Maximas, the short lived Speed Queens, and the Kenmag Cabrio clones. In the Maximas, the liquids caused almost no sudsing at all. With Original and Intense Fresh, the most I used was 1.5oz in a load. With the 2 in 1 there were some bubbles but nothing crazy, even with the Power wash cycle, which is notorious for sudsing in the Maytags. I had a lot of suds with the Power pearls but they seemed to subside and never error the machine. With the SQ, the sudsing was definitely more present in all varieties but the pearls were definitely REAL sudsy. As mentioned in the Kenmore thread, the pearls locked the machine up multiple times. Henkel's customer service service and manufacturing rep I spoke with seemed to think it had something to do with the recirculating spray "fluffing" the suds up. They were nice about it and even sent a refund in the amount of the two bottles of pearls I had purchased.

Since that post I have played with all the Persil PC more and have found the pearls are just not usable in some HE machines, they need to be reformulated. With the right dose 1.5oz-2oz, no suds at all with the Kenmore. I attempted another load with the pearls and had to cut the suds with FS before it locked. We will continue to use the liquids but the powder is just not there for us.

Also, has anyone noticed discoloration on creases and colors with the Persil liquid? I have two polos that I swear did not have the dreaded collar fading/graying before being washed in Persil. It might be my imagination though.
 
havin a heck

Of a time posting on this long thread with a phone....but thank you jarrod and mrboilwash for the info on the 2in1
Criswan...I haven't had any probs with over sudsing with the liquid or pearls but I have a water hog..lol actually the only detergent I have that causes excess suds is cheer stay colorful powder from 2012 and foca. Next year I will purchase a front loader He and it will all change for me I'm sure.
 
 

The main reason I like Persil is that I cannot use Tide products and the Persil has always cleaned and rinsed well for me.  Now the German Persil liquid is sudsy so I watch what I do with that but so far not having any trouble with this USA Persil liquid, but I think that if you are having problems with the suds then you should certainly not use the detergent. I know I wouldn't. 

 

Can someone explain what sudslock is?  I mean what happens?
 
Sudslock

Most newer HE machines have a suds sensor that will do one of two things if it senses that suds are out of control in the machine. Our Bosch HE washer would continually drain and then add water to dilute the suds until the sensor allowed it to continue the wash. Our Maytag FL and Kenmore TL attempt this operation but if it cannot after a few attempts it will abort the wash and shut down.
 
We talk about a sudslock when a ring of thick suds develops during a spin between the drum and the outer tub. Those suds can not be pumped away therefore they impede proper extraction during a spin.

I think the term Sudslock is AW slang just like Bobload, but I`m not entirely sure about it.
 
Thanks for the definition.  My machine has an Over sudsing light so I guess it would know when there are suds too.   Don't know what it might do about it though.   So I def think that if Persil is giving this condition in your machine then it is not the detergent you want to use. 

 

Thanks again.
 

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