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Ralph: *kicks you* :-)

Chad: Our Best was plainish, but had a huge A/V sales area--I remember lusting over a Commodore 64 in the computer area, too. Great place to buy disks! I don't recall that the equipment was under glass or anything, but those details are lost to the sands of time, due to early-onset CRS that thirty-somethings like me apparently suffer *kicks Ralph again*

Chuck: Oh, YES! Lighting, small electrics, audio-video galore, furniture, and a huge toy department. Plus jewelry (which I ignored :-) ).
 
I have that beautiful blue Hoover Floor-a-Matic. Were the round Hoover vacs with the bump on top similar to the Sunbeams with a similar shape? I only remember the Power Drive Hoovers being the "Dial-A-Matic" solid bag chamber models that we were constantly unclogging for customers, especially with new carpet. Was this Concept One with Power Drive better or just cheaper? Thanks for the vacuum porn so nice and early in the morning.
 
Was this Concept One with Power Drive better or just cheaper

Tom,

I'd like it if a Hoover aficionado like Fred S, would answer this, but I am going to give it the old college try from what I'v heard from various "well-informed Hoover sources" long ago.

The jist is: After many years pushing the Dialamatic 1963-1978, and longer in the UK, Hoover USA decided that they weren't pleased, and never WERE pleased with the cleaning ability, of the Dialamatic and decided NOT to develop it any further. The engineers in N. Canton decided that a clean-air machine would NEVER clean carpets as well as a direct air type " think Convertible" which was still a "gold standard" that some were still trying to beat in 1979.

Hoover then foolishly as various folk attest, then sold the designs and right to the Dialamatic to Panasonic Company, or Matsushita Electric. Who corrected the few issues with the design, and began producing the machines very shortly thereafter. Enter the Jet-Flo Panasonic's, the first really good clean air vacuum cleaner, proven by history and MHO.

Hoover thereafter in 1979 introduced the first Concept One Series, that used a different setup including the direct air fan system. The machine cleaned beautifully proving the Hoover engineers right, but also wrong as history would attest later.

Several things differentiated the two that made one better than the other :

1. The QuadraFlex agitator, rather than a revamped and inappropriately spiraled 'Triple Action"-Convertible style brushroll, that was later corrected on the Dialamatic during it's production run, but still did not clean as well as a Convertible. (I'm sure that this MYSTIFIED" and confused the poor Hoover engineers to no end).

2. A horizontal motor like the Dialamatic before it, but with a fan at the end, coupled to an larger air intake from the brushroller cavity back to the fan. Better Airflow to the carpet, means better clean.

The Hoover Dialamatic in response used that small hose running back thru the nozzle housing and up to the back bag housing casing. And the way it jutted into the nozzle housing of the Dial was wrong dead straight ahead. Panasonic corrected that Immediately by slanting the intake a bit allowing the suction to move almost all the way across the nozzle housing.

3. Because the direct air Concept did not need alot of suction seals to get the air from start to finish. The air got dumped into a HUGE top fill bag like three times the size of the comparable Convertible C bag. The D bag that The Dialamatic used was smaller like that C bag and had the same width, and was UPSIDE DOWN From what Panasonic did later. the bag filled from the bottom like the Convertible. In a pressure system like the Dialamatic that was a stupid mistake. But the engineers never caught on. Panasonic engineers did.

4. IN almost every Dialamatic I have used they always suffered from weak, or anemic seals in many places, causing the suction to leak out in some places. This got worse as they aged and the seals dried out. How is a vacuum supposed to clean without suction. I have personally beefed up a 1178 with thicker seals around the bag compartment, and in the dial adjustment mechainism, and found that a properly sealed and maintained Dialamatic pulls quite a bit of air, and in the Automatic Adjuster ones, pulls that nozzle right down to the Carpet like a Convertible does, and gets the job done VERY well.

But, Hoover stubbornly stayed on the direct air bandwagon way after most other manufacturers, besides literally Kirby and Royal to their detriment. Once they decided, or were FORCED to make the decision that they COULD make a clean air/bypass system work for their 1997 introduction of the Windtunnel systems; their technology that THEY introduced was copied by nearly everyone. And just think for a second.

Imagine if you will that Hoover DID revamp the Dialamatic, with a more powerful motor, or dual fans, they improved the seals in the unit so there was little or no suction loss. They redesigned the suction opening in the agitator cavity a'la Panasonic to have more complete coverage of the cavity; then turned the bag fill spot upside down, (history has proven that It needs to be). AND then threw in the new Quadraflex agitator in the revised cavity. Never mind the possibility of on-board tools. And you can see where Hoover IMHO seriously missed the boat. And now that they're gone, we can only chew on the "what if's". Glad you liked the vac porn. I'm glad that a few people are liking it......

Chad
 
Other Stores

I seem to recall a couple of other stores we had growing up in South Florida.

1) Gold Triangle
2) Leeds
3) Jeffersons
4) Zayres
5) Lloyds
6) Burdines
7) Jordan Marsh

To name a few...
 
Fascinating

That's phenomenal to read about, Chad. Thanks so much for sharing all this!

I had no idea as to the reasons why for the Concept One, nor that Panasonic's Jet-Flo design really hailed from the Dial-a-Matic!
 
My First Microwave

We had a wonderful Best store here in Hampton,Va.I bought my Tappan microwave in 1981 there for around 300.00. I still have it and it looks like it came right out of the box. I loved going there just to browse around a really nice store.It was also torn down.What a shame.
 
Chad, Thanks so much for the great information. When I worked in Housewares at Rich's in the early 70s, we sold Eureka and Hoover. I had a Eureka Powermate vac like the blue 1269 except it was orange and did not have the raised headlight. Consumer Reports liked it. We bought the Princess version with the powermate for my mom, but the powermate vanished after a while. Before it vanished, it had a permanent residence under her bed.

The Eureka upright disposable bags filled through a snorkle from the top. We all became adept at removing the tube from the nozzle to the tank in the Dial-a-Matics to pull carpet fluff out of them and then had to tell people who had bought a machine with "superior cleaning ability" to keep the dial turned to medium suction for carpets. We took a lot of them back. We had an orange convertible that we bought when my parents carpeted the house. I had a beautiful blue one with the headlight that I left at home when I moved up here with my Eureka. The beautiful blue Hoover got destroyed somehow. Something must have fallen on it because I don't think it was possible to hit anything that hard with it to cause the damage it suffered.

I remember the Panasonic Jet Flo vacs and remember thinking that they looked like the Dial-a Matics, but did not know the sad history.

I think I remember some TOL Eurekas having a twisted metal agitator that was supposed to offer better cleaning because it blocked less air. The poor Eureka uprights we sold did not have much going for them in the way of styling, especially next to a Hoover D-A-M.

The Hoover clinics they offered were dreaded because people brought in horrible, filthy, smelly machines barely clinging to life and we had to write up claim tickets for them and house them in our stock room while the Hoover rep cleaned and repaired them. I swear for some of them, when it came to model/description I wanted to write POS in the box. It used to be $9.99 for labor with parts extra. When people came to pick them up, they were cleaner and working better, but some always wanted to fight about the parts charges.
 

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