Looks to be in nice condition if any collector is close enough to get it.
http://knoxville.craigslist.org/app/5292853619.html
http://knoxville.craigslist.org/app/5292853619.html
Philco Duomatic
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I've already called the owner and I'm working on lining up some labor to get into the back of my truck.
What Do I need to Know about Moving this Beast?
Tomturbomatic had a lot to say about precautions on how to move this combo on another thread (second post, thread linked below.)
Does anybody have a specific moving pointers?
-If the machine is tipped for dolly transport, which direction does it tolerate best? (back against dolly back? Right or Left side of unit against dolly back?)
-can the counter weights be arrested or removed in the field? Or is that just asking for trouble??
-How much does this thing weigh? I am looking at reports of 350-380 pounds.
-I have a pickup truck, but I'm worried about the lift up to the bed height. -Should I just rent a trailer with a low rise and ramp?
At moments like this I wish I collected vacuums.
http://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?5403
Tomturbomatic had a lot to say about precautions on how to move this combo on another thread (second post, thread linked below.)
Does anybody have a specific moving pointers?
-If the machine is tipped for dolly transport, which direction does it tolerate best? (back against dolly back? Right or Left side of unit against dolly back?)
-can the counter weights be arrested or removed in the field? Or is that just asking for trouble??
-How much does this thing weigh? I am looking at reports of 350-380 pounds.
-I have a pickup truck, but I'm worried about the lift up to the bed height. -Should I just rent a trailer with a low rise and ramp?
At moments like this I wish I collected vacuums.
http://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?5403
What about some ramps up to the truck? Sort of like what is used for riding lawn mowers, golf carts, etc?
christfr
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that's way cool.. find some young bucks to help you move it
mayken4now
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Wow, that is the Holy Grail of Philco's
Bill - Tipped on the right side looking at it
will minimize tub movement - but what I do with my Combos is go to Homo Depot and get a few sheets of pink panther solid insulation, stuff that all around and under the tub between tub and cabinet and you are good to go.
What you don't want and want to minimize is the tub bouncing UP and BACK into the controls, thats bad. You could break the controls or the pot metal pulley. Hitting the cabinet will just dent the cabinet.
I have new boots for that thing. Bought up the only stock left in England. $50 with shipping if you need one.
will minimize tub movement - but what I do with my Combos is go to Homo Depot and get a few sheets of pink panther solid insulation, stuff that all around and under the tub between tub and cabinet and you are good to go.
What you don't want and want to minimize is the tub bouncing UP and BACK into the controls, thats bad. You could break the controls or the pot metal pulley. Hitting the cabinet will just dent the cabinet.
I have new boots for that thing. Bought up the only stock left in England. $50 with shipping if you need one.
ovrphil
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Like finding a time capsule with just this in it
I look for these combos alot on Craigslist, and it seems like these combo sets of any brand are becoming rarer to find. I can't wait to see this lit up and working again. How did this remain so well preserved? Photos for all:
http://knoxville.craigslist.org/app/5292853619.htmlz
I look for these combos alot on Craigslist, and it seems like these combo sets of any brand are becoming rarer to find. I can't wait to see this lit up and working again. How did this remain so well preserved? Photos for all:
http://knoxville.craigslist.org/app/5292853619.htmlz
Thanks to everybody that's had input on this thread so f
We've scheduled a pickup time and everything looks good. Tom (T.Turbomatic)and Jon Charles have been particularly helpful in how to "pack" the machine so as to minimize damage in transit.
I'll be sending along pictures once the unit is home.
We've scheduled a pickup time and everything looks good. Tom (T.Turbomatic)and Jon Charles have been particularly helpful in how to "pack" the machine so as to minimize damage in transit.
I'll be sending along pictures once the unit is home.
1959 or 1960 27" Philco-Bendix Duomatic
Congratulations Bill on your first Combo, It is best to only hand-truck this machine from either side although since the transmission-motor and pump are on the right side of the machine when facing it the center of gravity is a little better if you truck it from that side.
This combo appears to be a no-vent condensing electric model. They also made a Hi-Speed NVCEM that had a blower to speed up the drying process. The one good thing about your model is it is quieter and simpler, they also made a vented electric and a gas version of your machine.
Philco-Bendix made all their combos smaller in 1959 hoping they would have even more sales appeal and to reduce the cost to manufacture and ship etc, unfortunately the load capacity really suffered and they did little or nothing to improve the reliability and serviceability from the orignal 50s design.
I hope moving it goes well, it is not really necessary to pad it inside as long as you do not tip it more than 45 degrees when trucking, and by all means don't move the machine by the control console. The control console is pretty weak on this model.
John L.
Congratulations Bill on your first Combo, It is best to only hand-truck this machine from either side although since the transmission-motor and pump are on the right side of the machine when facing it the center of gravity is a little better if you truck it from that side.
This combo appears to be a no-vent condensing electric model. They also made a Hi-Speed NVCEM that had a blower to speed up the drying process. The one good thing about your model is it is quieter and simpler, they also made a vented electric and a gas version of your machine.
Philco-Bendix made all their combos smaller in 1959 hoping they would have even more sales appeal and to reduce the cost to manufacture and ship etc, unfortunately the load capacity really suffered and they did little or nothing to improve the reliability and serviceability from the orignal 50s design.
I hope moving it goes well, it is not really necessary to pad it inside as long as you do not tip it more than 45 degrees when trucking, and by all means don't move the machine by the control console. The control console is pretty weak on this model.
John L.
easyspindry
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I've got the 1959 . . .
. . .version of the Duomatic and it works beautifully. I enjoy using it.
Good luck with this beauty. It looks wonderful.
Jerry Gay
. . .version of the Duomatic and it works beautifully. I enjoy using it.
Good luck with this beauty. It looks wonderful.
Jerry Gay
so many neat machines
out there I'll probably never have the opportunity to own or tinker with because we don't have a garage at this house! I'm so ready to build a new house!
out there I'll probably never have the opportunity to own or tinker with because we don't have a garage at this house! I'm so ready to build a new house!
launderess
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Child please....
If one can fit a portable dishwasher, two European washing machines, three ironers, two dryers (one European the other Whirlpool compact) and a Hoover TT into a NYC apartment, surely you can find room down there for something to "tinker with". *LOL*
Be creative, think out of the box, tap into your inner decorating self...[this post was last edited: 11/10/2015-06:24]
If one can fit a portable dishwasher, two European washing machines, three ironers, two dryers (one European the other Whirlpool compact) and a Hoover TT into a NYC apartment, surely you can find room down there for something to "tinker with". *LOL*
Be creative, think out of the box, tap into your inner decorating self...[this post was last edited: 11/10/2015-06:24]
Well...
there is just no room to fit anything around the grand piano which takes up all the living room! And the full sized yamaha keyboard, the computer desk, an aquarium, a waterbed, and a chest of drawers in one bedroom, and Tony's china cabinet, antique chest of drawers, and king bed in our bedroom. Can't leave anything out in the outbuilding without winterizing it every time it's messed with, not to mention that old building isn't varmint proof AND I call it spider haven due to all the brown recluses in it. Our bathroom isn't big enough to cuss a cat in, and speaking of cats, whatever I'm tinkering with has to be behind closed doors or parts will become toys for 3 nosy cats who think everything belongs to them. Already have a Miele and my old Maytag DW stored in MIL's basement next door. And as for closets.....we have to use separate closets because our things won't fit all in one. Then there's the fact that Tony doesn't share my enthusiasm for tinkering....he's the "breaker" and I'm the "Fixer". Believe me, if there were room, I'd be using it for something! CL is full of items I could be fixing!
there is just no room to fit anything around the grand piano which takes up all the living room! And the full sized yamaha keyboard, the computer desk, an aquarium, a waterbed, and a chest of drawers in one bedroom, and Tony's china cabinet, antique chest of drawers, and king bed in our bedroom. Can't leave anything out in the outbuilding without winterizing it every time it's messed with, not to mention that old building isn't varmint proof AND I call it spider haven due to all the brown recluses in it. Our bathroom isn't big enough to cuss a cat in, and speaking of cats, whatever I'm tinkering with has to be behind closed doors or parts will become toys for 3 nosy cats who think everything belongs to them. Already have a Miele and my old Maytag DW stored in MIL's basement next door. And as for closets.....we have to use separate closets because our things won't fit all in one. Then there's the fact that Tony doesn't share my enthusiasm for tinkering....he's the "breaker" and I'm the "Fixer". Believe me, if there were room, I'd be using it for something! CL is full of items I could be fixing!
supersuds
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Know what you mean
This Duomatic is actually only a few miles from me, but I'm glad scoots got to it first, because I just have no place to hook it up. All for the best. It's going to a good home!
This Duomatic is actually only a few miles from me, but I'm glad scoots got to it first, because I just have no place to hook it up. All for the best. It's going to a good home!
Oy! The Philco Duomatic is home at last
I just got in from a day's worth of worry and work to get this thing home and in place. The unit looks almost unused - I will post photos tomorrow because I am dead tired. I could not fall asleep until 1.30 last night and had to be up at 6 for the transport, so I am kind of cranky right now.
I just got in from a day's worth of worry and work to get this thing home and in place. The unit looks almost unused - I will post photos tomorrow because I am dead tired. I could not fall asleep until 1.30 last night and had to be up at 6 for the transport, so I am kind of cranky right now.
yeah another heavy washer day
Its a good day when tired after a Rescue.
Good on ya !
Its a good day when tired after a Rescue.
Good on ya !
hippiedoll
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CONGRATULATIONS!!
This looks like a fun combo to use. Is the cabinet about the same size as say a maytag washer? I can't wait to see some pictures and also hopefully a video of this combo in action...
;o)
Again CONGRATULATIONS on a neat find!
)
This looks like a fun combo to use. Is the cabinet about the same size as say a maytag washer? I can't wait to see some pictures and also hopefully a video of this combo in action...
;o)
Again CONGRATULATIONS on a neat find!
)
Well, here she is, the new Queen of the Laundry Room
It's a Philco CE-704. I was told it was from 58, but I see it in ads from 59-60. Did they roll the style over for a few years? It was in essence in a storage room unused for many years ... I got it from a middle man so most of the pre-history is missing.
The unit is in generally good condition, with cosmetic problems on the cabinet (rust at the corners), worn graphics on the bleach dispenser (the tray under the main dials) Chrome loss on the door frame, and very slight graphics paper peel on the "Master Control" back graphic.
Notice that the plug is missing, as is the inlet couplings and possibly the valves (I haven't removed any of the back panels yet).
It's a Philco CE-704. I was told it was from 58, but I see it in ads from 59-60. Did they roll the style over for a few years? It was in essence in a storage room unused for many years ... I got it from a middle man so most of the pre-history is missing.
The unit is in generally good condition, with cosmetic problems on the cabinet (rust at the corners), worn graphics on the bleach dispenser (the tray under the main dials) Chrome loss on the door frame, and very slight graphics paper peel on the "Master Control" back graphic.
Notice that the plug is missing, as is the inlet couplings and possibly the valves (I haven't removed any of the back panels yet).
hippiedoll
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what is the little knob
all the way on the left hand side of the dryer timer knob? I can't tell from the pictures...
/
LOVE the pictures & all the knobs
)
all the way on the left hand side of the dryer timer knob? I can't tell from the pictures...
/LOVE the pictures & all the knobs
)
The small knob on the far left is the heat setting for the dryer. Air, regular, wash and wear settings.
supersuds
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The graphics alone are a tour de force.
What's the "master switch" for? Is it what they had been calling the Magic Heater?
What's the "master switch" for? Is it what they had been calling the Magic Heater?
"Mater Switch"
Turns power on or off to the unit. Like a regular timer dial where you push it in to start and pull it out to turn it off.
Turns power on or off to the unit. Like a regular timer dial where you push it in to start and pull it out to turn it off.
ovrphil
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Again - Congratulations
on nabbing this one. The panel alone is a work of art, as a bonus while you "drive" this machine. Very very cool! There's enough knobs on this panel to make you feel you're driving or flying.
on nabbing this one. The panel alone is a work of art, as a bonus while you "drive" this machine. Very very cool! There's enough knobs on this panel to make you feel you're driving or flying.
Wish I could have met you guys in town to check it out!
beekeyknee
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Very cool acquisition on that combo, Bill. With some careful restoration you should be able to get it back to nearly new condition. I've found that gentle cleaning of the cabinets on machines, followed by computer color matching the paint by an auto parts store usually works best. They can mix up small bottles of different colors. Start on inconspicuous areas first to see how it looks and work toward more noticeable areas. Use a small artist brush. Let dry completely and follow with a low to med. cut rubbing compound. Then finish with a good wax buffed out with a microfiber towel or microfiber bonnet on an orbital polisher.
I guess if you've done any automobile work you all ready know these things. Control panels can be more tricky. Especially back painted or decorated areas. I've never had anything re-chromed but I'm sure someone will offer advise if you need it. I'd take the glass out before attempting that.
We expect you to wear you black heals while operating the machine as the lady in picture #17, reply #18 demonstrates. This is clearly the proper way to use your new Duomatic!
LOL. Fantastic find. Keep us posted.
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I guess if you've done any automobile work you all ready know these things. Control panels can be more tricky. Especially back painted or decorated areas. I've never had anything re-chromed but I'm sure someone will offer advise if you need it. I'd take the glass out before attempting that.
We expect you to wear you black heals while operating the machine as the lady in picture #17, reply #18 demonstrates. This is clearly the proper way to use your new Duomatic!
[this post was last edited: 11/13/2015-23:49]
Did they
make all the baffles the same height in that drum? It looks like it.
make all the baffles the same height in that drum? It looks like it.
Baffles
Jon Charles asked "Did they make all the baffles the same height in that drum?" - Yes, there are four baffles placed at 90 degrees and they are all identical as far as I can see.
Jon Charles asked "Did they make all the baffles the same height in that drum?" - Yes, there are four baffles placed at 90 degrees and they are all identical as far as I can see.
Thanks for your well-wishes
This machine cost more and gave more angst than any other I've acquired, but it's splendid just to look at and certainly worth it.
We never had a combo, or knew of anyone who did. I know from asking my Mom in the 70s that she didn't have a high opinion of them, although I suspect she was just echoing my father's reticence to buy anything with more than three buttons on it. He was an aircraft mechanic and was a firm believer that "parts that don't exist don't need to be fixed."
Several of you have commented on the styling of the control board, and I must confess, this reason alone is why I got this unit. I really love the understated monochrome styling and the panel-in-panel design. It reminds me very much of the best of automotive design at this time. Had it been another year, I probably would have passed on it.
I don't plan on doing anything with it for the moment. Money is just too tight and what might have gone into it went to have it professionally moved when it became apparent I could not round up labor in timely way.
I am going to ask that if any of you have literature/manuals for this model or a similar one to let me know and I'll be happy to pay for the trouble of having them scanned.
If there's anything else I need to know about this unit, please let me know.
This machine cost more and gave more angst than any other I've acquired, but it's splendid just to look at and certainly worth it.
We never had a combo, or knew of anyone who did. I know from asking my Mom in the 70s that she didn't have a high opinion of them, although I suspect she was just echoing my father's reticence to buy anything with more than three buttons on it. He was an aircraft mechanic and was a firm believer that "parts that don't exist don't need to be fixed."
Several of you have commented on the styling of the control board, and I must confess, this reason alone is why I got this unit. I really love the understated monochrome styling and the panel-in-panel design. It reminds me very much of the best of automotive design at this time. Had it been another year, I probably would have passed on it.
I don't plan on doing anything with it for the moment. Money is just too tight and what might have gone into it went to have it professionally moved when it became apparent I could not round up labor in timely way.
I am going to ask that if any of you have literature/manuals for this model or a similar one to let me know and I'll be happy to pay for the trouble of having them scanned.
If there's anything else I need to know about this unit, please let me know.
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