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I got one for my mother. It works fine. There’s no start button, for whatever that indicates. When you close the door after opening it during a cycle, it restarts right away when the door latches.

Also, I saw one of these, with the position of the knobs reversed, on an episode of Zelensky’s show Servant Of The People. Took a picture of the screen, can look for it if anyone’s interested.
 
When my mom's dementia was beginning and she no longer could figure out her microwave I found a second hand small m/w that only had one dial, no start or stop buttons. You put the food in, shut the door and cranked the timer dial up to 15 minutes and that was all. She could still manage that for about a year. Then the day came that she put some foil wrapped leftovers in it and it caught fire which signalled it was time for us to get her into a care home.
 
@dadoes: Yup, the variable power control motor cycles a contact which turns on/off the magnetron X number of times each minute. The top user knob adjusts the timing, the lower the power level the longer the contact stays open and the higher the power level the longer the magnetron stays energized.

Elegant way of doing it, though I rarely use any other power level than 100%. The few times I've ever used a lower power level is when melting or softening butter. But other than that I let the food full power.

@Vacbear80: Small, but cozy. They offer a 0.9 cu 900 watt model too. I wish they offered a larger sizes as well, even an over the range model, but hey, this is a great start. UK knows that they want!

@ Suburbanmd: That can be a downfall, however at the same time the lack of a start button eliminates one more component that can fail. Typically you rotate the knob past 10 minutes, then set it to the time you need.

The only down side to not having a start button is that some people will close the door after they take out the food and forget to rotate the dial to "off". I've personally seen this in gas stations in the late 90s-2000s. Many of times we would stop to get a sandwich, and the micro would always be running empty with no one in sight. I thought it was kids playing around, until several times I saw people stick in a sandwich or coffee, turn the dial half way, watch the food until say the cheese started to bubble, pull the door open, grab it out, pitch the door shut and literally walk away 1/2 a second latter.

I honestly think microwaves are the few appliances that actually need a "push to start button" however I can also see the other side where a start switch would contribute to lower dependability in the home setting.

Key is being aware- and never relying on the door interlocks as primary control.
 
@petek: I can personally relate to your grandmother in part. I have difficulty focusing and figuring out how to use my GE over the range micro. Every time I use it its like the first time I'm using it and I keep hitting the wrong combination of buttons. The touch pad is just chaos and the superfluous complexity gives anxiety. And more than anything its just irritating.

One thing that I always fall for is that I will hit "4" and then "0" but the micro goes into 4 minutes of express cook. I first have to press "time cook" then press "4", "0" then press start. However, when I do remind myself of time cook, I sometimes accidentally press "timer", which I find is wrong, then I instinctively hit "clear/off" only finding out it doesn't work so I have to go back and hit timer again to get out of the kitchen timer mode. One things progresses into another and I find myself getting lost in a rabbit hole.

I've restored to hitting "30 seconds" most of the time, but after you hit 30 seconds you have to wait 5 seconds of run time until you can add another 30 seconds to add up the time. Just more complicated.

A bit off topic, but one thing I have found very cruel about electronic microwaves is that they rely on just the primary door interlock switch being open to prevent the turn table and fan from running when the door is open. Meaning if this one switch gets hung up, the turn table, light and fan will all start running when the door is opened which there are cases of that on the internet. Hits the average user by surprise questioning if they've been exposed to microwave energy as well as any first responders/doctors involved.
 
Office lunchrooms and 7-11s were probably the first places most people experienced their first microwave ovens in the late 70s and early 80s. Where I started at the railroad we worked in a track side wooden shack about 10 ft long each, two actually joinded together and a 3rd which was actually a construction site trailer off its wheels also joined. Furnished in the oldest passed down railroad furniture and desks. All I remember is there being a coffee pot and you were expected to bring your own lunch dinner. There was nowhere to cook. When the railway sold all those downtown yards in 1980 to build for Expo 86 we moved to a brand new modern terminal out in the hinterlands and they built a beautiful office building for us onsite. It was supposed to be a showcase of modern rail intermodal terminals. Beautifully carpeted, all brand new desks, typewriters, keypunches, printers, state of the art etc., nice bathrooms and a nice but small lunchroom. I got to pick some of the furnishings and decor and when it came to the lunchroom the plan was counters and sink and some sort of stove and a fridge. I feared they just pick one of those all in one things they used in the cabooses. I suggested a microwave instead and they ordered one.. It was a large full size two dial Hotpoint (GE). THe fridge was full size as well, and a toaster,electric kettle and coffee maker. Everyone was happy except for one surly employee who was afraid of microwaves and wouldn't go in there if it was running. He'd run out if someone came in and turned it on.
 
Reply number seven

No microwave has ever continued microwaving with the door open. It’s a very safe system. There are no record of accidents as such.

Chat you need to get a life and stop worrying about things that don’t happen. Yes, there some models where the fan or turn table, continues to operate after the door opens, when a door switch fails but they are not microwaving

No need to worry about first responders, etc

With all the problems in the world and all the real problems with appliances, why sit around and just make things up?

John
 
John; I completely concur with the safety of microwave ovens. They have multiple interlocks, as well as the electronic ones have an additional switch telling the controller that the door is open, so that it opens the relay powering the microwave. That is two sets of contacts open, plus the interlock monitor closed every time the door is open. 

 

Having said that, in our younger days, my friends made some unsafe and (in hindsight, foolish) experiments with microwave ovens trying to learn how they worked. We all got some degree of microwave exposure but none of us got hurt.   The results of exposure to microwave energy can cause burns which could be severe; however none of us ever had any lasting harm come from it. My reason for explaining this is to say, even if all the interlocks failed, you would not be injured unless you placed your hand in the oven and kept it there in spite of the burning you would receive.  Microwave energy is not the same thing as ionizing nuclear radiation and does not carry a cancer hazard. 
 
Ikea has one for a good amount less.

 
@Reply #12: Re-read what I wrote. I specifically stated turn table and fan operating with the door open and never included the word magnetron in my sequential list yet took it upon your self to say I had said microwaves continue microwaving with the door open. You then you re-vindicate reply #7 by saying:

"Yes, there some models where the fan or turn table, continues to operate after the door opens, when a door switch fails but they are not microwaving"

To which I'm going to say, yes, certain models run their turn table and fan with the door open when the primary interlock switch (one of 3 switches) fails as I originally said in reply #7. Nothing to do with RF coming out of the oven.

The thing is, people don't now that. They see a running light, running turn table, and can hear a fan so they have no idea what is happening and often no one else has a clue outside of those who fix/sell appliances.

Read my posts word for word instead of skimming them...
 
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@john: When you accuse me of making claims I never made, it causes others to believe I actually made them.

There are several users on this forum that have my posts in their "ignore" list due to an inability to think in grayscale.

As a result they don't see replies #6 and #7 but do see reply #12. They are lead to believe I said the following, which I never did:

1) microwaves are emitting RF energy with the door open

2) I don't understand how interlocks works, or that microwaves have at least 3 of them.

3) That microwave ovens are unsafe.

4) That I make up information.

This causes escalating dislike toward me which only grows with each post. I also have to see people re-posting facts (like I never made them) in agreement toward you, which is triggering to be frank. In reply #1 I showed that microwaves have at least 3 interlocking switches (primary, secondary and monitor) only to have people seeing your post thinking I was unaware of the fact it is physically impossible for the magnetron to operate with the door open.

Please keep this mind assuming you already haven't. Its not fair on me. I don't want people to dislike me without reason.
 

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