Not old school, just obvious common sense. If you want to save water and energy go front load, there is only so much a top loader can do with energy regs before it becomes impossible to obtain great results.
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To add insult to injury, the Maytags on the dorm were only single speed. The agitation was brutal and there was no spray rinse on top of that. The longest agitation time was 10 minutes. My clothes didn't smell fresh in the Maytag machines. The Speed Queen Laundry machines were a completely different story.
To add insult to injury, the Maytags on the dorm were only single speed. The agitation was brutal and there was no spray rinse on top of that. The longest agitation time was 10 minutes. My clothes didn't smell fresh in the Maytag machines. The Speed Queen Laundry machines were a completely different story.
Do you remember the model number of those Maytags? I'd like to see the cycle and design for the sake of curiosity. And how much control the owner has over water level.
kalanikaau1
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I resonate your views on a SQ machine, having just restored a 2018 model.
In doing so I discovered that the machine is very robustly designed and constructed and agree with SQ having solved the outer drum leakage issue, the 3M sealant they specify to seal the drum to the seal appears to be formulated for severe marine applications. I also appreciate the fact that the outer drum is constructed from porcelain coated steel, I abhor plastic drums for the reason you cited.
I resonate your views on a SQ machine, having just restored a 2018 model.
In doing so I discovered that the machine is very robustly designed and constructed and agree with SQ having solved the outer drum leakage issue, the 3M sealant they specify to seal the drum to the seal appears to be formulated for severe marine applications. I also appreciate the fact that the outer drum is constructed from porcelain coated steel, I abhor plastic drums for the reason you cited.
maytag models for chetlaham
I believe they were the mat15mnaww. I don't remember right off hand, but they had a load size selector, cycle selector with 6 cycles, and a mechanical timer. The cycles were: whites, colors, bright colors, permanent press, knits/delicates, and woolens. It was a single speed unit. It was the Maytag Energy Advantage.
I believe they were the mat15mnaww. I don't remember right off hand, but they had a load size selector, cycle selector with 6 cycles, and a mechanical timer. The cycles were: whites, colors, bright colors, permanent press, knits/delicates, and woolens. It was a single speed unit. It was the Maytag Energy Advantage.
powerfin64
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situation normal, not surprised at all by his mentality. This is reason why he is blocked.
Perhaps Jerome just wants to be heard with tolerance and acceptance instead of being ignored? I can't imagine the type of personality it takes to block someone over differing experiences.
I take neither of you two have ever had to wash clothes will only half a tub of water, with a brutalist agitator at 180 strokes per minute.
I take neither of you two have ever had to wash clothes will only half a tub of water, with a brutalist agitator at 180 strokes per minute.
Jerome, my sincerest apologies for having experienced those Maytags. I understand your sentiment now. I found the tech sheet- there is a 3 position water level switch for small, medium and large. Apparently the normal selection of the load size switch is connected to the medium fill pressure contact; with the large fill contact <span style="text-decoration: underline;">NOT</span> being utilized! On units used outside the United States users can connect the normal section switch to the large fill contact.
Energy regs at work, where Whirlpool literally wired the machine to fill half way in both the wash and rinse. No spray rinse. Yet outside of the United States where freedom and true American values prevail, users can experience a full tub of water.
Whirlpool literally found a way to damage clothing. I'm sorry Jerome, now I understand why you feel the way you do. Hopefully others here can understand and empathize.
Energy regs at work, where Whirlpool literally wired the machine to fill half way in both the wash and rinse. No spray rinse. Yet outside of the United States where freedom and true American values prevail, users can experience a full tub of water.
Whirlpool literally found a way to damage clothing. I'm sorry Jerome, now I understand why you feel the way you do. Hopefully others here can understand and empathize.
to chetlaham
I later learned that other students on my dorm had the same issues where the water level fell short. What do people not understand? I don't need to own a machine just to experience performance. The Speed Queens take better care of my laundry and actually fill completely, and also do a spray rinse. I told the residential staff that the washers and dryers weren't doing a satisfactory job of cleaning due to the water level issue. I was told that I could do a smaller load, to which I was not impressed with that answer. If a tub is big enough to fill up with clothes, then the water level should match the clothes level which is at the top row of holes. That was what I expected. The Speed Queen would've fully saturated the load and agitated gentler with longer strokes with water at the top, like its older Amana and Raytheon counterparts which I believe is what today's Speed Queen Laundry machines are based off of. I find that clothes last longer with the machine agitating at 68 strokes per minute. I feel for the dorm students who have to deal with a machine that brutally agitates at 180 strokes per minute. Another friend of mine told me that the Maytag left stains in their jeans. And yes, it was the same washer that was in my dorm.
I later learned that other students on my dorm had the same issues where the water level fell short. What do people not understand? I don't need to own a machine just to experience performance. The Speed Queens take better care of my laundry and actually fill completely, and also do a spray rinse. I told the residential staff that the washers and dryers weren't doing a satisfactory job of cleaning due to the water level issue. I was told that I could do a smaller load, to which I was not impressed with that answer. If a tub is big enough to fill up with clothes, then the water level should match the clothes level which is at the top row of holes. That was what I expected. The Speed Queen would've fully saturated the load and agitated gentler with longer strokes with water at the top, like its older Amana and Raytheon counterparts which I believe is what today's Speed Queen Laundry machines are based off of. I find that clothes last longer with the machine agitating at 68 strokes per minute. I feel for the dorm students who have to deal with a machine that brutally agitates at 180 strokes per minute. Another friend of mine told me that the Maytag left stains in their jeans. And yes, it was the same washer that was in my dorm.
Jerome, as aloof as people are less than half a fill with a fascist agitator at 180 strokes per minute will get noticed by anyone. If anything Whirlpool has a liability on their hands. Its safe to say few on this site have experienced your Maytag otherwise they would have a very distinct, unshakable memory of it. Hopefully if no one is looking, some bold student will pop the control panel and swap the lead from medium to high. Thats what management should have done.
And yes, you will have stains when the clothes at the top don't even get wet or can't move. If you want to save water by filling with less water get a two belt Raytheon. those Maytags were nothing more than being able to legally sell a top load washer. I'm sorry you had to experience that Jerome. But sometimes the way I see it you have to see the ugly to appreciate the beautiful. I know I have after dealing with model Ts.
And yes, you will have stains when the clothes at the top don't even get wet or can't move. If you want to save water by filling with less water get a two belt Raytheon. those Maytags were nothing more than being able to legally sell a top load washer. I'm sorry you had to experience that Jerome. But sometimes the way I see it you have to see the ugly to appreciate the beautiful. I know I have after dealing with model Ts.
to back up what you said...
The maintenance guys didn't know what I was talking about. They said the machines were working fine. I disagreed and still do. Large load setting was a joke. I kept insisting that the water level should be higher. I wish the students would've staged a protest but I guess they didn't notice. What William8 and others don't understand is that it takes experience whether you own a machine or just use it wherever they're provided. I am an example of somebody who has used both types of machines. I think the clothes smelled like old used washing machine when taken out of the dryer, instead of fresh laundry detergent and fabric softener. Worse, the clothes didn't feel fluffy in the Maytags at the dorm unlike the Speed Queens here at my apartment complex. The last time I lived on the dorm before I moved, I had to insist my friends to take me to the laundromat to do my wash because I have gotten sick and tired of the lousy performance of the dorm Maytags. And this was from the moment I first went there to try out their machines which were Huebsch to see if I was dilusional. Apparently, I was not. This lead me to believe that I had to run the Maytags several times just to get the performance I would've gotten in a single run with the Speed Queens and the laundromat equipment. I wasn't lying! EVER!!!!
The maintenance guys didn't know what I was talking about. They said the machines were working fine. I disagreed and still do. Large load setting was a joke. I kept insisting that the water level should be higher. I wish the students would've staged a protest but I guess they didn't notice. What William8 and others don't understand is that it takes experience whether you own a machine or just use it wherever they're provided. I am an example of somebody who has used both types of machines. I think the clothes smelled like old used washing machine when taken out of the dryer, instead of fresh laundry detergent and fabric softener. Worse, the clothes didn't feel fluffy in the Maytags at the dorm unlike the Speed Queens here at my apartment complex. The last time I lived on the dorm before I moved, I had to insist my friends to take me to the laundromat to do my wash because I have gotten sick and tired of the lousy performance of the dorm Maytags. And this was from the moment I first went there to try out their machines which were Huebsch to see if I was dilusional. Apparently, I was not. This lead me to believe that I had to run the Maytags several times just to get the performance I would've gotten in a single run with the Speed Queens and the laundromat equipment. I wasn't lying! EVER!!!!
A sane person living in an insane world will be thought of as insane. If everyone wash like me the student protests would have forced the washers being changed out to Speed Queen within 24 hours. No one should have to walk around with dirty, damaged clothes. Whirlpool has no excuse, the resource saver spray rinse system was made into functional commercial machines so I have no idea why these Maytag hadn't taken that route. Or just do 3, 35 second spray rinses. But it goes to show you what arrogance married to ignorance will do. No thanks. People like you Jerome see the good, the bad and the light. For that I am grateful.
And yes Jerome, sadly forum members are bringing up ownership like its some sort of classism or elitism. As though a college student educating himself for the betterment of humanity isn't allowed to opine on blatant issues pertinent to the human condition.
And yes Jerome, sadly forum members are bringing up ownership like its some sort of classism or elitism. As though a college student educating himself for the betterment of humanity isn't allowed to opine on blatant issues pertinent to the human condition.
reviving threads
Excuse me chetlaham if I revive these threads, but there's a lot on my mind that needs to be said about these issues. Had there been a Raytheon/Amana or a Speed Queen washer in the dorms, none of these issues would've popped up in the first place. the Whirlpool/Maytag dd machines felt cheap and sounded that way too.
Excuse me chetlaham if I revive these threads, but there's a lot on my mind that needs to be said about these issues. Had there been a Raytheon/Amana or a Speed Queen washer in the dorms, none of these issues would've popped up in the first place. the Whirlpool/Maytag dd machines felt cheap and sounded that way too.
Bad seals gave these machines a bad name for home use. The dorm should've had Speed Queen- it makes more sense in a commercial or on premises environment, though energy regs are also to blame. Remember the half tub drain and refill as a rinse awhile back? That was Speed Queen on energy regs.
energy regs
I hate these stupid energy regs. At least Speed Queen came back to their senses.
I hate these stupid energy regs. At least Speed Queen came back to their senses.
Energy regs are people dictating design without actually knowing the physics behind home appliances.
Speed Queen Classic Laundry.
I just did 3 separate loads in the Speed Queen Laundry machines, and in true Speed Queen Classic fashion, it handled the biggest of loads which was my darks. I did a medium load of lights, and a small load of whites. All 3 machines handled them well. True luxury machines. I. Don't. Need. To. Own. Any. Of. THEM!!!!
I just did 3 separate loads in the Speed Queen Laundry machines, and in true Speed Queen Classic fashion, it handled the biggest of loads which was my darks. I did a medium load of lights, and a small load of whites. All 3 machines handled them well. True luxury machines. I. Don't. Need. To. Own. Any. Of. THEM!!!!
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