Pump Out Heights

[yogitunes]

I have a Maytag helical drive, non-anti siphon valve, with a factory 7ft drain hose.....

problem is when I place the hose in the drain pipe, which it 5ft off the ground, the machine will drain during initial start, but when it reaches high speed, and the remaining water from the clothes get spun out, the water barely pumps out, if its the first spin, it will suds lock during the spray rinse, if its the last spin the water logs in the outer tub and causes the inner tub to slow down....

now if I take the hose out of the pipe and place it in the laundry tub, all the water gushes out, and everything is normal...never a suds lock, or water log

My question is how high can one of these machines pump out, and does anyone else experience this?......seems with a 7 ft hose it can pump distance, just not height!

NOTE: suds lock from using Sears detergent!...thats what seems odd

 

[appnut]

Martin, see if you can access a use & care or installation guide on the Maytag site for your particular model or series. that should tell you just how high the drain hose can be. 5 ft does seem a bit high. 2-3 feet is more "normal" height.

 

[cfz2882]

slipping pump belt?

should be easily able to pump out at 5 feet-i saw a filter flo
that had to pump quite a bit higher than that and it did it
without trouble. Turbine type pumps draw more power when there
is more pressure on the outlet,giving greater chance of belt
slippage pumping to a greater height(centrifugal pumps draw
most power with open flow,less with restriction)
Could take the front panel off and watch the pump pulley during
pumpout to see if it slows.

 

[dnastrau]

Pumping height

I have a "06", "10" and "12" series Maytag manual and it says the minimum standpipe height is 36" to use without a siphon break. However, it does not list a maximum pumping height.

On a related note: I remember being told once by a salesperson that the old GE Filter-flos were the best machines to use when pumping into a high standpipe. I don't know if that is true or not...

Andrew S.

 

[cfz2882]

just did a test:

this thread got me curious so i did a test with my 1984 SQ #2
got the drain hose up to 8.5 feet(as high as i could easily
go)and did a load to see if it would pump out-pumped out with
a slightly reduced but still strong flow at that height.
The drain section of the pump on this speed queen is almost
exactly the same as a maytag's,so maytag should have no trouble
at all with 5 feet...

 

[qsd-dan]

Couple of things I have run into that cause this problem:

Restriction in the lower tub fitting where the tub to pump hose is connected to. I've seen LOTS of build-up accumulate there, usually from owners who do cold water washes only.

Could be a restriction in the either tub to pump hose or drain hose.

Another possibility is the pump bearing needs a shot of turbine oil. After a full rebuild on my '75 806, I was having the same issue you describe. After oiling the pump (I do this with all of my machines as a routine maintenance), the problem surprisingly disappeared. Also, make sure the pump belt isn't, worn, oil soaked, or have any grungyness on it. It wouldn't hurt to make sure the belt tension is correct.[this post was last edited: 5/31/2010-19:34]

 

[yogitunes]

Thanks for the info guys...

this is my 1974 A107 I got from the estate sale that was still in the box, brand new yes, but still sitting for all those years, runs super quiet, so as not to say there shouldn't any issues with this machine, but it has a powerful force when in the sink that the hose almost jet propels up and out, thats when I placed it in the standpipe, but then the load would sudslock and leave the clothes soaked at the end of the cycle...I'm gonna try some or your ideas, I even have a spare pump and belt to put on, just to see if there is a difference....

I know GE FF are great for high pump out levels, actually had one that did this same thing as the Maytag, changed the pump and all was well, but from observation, there didn't seem to be anything wrong with it...

Thanks again guys...will let you know what happens!

 

[70series]

The way we had it set up with our A206, as well as the washers before and after, was that the drain hose was connected straight to the main pipe, and the connection was more than 5.5 feet off the ground. There were never any issues of delayed or insufficient draining so your washer should have no problem doing so at this height. Hopefully oiling the pump will solve the issue.

Good luck,
James