Please reccomend a decent but affordable condenser dryer

[chestermikeuk]

beko

Hi Richard , did you use the "normal Dry" setting? or Damp Dry,

Does this dryer have heat setting as well as the sensor setting, With The Zug you set the sensor setting, say normal dry but then you can also set lower temp or much lower temp setting which is great for synthetics delicates and woollens..

 

[richardc1983]

For sensor programs i have iron dry, cupboard dry & extra dry. These options appear for both synthetics or cottons.

Both times I used cupboard dry first times everything dry perfectly enough to put away yet this time I've had to put back over the door the sheet and duvet cover.

Both times it's been on cottons cupboard dry.

 

[richardc1983]

Being a heat pump as hot as it gets on cottons is probably the temp of a lower heat setting on a standard electric dryer. So not sure how it regulates temp any further all it shows if you put it on synthetics cupboard dry is a lower program estimate time of arrival. I imagine if you put cottons in on that program the sensors would keep adjusting the ETA during the program and the cycle would last longer.

 

[chestermikeuk]

Was It

back to back programme drying, wonder if the heat pump hadnt settled after the first load, they are so very different from using a normal dryer - I found that after a few loads its best for it to cool down and "re-set" itself....

 

[chestermikeuk]

Sensors

work in two different ways either heat level controls or think of it like Hoover Autosense dryers, no low temperature that you can set, just starts on the higher heat and adjusts the temperature down as the sensors start to read!!

The Zug gives you the choice of not automatically having the high heat all the time!!

 

[richardc1983]

I don't know how the compressor regulates its temp its either on or off no in between and takes a good ten mins before output reAched again after pausing cycle. Remember this is a dehumidifier setup inside a dryer.

Yes it was back to back loads but was fine the day before.

 

[chestermikeuk]

Remember

Yes I know all that with bobs on, but at the end of cycle, you will here the heat pump de-energise, same as start up, you hear the heat pump energise (sounds like a boiler ignighting and gurgling, quietly) before the drum starts to turn at all etc...

My question is did you do a few loads back to back, take any load out before the timer and sensors had finished the programme completely and cooled down accordingly, and the heat pump re-set itself?

 

[suds]

Cottons extra dry...

Is what I use to get stuff ready for immediate packing away straight out of the dryer on my AEG heat pump. Besides the iron, cupboard and extra dry I am amble to select ( only found this feature a fair way into ownership ) an added dryness level in 2 stages "dry + " and " dry ++" effectively adding on another 2 levels of dryness which gets the seams and everything dry....I have only used this on the cottons extra dry program and thinking to myself as I'm typing this whether it would work well on the cupboard dry setting too, will check when I do the towels and bedlinen on Thursday, I may be wasting energy.

Without the "dry ++" setting there is , as you say Richard, the slightest bit of dampness that short hanging up will sort but I tumble dry so that I don't have to hang things up!

I also attempt to never open/ pause the program whilst underway as it does seem to take a while to "get back up to speed" , drying a heavy load of towels I noticed the extra radiator fan turning on an off which is situated at the bottom right next to the door for the filters, apparently this assists the heat pump to avoid overheating - again I 'm feeling though that you guys are way more up to speed on the mechanicals than I am.

B

 

[richardc1983]

The fan on the bottom of the beko runs after 5 mins if cycle start and runs right thorough to compressor turning off before cool down cycle.

It's to keep the compressor cool.

So what's point in cupboard dry then if you have to use extra dry? Also why did first few loads work perfectly?

 

[richardc1983]

On the beko the compressor starts up after about 3 minutes by this point the drum already been turning.

No didn't do anything different.

 

[chestermikeuk]

Ah Right.......

Richard interesting, Al does yours start in the same way?

Seamus what does the Miele Heat Pump Do, fan, pump then drum turn?

 

[richardc1983]

This Is usually compressor protection same way as your fridge won't start for 3 minutes after being turned off or on. It's to protect the compressor.

 

[chestermikeuk]

Are The

Different readings and dryness levels since you had the heat pump dryer fitted in between the units?

 

[richardc1983]

Yes

 

[chestermikeuk]

You might.....

want to check the air inlet and see its not restricted, might just be a too hot ambient temperature around it after a few loads...

 

[suds]

The AEG's fan....

...turns on an off during the cycle I find, not at any determinable frequency -seems to be as needed. I have also wondered what the need for cupboard versus extra dry is for, I don't see why there would be a difference. Maybe the extra dry is for items that one knows are thicker/ heavier and needs some extract time as I suppose the sensors can only do that much. My bedlinen cycle (which reverses the drum to avoid "balling-up") also needs to run with the "dry +" to get things just nicely dry (not fried).

So Richard I had initial dampness hassles to but remedied that by fiddling/selecting extra options - not quite sure tho what's happening your side as you are using the exact same program - sorry

Also want to put this question out to you bunch of genius'
Apparently water hardness affects the drying efficiency , my manual states there are 3 levels to choose from (which can be selected by pressing various combos of buttons to "program" the level on the control panel ) it doesn't however state which level suits which level of water hardness - is level one for hard or soft water - as my water is very hard I'm guessing the medium/no2/middle setting is probably wrong. Any ideas? There are 3 symbols (seems to be something llke parts per million!?) next to each level in the manual but again not stated which suits which.

B

 

[chestermikeuk]

Extra Dry...

Hi Brandon, Extra Dry is only usually used for very thick items or jeans with thick seams to make sure they are dry, using Extra on most clothing will result in over dried fabrics, unless you setting have started to give lower readings over the years being used...again some programmes have a + / - of a few degrees, the machine dry settings on the Zug tend to leave linens too damp for my liking...so the degrees of change is good..

I have seen many auto sensor condenser dryers loose their efficiency to dry to the required degree settings over a number of years when there has been build up on the sensors or fluff. lint and waxy debree on the fans and condensers.

 

[electron1100]

Technology

this new technology is amazing, look at the way this machine can sense the load

 

[suds]

Intelligent ..

..load sensing -brilliant ha ha ha

 

[sesteve]

Hehe. I like that sort of new technology Gary

With my JL heat pump the drum tumbles for 15 secs before the heat pump kicks in and then it will generally run until the cool down phase. However, if I'm doing a heavy load of towels the compressor will sometimes shutdown for 10 - 15 mins which is probably when it's got too hot in the dryer. The small fan tends to kick in later in the cycle and then carries on running. The compressor will also switch off if the room temperature gets too hot to stop it overloading so I always make sure the cupboard is open when it's on.

I have 3 intensity settings on top of the dryness settings and these add on a few more minutes if you want things a bit drier. I find that drying a smaller load tends to leave things slightly damper than a proper full one. I guess it's down to the fact that items dry at different rates and when there is less the overall moisture level will be low which switches the dryer off!

Hopefully it's just a case if getting used to your new machine Richard.

S