Questions about newest Speed Queen top-load washers

[mercer]

So I see the Speed Queen top loaders now feature a "Normal Eco" cycle. According to the owner's manual it's supposed to use less water, especially less hot water. In addition, the manual says it's to be used for washing "everyday cottons and linens." That doesn't clear things up for me, though. Perhaps Normal Eco would be best for tiny loads or lightly-soiled items? Also, on the newest model with mechanical controls (AWN432SP113TW01), there's no more separate fabric selector knob; you apparently have to use main timer dial for that. In addition, Heavy Duty and Permanent Press are combined on the dial now, so does that mean there are now no differences between the 2 cycles?

I'd post photos to illustrate my points; unfortunately, the Speed Queen website no longer provides close-up photos of their washers' and dryers' control panels.

 

[mtn1584]

mercer
It looks like the last mechanical model has indeed combined the Normal and Permanent Press Cycle into one cycle without any difference.
A Permanent Press Cycle on older SP washers and the new electronic models, have a fast wash speed and a slow spin speed to prevent wrinkles.
The normal eco cycle was to appease the Fed Govt. regs about water usage. I doubt the cycle is effective at all. Its on the new machines to meet the regs and still allow traditional full fill was and rinse cycles.
As a matter of fact the new machines fill HIGHER than my AWN542 when it was new. I had to adjust the water level. Because the new machines have this stingy cycle it is back to the high fill to the rim wash and rinses.
MIKE
I want a new electronic machine!!
Mike

 

[gusherb]

You can consider the Normal Eco cycle there for decoration. I have the AWNE82 and the only thing I could possibly imagine it being effective on are light fabric, light soil "freshen up" loads. As far as using less hot water, the one time I ran the NE cycle I set it to hot, it started on warm for about a minute then switched over to cold for the rest of the fill. I would consider that simply a cold wash...with a splash of warm water lol.

 

[combo52]

Normal Eco Cycle On New SQ TL Washers

Is basically a cold wash with a spin spray rinse only, the directions tell you not to use fabric softener when using this cycle.

 

We are selling a lot of the new AWN432s and I am going to bet that this cycle will be used a lot more than many think. When you consider that about 1/2 of users today only use a cold wash anyway and in my testing the spray rinse seems to do an decent job, I really don't think that most people will notice the difference. After all if one was looking for top cleaning and rinsing performance these washers are not exactly the best choice.

 

One possible benefit of the spin rinsing if this cycle is used a lot is that the main water seal will probably last a lot longer because the beneficial detergent will not get rinsed away from the tub seal in the center of the outer tub. Over the past few years we have been seeing bad main tub seals during the 3 year warranty period on machines that have the 2nd rinse feature when it is used a lot.

 

[mrb627]

Normal-ECO and the Spin Spray Rinse

Is it three 50 second sprays on the N-ECO machine?
Looks like a lot of the spray hits the base of the agitator.
The spinning agitator would disperse water up on to the clothes, right?

(420/60) = 7 rps * 4 fins = 28
28 slaps per sec * 50 secs per spray * 3 sprays = 4200 slaps to get the detergent out.

How many more slaps do you need?

MRB

 

[combo52]

Normal Eco Cycle On New SQ TL Washers

There are not many holes in the bottom of SQ TL washes and they are pretty small, so as long as the water hits the agitator or the bottom of the wash basket it will go through the clothing to rinse them.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

so about the heavy duty cycle...

So you're saying that the permanent press cycle is now for extra heavy sturdy cotton fabrics now because they combined it with the heavy duty cycle? I remember when whirlpool/maytag combined the normal and casual cycles together. Please get something straight. I could've understood if speed queen designed the colors cycle combined with heavy duty.

 

[nickatnight]

Mercer.....

SQ provides cycle operation tables for the E-model in the owners manual. On the first read, they are as clear as mud.

After spending some time with it, this SQTL seems to guarantee such things as low agitation & spin speeds from wash to final spin on the Bulky cycle. For Permanent Press, it would be low spin speed from beginning to end.

Uncertain on how SQ would choose to divvy up the speeds on the combined Heavy Duty & Permanent Press Cycle. Would have to wade through the published tables for the mechanical model.

It's not perfect, but we're glad we chose the electronic model.

 

[nickatnight]

Correction....

I meant low agitation speeds for the Bulky Cycle through the wash & rinse cycles.

Miss read the table, again. It's easy to do.