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Lee, everyone knows lonliness, even most of us who are partnered. But you're dealing with some difficult percentages. Cleveland TN is a city of 37,000 people, apparently 36,000 of whom are evangelical Christians. And you're hoping to find a gay life partner?

In my view Rich had the best advice ("Be the man who want to date"), but your chances of meeting "the one" are obviously much better if you move to where "the one" lives.
 
And that is sad

That i would have to be forced, to leave my home, and everything i have known, my child hood memories, friends i went to high school with, and all, to be able to find a partner.
 
Lee,

You're quite right - it is easier to give advice than to need it.
Doesn't change the fact that some things are universal.

I forgot that your father had died recently. Losing a parent is way up there on the list of things which we only wish on our worst enemies. I don't believe in the modern bullshit called 'closure', but it is very true that you need time to cope with someone close to you dying. Lots of time. You would be shallow if that were not the case.

Still, it helps to talk to somebody about these things, it really does. Not to bring 'closure', not to 'get past it', not 'to work through it', but simply because it is such a sucker-punch and talking helps.

I don't know Cleveland, but I have spent some time in Tennessee. Lots of things to like about that state, some truly wonderful people there.
Not, however, the place I would expect to find happiness as a gay man. Is Dixie important to you? Then you might want to consider other places in the South where being gay is not lower on the social scale than, how does my friend from the deep South put it...oh, yeah 'she's just a come-here with a know-it-all mouth'.
Actually, she usually adds, 'bless her heart', but we will leave that aside.
You mentioned the holidays. OK, got news for you. They frequently suck. Take my family (please!).
My brother's contingent are all red-neck, 200% patriotic-red-blooded-love her or leave her-fundamentalist Christians. And that is just their positive side.
All have zillions of little kids they can't afford, all the kids, the moment they hit 12 or 13 (some are late bloomers) get pregnant/land in jail/both at once.
Most can, however, read...and that is good, because my number one Christmas present from year to year is books on how to 'cure' my homosexual perversion/lifestyle and 'come to Jesus'. Who, as we all know is also red-haired, green-eyed and looks like a bad day in the Scottish highlands meets Eire.
Dinner is spent with the various and assorted young folks inspecting them there 'foreign' foods set before them. The peach cobbler with real whipped cream I baked year before last was rejected because 'the cool-whip tasted funny...'
I have a picture of my partner in a big overstuffed chair. There is my cat hiding behind him, the push-nose is in his arms with his face buried (if I can't see them, they can't see me) and a 120lb (all muscle) dog is trying really really hard to convince the cat to let her hide with her. All four of them have the same look of terror on their faces: One of the wee bairns has discovered the cat's toy stash and is hitting the manger scene with a plastic contraption which has balls you can spin around, but never remove. The cat tired of it after she figured it out...took one minute. The kid is furious because she can't get the balls to rotate...

There will be a fist-fight or three, somebody's car will get keyed or worse, the sheriff will show up (or the cops), my parents will give everyone enough money to shore up GM and Chrysler...and they will all toddle off to go visit themselves on the other relations, leaving my parents, my partner and me with a house which will take us six solid hours to put back together.
No Christmas carols in German or Latin (that ain't American), no turning the TV off while presents are being ripped out of their boxes...
So, yeah, I can see how you would miss that.

Sheesh. Honey, get up off your ass, march right on down to the hospital or food bank or church and volunteer to do something for folks this coming season. There will be a use for you.
And who knows, there might even be a nice guy of the hom-0-sex-ual persuasion wondering why there aren't any nice guys in Cleveland.
 
hahahahah

Shane, your sarcasm is everything I needed to discover nothing and nobody can destroy the wonderful week I'm having.

I don't have to explain anything to you, but If you don't remember, a few months ago you asked the same bullshit.

Here goes the answer,ONE MORE TIME:

Dear Shane (tsc), I always lied my age. until some time ago I would never accept my body isn't so your anymore. But then I discovered age is only in my mind, not a number printed on personal documents. before you ask again, my body's age is "around" 50. (remember Hide or not to hide thread?)

Satisfied with this explanation? Now please, go to hell and have a nice day.
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Other members

Is there any sugestion of picture you want?

For now, here goes other pictures from him, WITHOUT PHOTOSHOP ENHANCEMENT.

Our pictures, as soon as he arrives here in Iguassu again.

I'll post our pictures changing rings soon.

Probably my friend John Belfry will take them. He'll come to Brazil for vacations and we decided to marry when he's here.

About some of my measures... well, I´m brazilian... That size is too normal here... not a big deal.

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this is much easier..

This is the reply, because he couldn't find my reply here as he doesn't understand English.

Ok guys, I hate that song, but it's special for him, that's why I decided to use when I did that video with all his pictures.

Maybe Shane or Panthera should contact the CSI (or CSI Miami, or CSI NY) producers and ask for a software.

Maybe you want a DNA sample too, I can swab his mouth or get some drops of his blood.

I just can't understand why the hell all this agression against me. It was a happy moment in my life and I wanted to share it with you that I always considered my friend. Nothing more than that. Now all this became a crime scene investigation. Even image softwares were sugested. Maybe we all should use latex gloves or we can contaminate the evidences or maybe I should put my boyfriend in a plastic bag.

What will come next? Every time I want to share something with you, I'm atacked by one or two members, always the same.

What the hell do you think? this is automaticwasher.org, not shaneistheperfectandnobodyelseis.org or onlypantheraownsthetruth.org

Now excuse me arrogants, nice guys, friends and best friends. I have a party to organize. I would love your help to prepare the celebration of the best day of my life, but I'm almost sure you'll be too busy bullying someone else.

Back in a few days, with the pictures (AKA evidences) for the AW's CSI staff.

 
Lee, (or any other of my msn or yahoo contacts) I need some help...
You've seen me many times on webcam.

Could you please explain to Mr. Shane by the 356456135646745613564561561536th time I'm not Chad?

Probably you'll have to draw it.

As I could understand, in the past there was a "Chad" in this website and since a few months ago, Shane believes I'm that fu**ing guy and started bullying me.

Enough!
 
Thomas,

I must apologize. Many times I have felt that your statements played fast and loose with the truth, and your decision to marry after having posted recently how great it is to be single and how you couldn't picture it surprised me.
To say the least.
Aain, my apologies.

As for "Chad" and Shane, Shane, I know we don't see eye to eye on many things. You can however, trust my judgment as a writer and teacher...Thomas is not Chad. Thomas is either not a native English speaker or (like me!) hasn't used the written language in a very long time. None-the-less, his command of the language far exceeds poor Chad's.
Personally, I felt and feel sorry for Chad. There are many less charitable people around here than he, myself frequently included.
 
No one here EVER suggested that Thomas and Chad were the same person, but rather that the penchant to play fast and loose with the truth reminded some members of the things Chad used to do and say, which were far more amusing (and destructive) than anything Thomas ever said or did.
 
Thank You Andrew

That is exactly what I meant. Obviously, I know Thomas and Chad are 2 different people.

Thomas- I still think you are full of shit. Since posting pics of your "bf" is so easy, why not take a few pics of you both together now?? Why wait until the "wedding"?
 
and..

"if" I am wrong, I will gladly apologize.

I certainly hope that you are not abusing Robert's website and wasting his bandwidth with a bunch of BS.

Don't you find it interesting that so many people here in the club doubt you also? I suppose we are all idiots right?
 
Panthera

Now I understand your reasons. I'm very glad to say I accept your apologies.

Well, I really loved my life as a single guy, but last week Chris made me realize I deserve much more than working during the day and enjoying my washers collection and my online friends during the night.
He makes me feel wonderful. He's my friend from many years and now he'll be my life partner. that's gorgeous.

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Shane

I'll love to post our pictures, not only to share my happy moments with my friends, but also to see your face.

I'm thinking about some videos too, is it enough for you to stop your ridiculous attitude? I can't stand you including my name in a mexican soap opera every single time I post something. PLEASE STOP! As I said before, this is automaticwasher.org, not a court. People come here to relax, to interact, to enjoy their friends and coleagues with same main interest, which is washing machine, not to be acused and have to show evidences of everything.

Shane, again, PLEASE STOP! I have no idea why you hate me so much if we don't know each other. IF I did you something, let me know where is my mistake, maybe I can try to fix it.

As I told before, but I missed the "and also": I'll take some pictures (and a video specially for you) as soon as he arrives here in Iguassu again in a few days, AND ALSO, when we marry.

Now I repeat the question: Will this be enough for you to stop this ridiculous and agressive acusations every time I post something here at AW?
 
Telling Porky Pies (Lies)

Hi Thomas,
I do hope your wedding is real and if so I am very happy for you.

But I want you to think for a moment about how you have been perceived by the members of this forum, in particular I am referring to your lying about your age. First you told us you were 28 years old and now you say you're 50 or thereabouts, which judging by the pictures you have posted here I personally don't believe (You look much younger). The point I am making is, by telling lies you have lost a lot if not all of your credibility within this forum.

I do wish you all the very best for your wedding and the future.

David
 
Oh for god sakes Thomas if I was you I would make it a top priority to post a picture of the both of you together. Its not difficult or time consuming, just grab your husband to be, hold the camera out with your hand, snap the photo and post it. Done, prove everyone wrong.
 
It's a shame to think that hottie Chris is a total bottom. I'm basing this observation on statements you have made about your preferred role, Thomas. He's a catch regardless, and we are all anxious to see a picture of the happy couple. X-rated is preferable if you want to e-mail one to me directly!

Ralph
 

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