Potscrubber III?

[cam2s]

I need another dishwasher like I need a hole in my head but this older GE showed up on a local Facebook group. I’ve always been fascinated by the older GE potscrubbers...if it was a 1200 I probably would have been on the way already. This is one looks fairly upper end with the all the buttons on the panel. The seller doesn’t include any other pictures or information other than it works. The price is free, but I’d have to get a truck and make a little drive to get it. Would this be a fun machine to play with or not worth the hassle of getting it?

 

[panthera]

Worth it!

Probably has the wonderful lower spray arm which rotates on a cam to make sure all the corners get clean!

We've worked on several pre-Potscrubber II and post-Potscrubber II dishwashers through the years and no question about it - between the outstanding cleaning and the parts availability, they're totally worth it.

Someday, I'm going to tackle a Potscrubber II, just to see if they're really that awful.

I'm curious what the other front panel colours will be!

 

[appnut]

This is pretty high up in the line and if it is a PotScrubber III, then it would have the Multi-Orbit wash arm.

 

[bigalsf]

GSD1000

It appears to be a GSD1000, based on this info from their brochure:

 

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[combo52]

GE Pots-Scrubber 3

This is just as good as the GSD1200s, it just has a more reliable timer, just throw it in the mini-van or station wagon these are not that large.

 

John L.

 

[jamiel]

LOL I remember slinging a new one (remember, they're poly tub) into my brother's Accord hatchback to run it home rather than wait for a delivery.

 

[cam2s]

Well I could fit a dishwasher into my old Cadillac but there’s no way one is going in my C class sedan than I have now. Probably just as well otherwise I’d be dragging home stuff all the time. It has to be really worth to go through the hassle of asking someone to help me or renting a van for a day.

 

[cam2s]

Well since I have the will power of a potato and was able to source a van here we are on our way home.

 

[appnut]

Congratulations Cameron. Looking forward to more pics!!!

 

[bigalsf]

Nice!!!

Congrats!!

 

[Chetlaham]

Well worth it. Low will power is a good thing when it comes to appliances.

 

[cam2s]

Made it home. It is in fairly good shape for its age. Definitely will need some cleaning. Looks like the seller loosened some important bits underneath during the removal process but hopefully that will sort out easily enough. Here are some pics to enjoy for the moment.

Side note...does anyone have any experience in turning a built in into a portable, or at least making temporary connections? I would really like to leave the Bosch in the actual dishwasher spot in the cabinet.

 

[combo52]

Ge Pots-Scrubber 3

Cool this is an early Multi-Orbit Wash-Arm Dw with the green wash arms, we have this exact model in our  wall of DWs at the museum. 

 

The mounting module with the inlet valve and electrical connections is supposed to be loose, you attach it to the floor hook up the water and power then slide in the DW and attach the inlet hose o the IV and plug in the power connector.

 

It looks like the pump has seen better days, it might leak a little, if you really wanted to use this DW much you should install the newer pump PSC motor, unless you want the original roar of the GE shaded pole motor and all the hot that it puts out [ good thing about these GE SP motors is all the heat and air movement under the DW really helps dry up any leaking water ]

 

John L.

 

[cam2s]

Thank you for the information on the water inlet that is something I haven’t seen before. The subfloor here is concrete so it will just have to continue to be a free floater. The inlet pipe looks to be a different size than what the water connection is but that is an issue for later. Started cleaning it up...not horribly bad for a machine of its age. Looks like the rinse aid and possible the detergent cup is leaking though. As far as replacing the pump is concerned, I’ll probably clean it up and use it and see how it is first. If it leaks that will force my hand. May let that be a project for down the road unless I can source one of the cheap.

 

[chachp]

Built in to Portable

 

<span style="font-family: helvetica;">I have done a number of these.  What I did was buy a few of these Portable Dishwasher hose sets.  I watch for them on eBay as they will come up used for cheaper than this one but you get the idea.  Then I made very simple carts with four pieces of wood and four wheels.  I get them all at Home Depot.  I will see if I can get some photos for you as I think a picture will speak a thousand words.  The key with the cart is to extend it in the front a couple of inches so when you have the dishwasher open, full of dishes it won't tip forward.  You can connect that assembly to the cart that would be connected to a wood sub floor.</span>

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Whirlpool-...RTSjCIXlBoaCN8g+kmP6L9FYsJa8glPq555mpu4noDO+0

 

[chachp]

Built in to portable....

 

<span style="font-family: 'American Typewriter', serif; font-size: medium; font-weight: normal;">I made these carts 25” X 25”.  You can use whatever wood you have.  I think these were something like ½” X 3”.  Something like that.  I used 2” wheels.  All bought at Home Depot.  I also picked up a dishwasher cord to use for power.  The hose assembly you see in the picture is one I picked up really cheap on eBay.  It had a leak that I had to repair.  These don't come up cheap as often as they used to because people don't seem to be </span><span style="font-family: 'American Typewriter', serif; font-size: medium;"><span style="font-weight: normal;">converting as many machines anymore but keep an eye out.  They do pop up unless you want to pay full price for one.  There is a link to a new one below.</span></span>

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<span style="font-family: 'American Typewriter', serif;">I placed the dishwasher about 1” from the back and bolted the frame to the cart.  This left plenty in the front of the cart to insure it didn’t tip forward when full of dishes.  It was so easy to make.  I am not handy with wood working but this was just about the math to get the wood in the correct lengths which I did and then had them cut at Home Depot.  When I got home all I had to do was put it together. I used wood glue to get it how I wanted it then secured it with screws that went through both pieces of wood.  The wheels screwed on from the bottom, so I used longer screws as well for those to give it a little extra strength.  I have done a number of these and they work really well.  You can insulate the dishwasher as I did with this one and that helps with the noise a little bit too.</span>

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<span style="font-family: 'American Typewriter', serif;">BTW: There was a discussion about stainless panels on a 17 series machine.  I have them on this dishwasher.  When I got the machine, it had avocado panels, but a very generous member sent me the stainless panels for my birthday one year.  They are few and far between, so I really appreciate his kindness.  I included a picture of the machine installed when I used it as my daily driver in the old house.  </span>

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Whirlpool-...RTSjCIXlBoaCN8g+kmP6L9FYsJa8glPq555mpu4noDO+0

 

[combo52]

GE Pots-Scrubber 3

Hi Cameron, Your new GE DW looks pretty good, the last owners could have used bette detergent, but not bad.

 

It is normal for GEs detergent and RA dispensers to leak inside the door a little, the water just runs down and back into the tub.

 

John L.

 

[cam2s]

Clean up continues

Got the sump area and the back side of the door liner cleaned. Pulled the color panels to see what awaits there...besides the fabulous color palette there was some more rust lurking on the inside of the door. Hope to do some water testing tomorrow.

 

[cam2s]

Good News bad news

Got it hooked up to power and hand poured some Water in the sump to see what happened. Motor ran and timer ran but it appears that there are several good leaks going on underneath. May try it again tomorrow after everything has sat overnight and had a chance to rehydrate but it looks like a motor and drain solenoid assembly are going to be in order. This thing really throws the water, I could feel the jets sweeping around with my hand on the outside of the tub. I also was able to answer my own question about the operation of the timer. It appears that you are suppose to select your cycle then push the timer to start. There aren’t any marks noted for rinse hold or a short wash, but since this is a non rapid advance timer how does it get around to where it needs to be? Rinse hold runs the first two fills on the timer the shuts the power off to the motor. I didn’t let it run itself through but I’m assuming that it would eventually wind its way back to start. Will be curious to find out if the China cycle can skip fills or have a short cycle compared to the others. Also interesting that they had two different timers that offer essentially the same functionality of a one touch start.

 

[jamiel]

China lessened fills; reducing water volume reduced force.

 

[cam2s]

Pulled the pump off to see if I could savage any of the leaks until I can get a new pump. Anyways found the service and timing information tucked in a little envelope under the door. I guess to answer my son question from earlier the timer can skip a fill, but it only skips one prewash fill on normal and China. Fills themselves can be either 69 seconds or 47 seconds. All fills on China are short fills, Power Scrub is all full fills. Normal is a mixture of both.

 

[appnut]

Owners Manual

Cameron, I was able to find the manual for your dishwasher. There were a couple of versions of the GSD1000 with slight variations. What threw a real monkey wrench in the whole thing is there was also a GSD1000 modern dishwasher within the last 10 years or so.

The manual I found is for a model that has Rinse & Hold on the timer dial and not a cycle button. GE did silly things with cycle names. The manual I've included the link for had cycle buttons for PotScrubber. Normal Wash, and Energy Saver. GE simply renamed the major cycle buttons. The equivalent to your dishwasher would be Power Scrub, Heavy Soil, and Normal Wash. The only difference between China Crystal & Normal or Energy Saver was the shorter fills yielding the "aerated" softer wash.

I had a GSD1200 from 1987 with rapid advance timer. When the original PotScrubber III series was announced, the GSD1200 was the top of the line.

My version's cycles were labeled Potscrubber, Normal Wash, Light Wash, Energy Saver, China Crystal, and Rinse & Hold.

Earlier version were labeled PowerScrub, Heavy Wash, Normal Wash, Light Soil, China Crystal, and Rinse & Hold. The cycle name labels were changed, but the cycle sequences were the same. So the shennanigans of just relabeling cycle names allowed meeting Energy Star regulations at the time.

I'll let you know if I ever find the user manual for your exact version of GSD1000.

Bob

https://www.manualslib.com/manual/1141736/Ge-Gsd1000.html#manual

 

[appnut]

Another AW.org thread with this same dishwasher

Cameron, not sure you saw this thread, but I'm going to include it. Someone found your version May, 2015.

https://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?59801

 

[Chetlaham]

Reply 20

Can't thank you enough for this! Fascinating to see how those cycle sequences evolved over the years.

 

[cam2s]

So ordered a new pump and got it on. The switch out was pretty easy. Apparently GE has had seven different variations of this pump set up over the years.

 

[cam2s]

The problem is now it leaks worse than it did before! Most of seems to be coming from around the outlet area. The clamp is tightened down as much as it can be. Is that boot replaceable or is there a better way to seal it up? If you turn on the pump it really leaks.

 

[Chetlaham]

Sump Boot

Without a question change the sump boot. The newer version holds less water and as a result the dishwasher will substantially wash and rinse better.

If you mean the spray arm boot there are plenty on Ebay that will fit the older style wash arm. If you want you can get the newer version along with the newer style spray arm but its up to you.

 

[combo52]

Leakin Pump Connections On A GE DW

This happens sometimes, try loosening the clamp and reposition it and retighten, I usually always get these leaks to go away completely with a little patience.

 

If this does not work you can replace the outlet hose or use a good 3M type marine sealer and let it dry and it will never leak again but it will e hard to take apart again.

 

John L.

 

[cam2s]

Thank you for the advice, I figured I would just have to keep messing with it but never hurts to ask. I Think I loosened the wash arm support during the cleaning process, so I took that apart along with the nut and boot and cleaned it and tightened it down. Also got a new clamp for the outlet. It did finally get sealed up. Was getting frustrated the other night walking away and looking at it with fresh eyes certainly helped too.

I noticed that the sump seemed excessively big, I did go ahead and order the new part. It looks much more efficient. Next step here will be to let it run through a cycle to clean it out and see if there are any other issues. Will hand pour water in for now. Once the sump arrives I’ll put it in and probably install it under the counter. I would like to look at using it out of the counter so I can still have my Bosch but that will be a project for later.

Looking forward to using this machine, with the new parts it’s going to be an absolute powerhouse!

 

[cam2s]

Sump came today, got it swapped out with relatively little fuss. Still leak free so that’s great. It’s currently chugging through all cycle, all seems well so far. The new motor is much quieter, all you can hear is the water sloshing around. Hopefully will be able to get it installed in the cabinet within the next few days.