I see that some folks use PineSol or other brands of pine cleaner in their wash. Might that be a good alternative to chlorine bleach since they both kill germs? Any thoughts?
PineSol vs chlorine bleach
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My grandmother used to use lestoil in her wash.
Pine oil is a decent disinfectant, but product has to be made from enough pure pine oil and have high enough content. Key is to look (as always) for an EPA registration number on container.
Like Lysol, Pine-Sol has changed formulas over years (largely due to decreasing sources of pine oil), so not all products are EPA registered. Those that are may in whole or part have other chemicals or substances that provide disinfectant action.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_oil#Properties_as_a_disinfectant
https://www3.epa.gov/pesticides/chem_search/ppls/005813-00054-20050621.pdf
Many pine products make claims above cleaning and deodorizing, but no longer regarding disinfecting.
https://www.amazon.com/King-Pine-Concentrated-Cleaner-Multi-Surface/dp/B00TU6MSAK#customerReviews
Keep in mind most pine cleaners that are disinfectants are meant for hard non-porous surfaces. If you want extra cleaning action (such as using Lestoil or whatever in the wash), that will work, but for sanitation you might want to go with chlorine bleach.
Like Lysol, Pine-Sol has changed formulas over years (largely due to decreasing sources of pine oil), so not all products are EPA registered. Those that are may in whole or part have other chemicals or substances that provide disinfectant action.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_oil#Properties_as_a_disinfectant
https://www3.epa.gov/pesticides/chem_search/ppls/005813-00054-20050621.pdf
Many pine products make claims above cleaning and deodorizing, but no longer regarding disinfecting.
https://www.amazon.com/King-Pine-Concentrated-Cleaner-Multi-Surface/dp/B00TU6MSAK#customerReviews
Keep in mind most pine cleaners that are disinfectants are meant for hard non-porous surfaces. If you want extra cleaning action (such as using Lestoil or whatever in the wash), that will work, but for sanitation you might want to go with chlorine bleach.
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Another thing..
IMHO pine cleaners have a smell like a loo in some cheap knocking shop or low boozer.
That scent lasts quite some time so your wash will smell like same. More so if you use a product with high enough pure pine oil to use that substance as a disinfectant.
IMHO pine cleaners have a smell like a loo in some cheap knocking shop or low boozer.
That scent lasts quite some time so your wash will smell like same. More so if you use a product with high enough pure pine oil to use that substance as a disinfectant.
I don't know if she still does or not, but my Aunt Julie used to use Pine-Sol (or Texize Pine Power) in her commodes, and frequently in the laundry, especially if there was anything greasy or oily. This practice seems to be very common in the deep south.
Lysol, not Pine-Sol for my colored uniforms if I've been around funky patients. Been doing it for 24 years with no problems.
Clorox recalls 37 million bottles of Pine-Sol products
Lemon Fresh and other popular Pine-Sol scents may contain hazardous bacteria, promptng Clorox to recall millions of bottles.
thegrio.com
So, just to make sure I got this right there`s a recall of PineSol because of drug resistant Pseudomonas aeruginosa?
Isn`t this the same bacteria they found in The Laundress laundry products in the other thread?
Isn`t PineSol a disinfectant cleanser that contains nowadays a quaternary ammonium compound that should be avoided at all cost because it is known to create super bugs?
How can bacteria even if they`re drug resistant survive in an undiluted disinfectant cleanser or a laundry product which is full of toxic preservatives?
Which contaminated raw materials could PineSol and The Laundress possibly share and what else will turn out to be affected in the near future?
Isn`t this the same bacteria they found in The Laundress laundry products in the other thread?
Isn`t PineSol a disinfectant cleanser that contains nowadays a quaternary ammonium compound that should be avoided at all cost because it is known to create super bugs?
How can bacteria even if they`re drug resistant survive in an undiluted disinfectant cleanser or a laundry product which is full of toxic preservatives?
Which contaminated raw materials could PineSol and The Laundress possibly share and what else will turn out to be affected in the near future?
Like Clorox Pine-Sol has a number of products sold under that brand name that are not disinfectants. It is those "household cleaners" that were infected with bacteria.
https://www.cpsc.gov/Recalls/2023/C...leaners-Due-to-Risk-of-Exposure-to-Bacteria-1
Household cleaners are no different than laundry detergents or other liquid products. They contain preservatives that to a certain extent will prevent growth of bacteria, mould or whatever, but won't do so forever or in extreme cases.
https://www.cpsc.gov/Recalls/2023/C...leaners-Due-to-Risk-of-Exposure-to-Bacteria-1
Household cleaners are no different than laundry detergents or other liquid products. They contain preservatives that to a certain extent will prevent growth of bacteria, mould or whatever, but won't do so forever or in extreme cases.
According to the linked article, it is the scented products that may have contamination. They don't claim to be disinfectants; only the original pine scent does. My Aunt Doris knew the original owners of the company in Jackson, MS, before it was sold to American Cyanamid, and subsequently to The Clorox Co.
Thanks guys for clearing this up, I missed that it`s only the scented versions that may be contaminated.
It`s still kind of scary to see two similar cases from two entirely different parent companies (Unilever and Clorox) within a few days only, isn`t it?
It`s still kind of scary to see two similar cases from two entirely different parent companies (Unilever and Clorox) within a few days only, isn`t it?
No more scary than seemingly every other day some food or other comestibles sold in USA is being recalled due to contamination.
neptunebob
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But it Smells like Public Toilets!
That is what mom always said about Pine Sol and Lestoil and I was never allowed to bring those home. My sister later said, "That's because you work in nursing".
That is what mom always said about Pine Sol and Lestoil and I was never allowed to bring those home. My sister later said, "That's because you work in nursing".
I would avoid Pine-Sol in laundry. When I was younger, a friend had a bedwetting problem and his parents washed everything in Pine-Sol. Now I automatically imagine the odor of soured piss when I smell it. I used to hate it when visiting their home and having to sleep on pissy pine-sol smelling bed sheets. Now I will never go near it!
polkanut
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I used Pine-Sol while my grandmother was alive. I did her laundry, and it was the only thing that would eliminate the urine smell. She was incontinent, but it was a struggle to get her to use Depends until she finally had to go into assisted living, and ultimately a nursing home.
Smell association
I have the same smell flashbacks when I smell Lavender air freshener especially the cheap stuff its what was sprayed liberally about a nursing home I worked in and did nothing to remove the ever present wet nickers odour...
I have the same smell flashbacks when I smell Lavender air freshener especially the cheap stuff its what was sprayed liberally about a nursing home I worked in and did nothing to remove the ever present wet nickers odour...
my dad and pineSol
My dad would use pineSol in the laundry whenever he had greasy clothes primarily jeans. He'd use the 30 minute soak cycle on the normal/fast speed. There were times when he used bleach and pineSol simultaneously.
My dad would use pineSol in the laundry whenever he had greasy clothes primarily jeans. He'd use the 30 minute soak cycle on the normal/fast speed. There were times when he used bleach and pineSol simultaneously.
