Reliability of US FL?

[brisnat81]

My 1980 Miele Model W423

Spins at either 900 or 1100RPM.

At the end of the wash it pauses and drains with the pump running.

Once the machine is empty, it starts tumbling backwards and forwards with the pump running.

Finally it goes into a clockwise tumble and keeps going, its not as fast as the distribution on my new Miele, but the clothes stop tumbling and start to move to the outside of the drum.

Then Click and woosh and its up to 900RPM in seconds. It seems to only get up to 1100RPM in the final spin increment, all other spins seem to be a 900RPM.

Out of almost 20 loads now, its never gone OOB or shown excessive vibration. It has 4 springs and two shock absorbers. It doesn have OOB sensors on the machine, but I've yet to see them triggered.

 

[the7]

Huebsch LTZ85

Tumble speed: 50 rpm (reversible)
Tumble Low speed: 41 rpm (reversible)
Distribution speed: 80 rpm (clockwise only)
Pulse Spin : accelerate from distribution speed (80) to a high speed (sound like 500 - 650 rpm), slow down back to 80 rpm; repeat.
Low speed:500 rpm
Medium speed:650 rpm
Fast speed: 1000 rpm.

For Regular Cycle
At the end of the last Rinse:
Distribution speed for 1 min (Pump On to start drain)
Pulse spin for 1 min (Pump On)
Medium spin for 5 min (Pump On)
Fast spin for 1 min (Pump On)
Fluff at low tumble speed for 1 min.

So far, for few testing (no laundry) final spins and several normal loads, LTZ85 is found to be working satisfactory.
LTZ85 has 4 shocks (damper with internal spring).

 

[bingwsguy]

the7

You are right about both. The ASKO has absolutely the most vibration free spin of anything I have seen even with jeans and sweatshitrs at 1600 rpm thanks to it's 4 shock suspension. The ASKO machines did have a ton of motor problems in the mid 90's as mine, my Mom's and friends of ours all had that problem. Me being the only laundry "nut" of the bunch hung in there through 3 motor replacements and finally a replacement machine from ASKO. I will say that ASKO USA was really great to deal with...I never had to demand anything, they just kept fixing and finally offered the replacement to me. That washer, when it worked, was the best machine I have ever used...my white laundry was the whitest ever! But when the replacement machine burned it's motor out on the 3 year mark (which was the warranty period for parts and labor), I had it fixed and gave up the fight finally, selling the pair for a ridiculous low price. I went looking and really thought the Miele was a nice machine, but for the price of the washer alone, I was able to get a Bosch Axxis pair. The Bosch is a nice machine, but the ASKO was a much better performer over all. On the other hand, my Bosch dishwasher is a better performer than the ASKO dishwasher....go figure

 

[norgeman]

What FL to buy?

Well if it was up to me I would not hesitate one minute to buy Frigidaire the 3.1 or the 3.5, either one of these models. Why? You ask well that is easy because of Firgidaires assosiation with White-Westinghouse which made front loaders from as far back as I can remember. Which was in 1938 when they came out with the first washer that did not have to be bolted to the floor. Westinghouse was never really famous for their top loaders but always made a good front loader. Chestermikeuk love the Maytags front loaders. My question is why can't we get these same models over here in the U.S.?

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[vivalalavatrice]

Time...

I wonder...
If you had to hand-wash your laundry, you would be right to complain to the "time" taken to do washing...
BUT IT IS THE WAHSHING MACHINE THAT DOES IT ALL FOR YOU!!!
I wonder why American dislike so much long cycle in their wahsers...

In our European washer in the past, 2 hours was a "normal" time for a whitest whites cycle... reasonable for a cycle with pre wash (45°C), main wash (90°C) of 1h 30 min, 5 rinses with a inter spin and the final 10 min spin... (my grandma's washer worked like that, she took all the morning!!!)

Now they have shorted the cycle, this thanks to the tecnology that has allowed to heat water (always with built-in heater), to wash with lowest temp(60°/70°C, some has heavy-duty at 40°C!with A class energy), thanks to the more efficiency of the tumble-action, in less time, because in older washer the heating time was with the drum stopped, while now this time is used to tumble-soaking

Now some washers producers have heavy-cycle in 1h! While those who haven't heavy short cycle, add "Rapido" cycle in the list of the possible cycle you can select on your washer, which can last from 30 min to 60 min,

I honestly think that it's not a "tragedy" if you have to put your clothes in the washer and come back to her after 1h or 1h 30 min with more probability to find them cleaner than in a shorter cycle...

SURELY IN THE MEAN TIME YOUR WAHSERS DON'T EAT LADUNRY!!! LOL ))

Good Bye!
Diomede

PS: I happy American are "converting" to FL... how awful amount fo water use yor agi-TL!!!!!

 

[kenmorepeter5a]

New FL Maytag Washer in UK

Hello Mike, how are you doing? I'm deaf...my name is Peter. I'm best friend!

Is that newest Maytag FL washer....is that same as ASKO? right?

Have the Maytag's business address or website??

-- Peter (kenmorepeter5a)

 

[chestermikeuk]

MaytAsko

Hello Peter

The Maytags are made by Asko and I have had them nearly 4 yrs now, how time flys.

I love them and wouldnt be without them, I have always admired the ASko (ASEA) machines having sold them over 20 yrs ago, along with Miele, AEG, Kuppersbuch and De Detrich, names that where relatively unknown in UK and very expensive then.

The Maytag UK Website is very sparse but does have a pdf at the bottom of the page giving all the specifications etc.

I mainly use the 4 memory buttons which I have programmed to do:

1 = 95d Whites Extra Long wash
2 = 60d Towel medium wash
3 = 40d Short Wash
4 = Rinse & Spin

I mostly use the Memory 3 programme, which gives me a 40d short wash, 4 rinses, high water level and a 9min spin at 1600rpm all in 48 mins. I use this wash with higher temps as well 60/70d.

http://maytag.co.uk/

 

[sudsmaster]

If you had to hand-wash your laundry, you would be right to

Very good point, Diomede!

I guess some Americans can't "multi-task". Of course, many here have stuck their washer/dryers in the basement or in the garage, so they may object to spending any more time in those places than absolutely necessary. Unlike many Euro washer installations which are under counter in the kitchen or bath, easier to access when one is tending to other chores. And we may have gotten into the habit of expecting the wash to be done in 30 minutes or less, and even though a longer wash is really not an issue, a schedule may have been devised, for example, "do all the week's wash on Saturday morning, then go shopping" or some such thing.

I understand Europeans tend to run their washers every day, instead of once a week, so this makes the longer cycles less of an issue.

My Neptune pair is centrally located in my home, in an open area of kitchen/family room, so it's really no problem (other than noise) to run washes while working on the computer or cooking. The only hitch for me is that I like to line dry whenever it's not raining, so I tend to time the washing for early mornings so that there is time to dry the clothes outdoors. If I use the dryer then I can wash/dry pretty much any time of day (although with the old plumbing here, I prefer not to have the washer running when I'm taking a shower).