Samsung 240 volt Vented Combo!

[maytag85]

Reply #19

The ship sailed when Whirlpool discontinued the direct drives, even before they discontinued the direct drives since they had that stupid low water rinse which did a number on the motor coupler and transmission for sure, possibly the motor.

All Whirlpool employees, engineers, management, CEO need a good scolding to put them in their place. They’ve screwed over enough people already, committed fraud as well.

Don’t care how “good Whirlpool is”, they haven’t made anything with an ounce of quality for over 10 years. Anyone who defends Whirlpool is essentially polishing a turd.

 

[agiflow]

I'll defend Whirlpool since they're still the last U.S. full line manufacturer of home appliances.

They've done a lot of things wrong, but I will still defend them because they ARE THE LAST FULL LINE U.S. APPLIANCE MAKER!

Only one machine that I bought in all the years I've been buying Whirlpool products that gave me a bad time. Just 1.

LG is not a U.S. company and neither is Samsung, Yet now all of a sudden they come at the tops of the ratings in consumer reports ? Why ? What did they really innovate ? Spray rinsing in their front loaders ? A mini washer under/over the main washer ?

As far as LG build quality being better than Whirlpool that's a laugh. The dryer bulkheads in Samsung and LG are thinner and more flexible than what Whirlpool uses.

Even Whirlpools front load wash tub, the SS feels more substantial.

Whirlpool gets a lot of hate these days but maybe people should write into them about their concerns. I for one will stick with them through thick and thin.

You don't abandon your team just because they're having a bad season.

 

[Chetlaham]

Sean, I remember those energy star direct drives. The machines would literally fill just a few holes above the bottom of the wash basket and then proceed to agitate on high. The greatest damage was done to people's clothing. Whirlpool could have simply added a few spray rinses where the rinse increments would be with the cycle labelled as normal eco "do not use fabric softener" just as Speed Queen did. Nobody would have noticed. Whirlpool has access to timers that can perform an identical sub-interval sequence across several increments low cost. Instead they choose the more expensive, complex method of stretching and tearing customer clothing while leaving detergent all over them. Its like these companies are wittingly trying to get a rise out of people just so they'll blindly accept FL washers.

 

 

 



 

Whirlpool officially came to and when they ceased production of their direct drives. 

 

 

 

Whirlpool should have not discontinued the direct drives. It was the end of an era, the last good yet economical top-loader ever produced stripped from the market. Everybody loved their DDs. They should and could have re-tooled keeping the DD lineup in production for another 30 years. With cool washing and spray rinsing energy regulations would have been satisfied as well. Taking away DDs left consumers with either buying short lived failure prone junk or having to spend near $1,500 on a Speed Queen that does the exact same thing as direct drive does that costs half as much to build. There are no longer any middle of the road, level headed, common sense offerings. Consumers only have extremes to choose from. 

 

 

 

[gelaundry4ever]

energy star direct drives

I didn't like them. The ones I used on the dorms were Maytag Commercial Laundry. The water level at so-called large load size was looking more like a medium water level. That was so stupid! I was either forced to do smaller loads or go to the laundromat. On top of that, they never did a spray rinse. This is so stupid! Pat, I feel your pain.

 

[panasonicvac]

I used to really like Whirlpool, nowadays not so much. I feel like it's just another company that doesn't make them like the used to anymore. Even the Maytag Commercial top loader that despite they've added a water selector knob unlike it's predecessor, apparently I've discovered online they have even more problems with the water levels. In addition my brother's Maytag top loader bit the dust and it wasn't even five years old. My LG washer is still going and it's older than my brother's Maytag. My point though that just because Whirlpool may be assembled here doesn't mean I'd buy one today if my Korean made LG cleans better and/or lasts longer, in fact the best washer I've used before wasn't made here. And as much as I love my Whirlpool built KitchenAid dishwasher and would love to get another KitchenAid, I still have my eyes on Bosch because that's what my appliance technician recommended. In fact that's how I got my LG washer in the first place was because of him. Whatever is the best regardless where it's made at, that's what I'd want to have. Now as for Whirlpool being the last full US manufacturer today, I'd say only 80% of that is true. If you're not counting the commercial models, all of the consumer microwaves are being made elsewhere. And when they were back to selling central vacs, they were also made elsewhere.

 

[Unimatic1140]

Best Buy now has the Samsung vented 220 volt combo on it's showroom floor. I'll be interested to see if vented combos become the most popular over the next few years. I'm considering replacing my 18 year old LG with this sometime soon.

 

[maytag85]

Vented is the way to go if you want reliability and quick drying times.

 

[Unimatic1140]

Vented is the way to go if you want reliability and quick drying times.

Quicker drying times is a given, reliability however is questionable. Although for me this will be a low use machine, however I will probably use the dryer more often I suspect.

 

[vacerator]

Not my cup of tea. My sister in law has a GE Profile. 2 years old. Motor died 2 months ago. Figures because it does double duty. I don't know if it's vented,

 

[maytag85]

Quicker drying times is a given, reliability however is questionable. Although for me this will be a low use machine, however I will probably use the dryer more often I suspect.

Reliability may be questionable with newer Samsung units, but definitely quicker drying times.

Heat pump may be more efficient, but will need a tear down to keep the evaporator coil clean. Though a good majority of us here in the club are mechanically savvy, heat pump dryers are a royal pain to clean and service compare to a traditionally vented dryer.

 

[me]

 

[foraloysius]

Combo’s with condensation or heat pump drying are more flexible. They don’t need to be installed near an outside wall. They even can be used in a laundry room in the center of a house or apartment.

If a dryer is self cleaning it’s not necessary to take apart the machine for cleaning.

 

[me]

Heat pump dryers are supposed to be gentler on clothes, even allowing for the extra drying time, because of the lower drying temperature. With no heater, they are also much less of a fire risk. There have been quite a number of vented and condenser dryer fires in the UK in recent years, a large proportion were about 11 years of production of hotpoint / indesits models that have since been recalled.

I've seen a few videos of UK heat pump dryers being stripped down and cleaned, including self cleaning ones that have clogged up. The ones with both self cleaning and a washable foam filter in front of the heat pump's evaporator to keep the bulk of the lint out, appear to be the best.

 

[henene4]

There's no such thing as a heat pump dryer with both filters and self cleaning - at least not in the EU.



And again: If you don't take care of your stuff, it will clog up.
It's not like it's a law of physics every heat pump dryer - regardless of self cleaning or filters - will clogg up. Have used literally 20 year old heat pump dryers that were just not well looked after that still dried fine.
But if you don't clean the filters, fluff will find a way around them.

It's not like every spec of residue immediately causes drying times to double either.
Any obstruction in airflow will slightly increase drying times - but the air ways in the combos are SO FAR from optimal that unless you actually have a decent chunk of frontal area blocked off, having a pair of pants more in a load will make a much bigger difference than washing the filter after every load instead of just wiping it (for example).


It's really amazing how sometimes history repeats it self:
People on here were SO convinced all manual clean filter DWs would always stink, clogg up, never clean properly.
And SOMEHOW that never came true - unless you asked the impossible and want to have 0 residue after decades of usage OR you just used your DW as a garbage disposal.

Most people don't exist on the extremes and are perfectly happy with "fine" - and both HP and vented combos will perform fine for most people.

 

[phillymatt53]

Whirlpool; “ because they try to maintain their top notch status for reliability in the laundry industry.”

Hah. I think that ship has sailed in the post-Covid years.
WP reliability is slipping a lately.

The decades-old reputation of all products by Samsung have pretty much cemented themselves as being unreliable, costly, and dangerous.

Their TV sets, even the ones back in the 1990's with the CRT/picture tubes were a regular visitor in my tv repair shop right up to the flatscreen models.
The high voltage flyback transformers in those sets often started smoking to the point that they burned up before blowing the set's main fuse.
Many times I've tried to place an order to my parts distributor for those flybacks and their associated failed parts, I was told that they were "out of stock" due to so many already ordered by other shops. - Duh!
The flat screen models also conked out after warranty with bad electrolytic capacitors and poor chassis (cost cutting) design.
And dealing with their service and tech support was always a major hassle.

That's where all of us repair shops coined the endearing name of that company, "Samsuck".

 

[phillymatt53]

I'll defend Whirlpool since they're still the last U.S. full line manufacturer of home appliances.
They've done a lot of things wrong, but I will still defend them because they ARE THE LAST FULL LINE U.S. APPLIANCE MAKER!

All well and fine Pat, but consider this...
Even if they're U.S. based, are all the parts actually made in the U.S.?
That can be a "weak spot" for troubles to rear their ugly heads.