I was recently in Costco and saw a "gigunda" box of Tide for about $30. I usually use liquid Tide. Recently though I have taken a liking to Cheer liquid fresh scent. I also use Suavitel fabric softener. I was wondering if anyone in the club used powdered Tide on a daily basis. I have a SQ top loader and was concerned about powder dissolving especially in cold water. Any thoughts?.....Also does anyone use powdered Cheer?
Powdered Tide or Liquid Tide/Cheer
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I use powdered Tide all the time. They also have at Costco Tide w/Bleach Advanced Powder that does an awesome job. Question I have is do you use cold water for everything??? I normally use warm water for most everything except whites and they get a hot wash. To me washing in cold water doesnt make sense since it doesnt get rid of body soils and oils. And detergents dont activate until the water is at least 65 degrees.
I have an SQ toploader as well and never have a problem with detergents disolving. I have also use powdered Cheer. I am not a fan of liquids...never have. But you have to remember one thing that the SQ washers do not have auto temp control so whatever comes out of your tap is your wash water temp. Plus with winter coming and knowing that the water temp drops dramatically during the winter I would think twice.
I have an SQ toploader as well and never have a problem with detergents disolving. I have also use powdered Cheer. I am not a fan of liquids...never have. But you have to remember one thing that the SQ washers do not have auto temp control so whatever comes out of your tap is your wash water temp. Plus with winter coming and knowing that the water temp drops dramatically during the winter I would think twice.
gefilterflo
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That is what I use in my GE Hydrowave, and I don't have any problems with it, even in cold water.
nmassman44
I usually wash my "good" slacks, shirts, etc. in cold water, otherwise I wash in warm or hot for my towels, sheets and whites. Thanks by the way for helping my to adjust my water level. I think I'll give powdered Tide a shot. Should I add it as the machine is filling, or on top of the load?
I usually wash my "good" slacks, shirts, etc. in cold water, otherwise I wash in warm or hot for my towels, sheets and whites. Thanks by the way for helping my to adjust my water level. I think I'll give powdered Tide a shot. Should I add it as the machine is filling, or on top of the load?
What I do is that I load the washer with dry clothes first...I dont run the water since when the clothes get wet it doesnt give me an idea how full the washbasket will be. Then I add a scoop to the load by pulling the clothes away from the agitator in one spot in the front then I pour the detergent to the base of the agitator. I do the same for dry oxygen bleach and any other powdered agent like Tide Inwash Booster. Then I turn the washer on and select the water temp and level. I rarely use the softner dispenser since I double deep rinse every load. So when I restart the washer for the 2nd rinse I add softener which is Downy April Fresh Scent. Then I stick around til the washer is done and throw the load in the dryer or hang it out and then I start my next load.
dirtybuck
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What You Could Do...
Don't put any clothes in the washer. Add the Tide or whatever powdered detergent you prefer. Set the water temp to either warm or hot, and let the detergent dissolve in that manner (maybe take the green measuring cup and swish the water around a bit to make sure it's fully dissolved). Stop the washer, put the water temp back to cold, add the clothes and start the washer again.
OR...put the amount of powdered detergent you want to use into a 32 oz. pitcher, fill it SLOWLY with warm water (to keep from producing massive amounts of suds), then add it to the wash water when it starts to agitate.
Don't put any clothes in the washer. Add the Tide or whatever powdered detergent you prefer. Set the water temp to either warm or hot, and let the detergent dissolve in that manner (maybe take the green measuring cup and swish the water around a bit to make sure it's fully dissolved). Stop the washer, put the water temp back to cold, add the clothes and start the washer again.
OR...put the amount of powdered detergent you want to use into a 32 oz. pitcher, fill it SLOWLY with warm water (to keep from producing massive amounts of suds), then add it to the wash water when it starts to agitate.
kqkenmore
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I have used Tide powder for years in the top loaders that I have had.A few GE's Filter Flos mostly Kenmores.I now use the powdered version in the front loader that I just got a Samsung front loader and it works great. In a regular top loader I always started the washer first then put in the powder and let the tub fill the quarter the way and then added the clothes.I have never had a problem with the detergent dissolving.
Powders...
In my machines I use powders, powders, and more powders. Use of liquid detergent is punishable by deas (which is remarkably similar to death).
I put in the detergent first, then the clothes, then start the machine. Even if the powder doesn't dissolve, it is down near the agitator fins and gets swished into submission quickly. I have never had a problem, even in cold water. Sometimes, I will start the fill after adding the detergent and then add clothes as the washer fills. I will also sometimes start the fill hot and then switch to cold or warm later. If the powder doesn't dissolve, chack to make sure the machine isn't overloaded.
I have used Tide powders and tend to like them, but I also use Cheer Original powder, Gain Original Powder, Foca, Roma, Fresh Start, and a few others.
Powder is cheaper per load and the boxes make handy washer and dryer lint trash cans.
Dave
In my machines I use powders, powders, and more powders. Use of liquid detergent is punishable by deas (which is remarkably similar to death).
I put in the detergent first, then the clothes, then start the machine. Even if the powder doesn't dissolve, it is down near the agitator fins and gets swished into submission quickly. I have never had a problem, even in cold water. Sometimes, I will start the fill after adding the detergent and then add clothes as the washer fills. I will also sometimes start the fill hot and then switch to cold or warm later. If the powder doesn't dissolve, chack to make sure the machine isn't overloaded.
I have used Tide powders and tend to like them, but I also use Cheer Original powder, Gain Original Powder, Foca, Roma, Fresh Start, and a few others.
Powder is cheaper per load and the boxes make handy washer and dryer lint trash cans.
Dave
I washed every load (including highly-stained kitchen whites) in temp-controlled cold water for over a year and had great results using powdered Tide Cold Water (and liquid chlorine bleach for whites). After awhile, I just got bored with always using cold water. Never noticed any buildup of body oils/soils, but I wasn't exactly washing mechanics' overalls, either. My work clothes stay pretty clean except for ring-around-the-collar.
I still wash colored clothes in temp-controlled cold. Whites get washed in 120-125 degree water, which is what passes for hot, these days.
I won't have a washer without temp-controlled cold water. Our tap temps can get down to the low 40's in the winter, which render detergents worthless.
I still wash colored clothes in temp-controlled cold. Whites get washed in 120-125 degree water, which is what passes for hot, these days.
I won't have a washer without temp-controlled cold water. Our tap temps can get down to the low 40's in the winter, which render detergents worthless.
Liquids are generally very good at dealing with oil
and grease and fat and all that icky stuff that you get out of your ears and smear onto your pillows.
But not in cold water.
When I worked in the second-hand appliances store cleaning the machines which came in, we could tell exactly which ones had been run on 'cold' and which weren't. The cold water washers had mold, mildew and hideous gunk buildup all over the place.
You can't clean as well in cold water as in warmer water. Period.
Given the cost of heating water, I'd rather run a suds-saver (or make one, not that hard given that pumps pump up and gravity does the other side for you) than reduce the temperature to the point clothes don't come clean.
Don't mean to offend anyone, but unless money is that tight (and for some of us it is, I know), clothes need to be washed in the warmest water suitable.
and grease and fat and all that icky stuff that you get out of your ears and smear onto your pillows.
But not in cold water.
When I worked in the second-hand appliances store cleaning the machines which came in, we could tell exactly which ones had been run on 'cold' and which weren't. The cold water washers had mold, mildew and hideous gunk buildup all over the place.
You can't clean as well in cold water as in warmer water. Period.
Given the cost of heating water, I'd rather run a suds-saver (or make one, not that hard given that pumps pump up and gravity does the other side for you) than reduce the temperature to the point clothes don't come clean.
Don't mean to offend anyone, but unless money is that tight (and for some of us it is, I know), clothes need to be washed in the warmest water suitable.
Ring around the collar is oil buildup.
And ring around the collar
is easily dealt with by:
Washing. Oneself. Thoroughly.
With warm water and soap.
Some things never change.
is easily dealt with by:
Washing. Oneself. Thoroughly.
With warm water and soap.
Some things never change.
A nasty recent experience with liquid detergents and cold wa
Back in January of this year I rebuilt for the second time an electronic 1979 built Kenmore belt-drive that I sold a co-worker/close friend in 1995. He got married in '96, and has since had two kids. Apparently, much to my displeasure, the machine has seldom seen warm or hot water since. The edict was put out by my friend that nobody wash in anything but cold. They have used various liquid detergents, but most recently I remember him mentioning Era and All.
During this year's re-do, I noticed a wicked septic-tank like odor coming from the machine. Removing the basket yielded something I've never seen before in 60 or more machines like this - the outer tub walls and the outside of the tub itself were COVERED in a 1/4-inch this gray slimy goop that was slippery and sticky at the same time.
I don't even want to think about what it was, but I used 1/2 a roll of papertowel cleaning it up as best I could. We later ran the machine through four empty washes with hot water and bleach - the first couple turned the water nearly black.
The only thing I can attribute this to is the cold water and the scum build-up that has happened at times with liquid detergent. I've seen it on agitators before, but certainly NOT to this magnitude.
I have noticed recently that a couple loads of powdered detergent through a machine can remove some of this scum on agitators. Therefore, I won't be buying any more liquid. I wash everything in warm (whites in really warm).
Just my two bits....
Gordon
Back in January of this year I rebuilt for the second time an electronic 1979 built Kenmore belt-drive that I sold a co-worker/close friend in 1995. He got married in '96, and has since had two kids. Apparently, much to my displeasure, the machine has seldom seen warm or hot water since. The edict was put out by my friend that nobody wash in anything but cold. They have used various liquid detergents, but most recently I remember him mentioning Era and All.
During this year's re-do, I noticed a wicked septic-tank like odor coming from the machine. Removing the basket yielded something I've never seen before in 60 or more machines like this - the outer tub walls and the outside of the tub itself were COVERED in a 1/4-inch this gray slimy goop that was slippery and sticky at the same time.
I don't even want to think about what it was, but I used 1/2 a roll of papertowel cleaning it up as best I could. We later ran the machine through four empty washes with hot water and bleach - the first couple turned the water nearly black.
The only thing I can attribute this to is the cold water and the scum build-up that has happened at times with liquid detergent. I've seen it on agitators before, but certainly NOT to this magnitude.
I have noticed recently that a couple loads of powdered detergent through a machine can remove some of this scum on agitators. Therefore, I won't be buying any more liquid. I wash everything in warm (whites in really warm).
Just my two bits....
Gordon
Yup, Yup
That's what I was talking about. Liquids clean great in warm or hot water.
Otherwise, all this talk about cold water cleaning is, sadly, just so much hot air.
It just ain't possible with chemicals you'd want in a home laundry.
That's what I was talking about. Liquids clean great in warm or hot water.
Otherwise, all this talk about cold water cleaning is, sadly, just so much hot air.
It just ain't possible with chemicals you'd want in a home laundry.
ronhic
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Gordon...
I've mentioned before that there is a technical term here for that build up...
Scrud...
Fisher and Paykel even mention it in their owners manual...
It is the build up of various residues, but particularly fabric conditioner. Only way to deal with it without rebuilding is to do hot maintenance washes.....
I've mentioned before that there is a technical term here for that build up...
Scrud...
Fisher and Paykel even mention it in their owners manual...
It is the build up of various residues, but particularly fabric conditioner. Only way to deal with it without rebuilding is to do hot maintenance washes.....
Bathing: What a concept! Do all of you do this or is it a cult practice?
mysteryclock
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I wonder if that grey scrud...
...was actually fabric softener buildup more than liquid detergent, since some FSs are based on beef tallow and other similar nasty ingredients? I remember how green/blue, gunked-up and nasty FS dispensers could get...
...was actually fabric softener buildup more than liquid detergent, since some FSs are based on beef tallow and other similar nasty ingredients? I remember how green/blue, gunked-up and nasty FS dispensers could get...
Well Fabric Conditioner/Softener is a good, plausible theory here, but they NEVER use washer softeners. The machine has a solenoid controlled dispenser, and it was as clean and dry as it was when I delivered the machine the first time. I inquired about that and he and his wife both laughed...."We don't have time to remember to go down into the basement (where the washer is) and add softener". They didn't remember that the machine had a timed dispenser. If they use softener, I was told they used dryer sheets.
Good theory though.
A few years ago I noticed some gray scrud on the auger of my 1986 Kenmore BD. At the time I was using liquid detergent, and seldom ever used liquid softeners. There is definitely a built-up due to liquid detergents.
Gordon
Good theory though.
A few years ago I noticed some gray scrud on the auger of my 1986 Kenmore BD. At the time I was using liquid detergent, and seldom ever used liquid softeners. There is definitely a built-up due to liquid detergents.
Gordon
