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Anything that won't make your trash stink too bad until the next pickup should go in the compost bin or in the trash bin, not down the disposer.

Years ago, we had a GE disposer. The recommended way to sharpen the blades was to run a glass soda bottle down it.

That was a parlor trick. We didn't do the sewer system or the treatment plant any favors by sending ground glass down the line. And I sure wouldn't do that if I had a septic system.

A conscientious person might save vegetable scraps/peelings in a freezer bag for making stock later instead of running them down the disposer.

I don't run stringy stuff down our disposer. But see above - stringy veggies won't rot enough until the next trash pickup to cause a stink problem anyway.
 
I had a compost pile enclosed in a plastic deck storage box (w/ the bottom removed) after my real composting box got blown to bits by the wind!

Unfortunately I was forced to tear down my composting box & get rid of its walls & lid (and of course shovel up all that garbage!) due to rats in my neighborhood...

-- Dave
 
Good thing I am not a conscientious person..I don't have just one disposer. I have two installed in my house.

and I put EVERYTHING down my sink.I even have a commercial disposer that I have never used but, it is just a matter of

time before I do install it and find any excuse to be wasteful.
 
Like Volsboy 1 I like seeing stuff get shredded and krushed.But my plumbing and septic system has to be babied.for the most part disposers are strong enough to shred most anything put down them-but is the plumbing system able to accept it?For folks shredding bottles and such maybe they need an Eidal shredder or an SSI shredder-vist their website and you can see various things shredded.Komar's website has some good shred&krush videos,too.Hours of entertainment for shredder,disposer,and krusher fans!Like in Volsboy 1's GE disposer pictures-the high speed GE don't have a shred ring as others do-but an impact plate-spike like thing on the lower side of the hopper.The slots around the flywheel are the sizing slots.the waste stays in the shred chamber until it is ground fine enough to drop or wash thru the slots.
 
Plumping

How well it works is all down to how good the pluming is I have had a WD for a long long time and would not think of living with out it, just use plenty of water to flush it clean each time its used and wash daily with washing up liquid, bleach & very hot water
 
We had a BIG discussion on disposals a year or two ago. Wes and I are probably among the most liberal when it comes to putting varied wastes down the drain.

I would say the disposers/disposals are more prone to wives tales than any other appliance. Ask three people what you can and can't put down a disposer and you'll probably get three totally different responses. :)

What amazes me is that most people I have talked to have never tried putting down their disposers, the very things that they say you can't. In other words, they listened to someone else and took their advice without even trying it for themselves. Such is how wives tales get spread.

Experiment. On the rare chance your drain stops up. Big deal, unclog it. Odds are you won't have to as you will most likely find almost anything that goes down the hole will be disposed off.

From what I have read disposers were created, initially, to reduce the spread of disease and vermin by getting organic wastes out of public trash systems and landfills where they decay and foster maggots, flies, and rodents. Other than large amounts of corn husks and heavy beef bones, I put virtually all food wastes down the disposer. I am anal about having a clean trash compactor and trash cans.

Beyond food wastes, I also put down dirty napkins and paper towels that have absorbed messes such as milk, bacon grease, that would putrify in the trash.

Like Arbilab, I have found the series wound General Electric disposals to be about the fastest at getting rid of most wastes. They definately outclass ISE and Annaheim made disposers on pork chop bones and corn cobs. Chicken bones are not even a remote challenge. The old GE series and GE induction (late 1970's and earlier)are among the few brands that don't bounce around fruit pits for a long time before getting rid of them.

The GE series wound has a single "cutter" mounted on the stainless steel hopper. The TOL series unit had the "Carboloy" cutter, which is the hardest steel made by man. As Wes said, the 8000 rpm motor of the series units liquifies many food wastes like a blender, even before the cutter gets a chance to work on it. The cutter slices hard wastes as opposed to most other units that have a shredder ring and have to abrade waste down.

The older Maytags, before ISE started making them, are also among my favorites as they do just about everything well, and are very quiet.

I have a pre-ISE Viking right now, which Viking made from Hobart's Kitchen-Aid design when Hobart sold them the rights. It was almost a $400 machine over ten years ago. It has a ton of torque, but even so, it bounces fruit pits around forever before they get ground up. But it's still a neat machine with automatic reversing and the "Wham-Jam" jam breaker. Despite it being built like a Mack truck with a heafty 1 hp motor, it is still slower than my series wound GE on disposing of pork chops bones and corn cobs.

This is saying a lot as it only has a 5.0 amp 1/2hp motor. It will eat up cobs almost as fast as you can feed them, but it you do this for too long, it will overheat and the shut itself down until it cools (after about four or five cobs). The Viking never overheats, I think you could feed it cobs all day and it would never break a sweat.

The old Universal Waste-Kings (not today's Annaheim buyilt units), that Wes speaks of, are legendary.

Anyway, I've gotten off the track. I think you will like your ISE Excel. You can rest assurd that it will take care of potato peelings, corn cobs and watermelon rinds with ease. I had bought the KA version of it, and used it for a few months, to try it out (I have since given it to my sister and brother in law) , and I liked it. The only problem I found was paper towels would sometimes hang up on the rind flipper and slightly throw the machine off balance, making it vibrate the sink. It eventually flies off, or other wastes will push it off, and then you are fine, though.

Enjoy it, you will be surprised at what you can now dispose of!!
 
Newspaper

When I was young I once witnessed a science project that involved the shredding of a large amount of newspaper in an old disposer. It was a backyard ordeal that likely had the neighbors kinda nervous, John and Jeff were known for such antics. The disposer seemed to handle it well, no idea what model it was but it was vintage. The pulp wouldn't be a good idea for your drain though... As I recall the pulp was dried and turned into insulation or something like that.

I've had good luck with running the disposer right before the dishwasher goes into the drain cycle. LOTS of hot water and plentiful after flow and I have never had a clog.

The ice trick mentioned up thread is great for cleaning (as well as keeping your ice fresh). I have never had any odor that wasn't due to gunk accumulating on the bottom of the rubber splash guard, keep it clean. If you have a cheap builder model with a non-removable splash guard its time for a new disposer!

Phil
 
Shredding of strange things in disposers-Besides thew newspaper for the science project--yes the disposer should be able to grind the paper.In the Farm Show magazine they had an article about a person that had a small goat farm and need to grind some of the harder grain for his goats so it would be easier for them to eat.since it was a small farm he didn't want to buy a large and expensive grain grinder.Instead he went to an appliance place and got a used,"pull" ISE disposer for free.Instead of using the disposers motor-he took the motor casing off and used the rotor as a pulley with a flat belt-that way the farmer could power the device with another electric motor or his farm engine.the article mentioned the disposer shredded the grain just right for his goats.The disposer he got had the cast shred ring and swivel cast hammers on the rotating shredder.He grinds with the machine dry.
 
Thanks Guys for your answers..

Past a few days after the installation, i can say i'm 100% happy with my new disposer.

The only thing I haven't thrown in it was glass, metal scraps, and diamonds (maybe it wouldn't resist LOL)

I still shocked with it's speed. Maybe because I had a previous model that was too basic and also too old.

I started by the things that ISE videos show. Lemons, pineaple tops, corn, etc.. then I started feeding other "polemic"residues like pasta and cooked beans (always small amounts at once and slowly, with lots o water.

And guess what... absolutelly nothing happened!

Curiously only one thing made the safety switch pop out: WATER!

I filled the sink until it overflows, turned the disposer on and pulled the drain plug out.

the sink drained amazingly fast (no backup on the other sink) but when it was less than half inch to end draining, the disposer suddenly turned itself off but I just reset the button and it went to normal operation again.

If there's a disposer better than this, I don't know because ISE is the only brand available here and it's almost impossible to be found. (only in fancy kitchen furniture stores like Florense, next to $60.000 refrigerators and $8000 wall ovens that are usually sold to stupid bitches that don't even know how to prepare a Cup Noodles). But I can say I'm still amazed with it's power and I hope it lasts at least 50% of the years the previous one lasted (and still working)

The other brand available was Mr. Clean, by Franke. I'm not sure but it's design looks like the BOL Wasteking disposer and the power is the same as the old ISE and it was only less than 10 dollars cheaper so, why take the risk? At least ISE is a well known brand.
 
My first experience with a garbage disposer was when I bought this house in '97. It had a vintage Waste King SS5000. Worked sort of ok for a while, but after a few years I noticed that it would pop out the reset button if it got anything more challenging than a string bean. I replaced it with a (gasp) Titan (Anaheim/new WK) 3/4 HP. I have to say the Titan works just fine - but I don't care for the more narrow throat on it. I kept the old WK around for a year - even offered it up for free here, but no takers. So it finally made it into the trash bin. But I kept the sink ring assembly.

The Titans are sold at Costco, periodically on discount for as little as $80 for a 1.25 HP model. Personally I think the extra HP is overkill, but it probably doesn't hurt sales.

Generally however I don't put much down the disposer anyway. Maybe something that will stink too much, or scraps that make their way into the sink and are too much bother to gather up and put in the trash can. And of course, the occasional hapless spider ;-). I am more cautious with the disposer because for a few years the drain line from the kitchen would back up into the shower stall - yeeech. It took me a while to correct that - I think there was something solid (shampoo bottle cap?) blocking the drain line. Worst part is the washer is on the same line and it would dump enough water into the shower to get the floor wet. Once I ran a 50 ft power auger through the drain, it finally cleared for good and there have been no more such backups. But I decided to keep the use of the disposer to a minimum on general principle.

What I've heard is not good for drains, even with a good disposer, in general, are things like egg shells (I'm guessing the calcium tends to collect in the pipe and cause clogs), and coffee grounds. I think putting stuff like glass or even plastic down a disposer is not bright, though.

I do keep an active compost pile but this generally only gets spoiled food from the fridge that I don't want to keep around until the next trash pickup, plus garden clippings/leaves/etc. It rarely stinks if the "hot" or "green" materials (protein rich) are layered with the "cold" or "brown" materials. And the temp can get hot enough to fry a mouse or rat.
 
I wouldnt worry about eggshels, Rich. Trust me, they won't clog up ypur plumbing as neither will coffee grinds. Coffee grinds came up in our last major discussion on disposers, so it must be an enduring wives tale. Eggs shells are a new one on me.

You ask ten people about disposals and you'll get ten wives. And they'll be very adamant, saying,

"Oh, you can't put.....(fill in the blank by choosing one, "peas, corn cobs, bones, egg shells, bread crusts, potato peels, bananna peels, watermelon rinds, meat scraps, peach fuzz.") in a disposal.

Of course, if you ask them if they have ever tried to dispose of the item they say you can't you will get..

"No, but my... (choose one and fill in the blank, "uncle, wife, cousin, boyfriend, girlfriend, friend, lover, aunt, mortician") did and their plumbing was stopped up for a week, they had to call Roto Rooter and have a bulldozer dig up the main drain line in their....(choose one and fill in the blank, "front yard, back yard, street in front of their house, sewage plant ten miles down the road") and it costs them... (choose one and fill in the blank "fifty dollars, hundreds of dollars, thousands of dollars, nearly two months pay")!

HeHe. Ask if they have read their manufacturer's instruction manual and you will probaly get a deer-in-the-headlights stare.

Often times, if there is a clog, it's like Rich said it was something else in the drain line. Old build up, a bottle cap, a tampon, etc. They just happen to be using the disposal at the time when the constriction finally blocked completely. so whatever they were grinding at the time has now gotten the blame as that terrible substance that can't be put down a disposer, and voila, the birth of a new wives tale, which of course, will be spread around the next day at the office. :)
 
I once cautioned someone on this forum about egg shells, here was my caveat that was skimmed or skipped when it was read.

"Have your lines checked for restrictions, or flush them down slowly with plenty of water."
I had a house that the double sink plumbing was shared with one trap and line. There was a half diameter restricter on the garbage disposal side, If egg shells, or actually anything was fed too quickly it would clog at this point necessitating you having to pull the drain to clean it out. Egg shells pack very tightly and almost like concrete in this situation and was difficult to tap out.

If your drain is full flowing, and your sewer can handle it, there isn't much that you can't feed a disposal. . . At least that's what Jeffery Dalmer once told me. <wink> <wink> (giggle)
 
disposer tailpipes

Harley, those tailpipes that allow a disposer to be outleted to the other sink, in a double sink, are a common source of problems (as you know from experience.) Some manufacturer's warn against installing their disposers with one of these.

I brought this up in our last major discussion on disposers. I had a new house and also condo which had the disposals mounted this way. It's a quick and cheap way for plumbers to install a disposer. One of the first things I did was to repipe this poor-excuse for a plumbing job.

To use the disposer tailpipe, the installer has to turn the disposal so the front faces the side of the cabinet then shoots out the wastes straight into the other sink line. Not only is it likely to cause a clog, but it looks terribly unprofessional (a polite way of saying it looks like crap.) Disposers are designed to discharge from the rear, with the manufactuter's name and logo on the front, so you see them when you open the cabinet.

With the disposer tailpipe (aka, "the idiot's disposer installation device", the wastes from the disposer are forced to make an instant 90 degree turn in a space less than half the diameter of a pipe.

If you are putting a disposer, spend the couple of extra bucks and put in a separate trap and line, not only will you elimante cligs, but its also much quieter as with a disposal tailpipe the noise from the disposer comes right up the other sinks drain.
 

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