Question.....

[bosch2460]

I am probably going to be in the market for a new dishwasher in the next month or 2. However, since I do a lot of baking, I use the professional baking sheets which are 13" x 18". I despise to wash dishes by hand. I really want a Miele or a Bosch for quality purposes. Do ya'll know if any models, American or foriegn, that will hold 14 inch (or more) plates, etc in the bottom rack?? Thanks for the input.

Joel

 

[vivalalavatrice]

Full bottom rack

Hi Joel, by the way what you are asking for I can say you that here the topreated DW models of some brands, allow you to extract completely the upper rack and get the bottom rack with the entire tub height to be fitted with any kind of baking sheets.

For example Whirlpool in the built-in line DW has got a model with a features called Spazio51, meaning that taking away the upper rack you can hand in the bottom one dishes untill 51cm of diameter! LOL... Naturely, this is referred to very big pans or baking sheets... o well I know people that would quitely eat in a dishes 51cm big :-D

GoodBye
Diomede

 

[glamwales]

Hi there ,

I have a bosch which allows me to remove the top rack and fit a special shower head for oven shelfs, backing sheets and even bins etc.

 

[bosch2460]

Thanks for the input guys. But I really wanted to be able to use it normally without having to remove the upper rack. I ALWAYS run Bob Loads....cause I want to get my moneys worth out of every load, and the fact that I hate doing dishes by hand. Any more suggestions would be great. Thanks.

Joel

 

[cuffs054]

Check out the higher model Frigidaires. I often wash baking sheets and have no problem. Usually set them on the extreme left of lower rack and have no issue with upper wash arm.

 

[frigilux]

Bosch2460-- You want a Maytag Tall-Tub model. I have the TOL (stainless interior) model 8951 and it cleans pots/pan/baking sheets perfectly. The capacity is amazing and it's extremely flexible for loading.

Maytag's line is a little odd---there are three top models; each is available with either a stainless steel or plastic interior. The two top models are the 8951 (stainless) and the 7601 (plastic). I highly suggest either of those.

I bake a lot as well and use the same rimmed baking sheets you're referencing. They fit with no problem. I have 13" dinner plates that fit with no problem, so I'm sure it will take your 14" plates, although you might have to raise the top rack to the upper position.

My favorite feature---one I initially thought I'd hate, and which almost caused me to look elsewhere---is the tiered upper rack. It allows you to put tall items either in the left half of the lower rack or the right side of the upper rack.

I had a TOL Frigidaire last year, and although it was a good machine, it can't clean bakeware/pots/pans like the Maytag. The Frigidaire's tub is a little shorter than the Maytag's, so it doesn't take really tall pots, etc.

I have a load in the machine right now, but later, I'll put some big bakeware pieces in it and post photos here so you can see what it will take.

Here's some info on the two Maytag's I recommend. First, the 8951:

 

[frigilux]

And now the plastic-interior version. It doesn't have completely hidden controls, but the cycles and options are the same.

 

[babyboy]

LG dishwashers allow you to wash 14 inch plates/items in the bottom rack, if you raise the upper rack or 12 inch plates in the top, if you lower the upper rack.

LG Top Control, Integrated Dishwashers | LG USA

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Some Miele dishwashers have special inserts for the lower rack. The smaller insert holds 31 cm plates (approx. 12 inch) and the larger one 35 cm plates (approx. 14 inch) -> see video.

Here is a link to a video about the Miele rack layout:

http://www1.miele.de/media/haushalt/video/Korbgestaltung_DSL.wmv

Below, you can see the larger insert.

HTH, Alex

 

[frigilux]

OK, here are some pictures with typical bakeware in my household.

First, bottom rack with six 13 x 18" rimmed baking sheets. The upper rack is in the low position.

 

[frigilux]

Two 13 x 9" standard cake pans on the left; four 13 x 18" rimmed baking sheets fill out the rest of the rack. The cake pans stand up lengthwise.

 

[frigilux]

Inside the machine, to prove they fit. Upper rack is still in low position.

 

[frigilux]

Upper rack in low position; two 5-quart mixing bowls from my KitchenAid mixer; a tall 7-quart dough-rising bowl; a standard medium mixing bowl.

 

[frigilux]

And it's all loaded up! This is a normal post-baking load for me---usually the first of several. Plus, I stuff little plates, bowls, etc. around all the open spaces.

I cook a LOT and often run the machine 6 or 7 times a day. It has given me no problems in the 10 months I've had it. Unlike some tall-tub machines, everything in the upper rack comes spotlessly clean. And no filter to clean, ever.

Again, this is top-of-the-line model 8591 from Maytag. It was about $950.

 

[tomturbomatic]

Maytag tall tub dw

I sure am glad that it washes better than the tall tub KA machines. My regular tub Maytag is a killer.

Hey, going back to those Maytag specs, something's crazy.
Hi Temp Wash option: Additional rinse improves results in hard water situations. Why don't they call that option Extra Rinse since it sounds like it has nothing to do with high temperature washing?

 

[appnut]

Tom, it was a marketing spin faux paux. The high temp option explained in the manual states the water temp is raised during the main wash and also adds an extra rinse. At one opoint in time, the WP cousins added a true rinse, rather than purge, when high-temp wash waws aded. AT one time, Maytag called htis High-Temp Scrub. I believe nmaineman36 had a Maytag MDB7300 or MDB7600 and it had an extra rinse option on the panel. Maytag did have that optoin on bhigher-end models. Now they have to consolidate functions/features within thes same sspace of control panel. Personally, I cannot understand why there's a Sanitize rinse option as well as 160 degree rinse on Eugene's model. But the set temp goal is different for the two. Time was also, when the pots & pans cycle aws selected, the tempt boost period was at the beginning of the wash phase. The high-temp option had that phase toward the end of the main wash. Keeps my head spinning at times. Even less than 10 years ago on Mechanical Maytags, the high-temp boost option also improved drying results because the heater was on more consistently during the dryu cycle than with that option not selected.

 

[frigilux]

Tom-- I find two oddly-executed features on my Maytag dw:

1) The high-temp wash option adds an extra rinse (you've already discovered that)

2) The 160-degree wash option actually provides a 160-degree rinse.

It's an awesome dishwasher, though. I couldn't be happier with it.